OMFG - Workplace Harassment Training...
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Somebody
shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesI feel your pain. We had the same thing here at work about 2 weeks ago. By the end of the session I was left thinking that, other than mumbling "Yes" or "No", just don't talk to anyone at work. It's simpler.
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Somebody
shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesAbout touching...
Before you touch someone, ask yourself:
Is it possible that someone might see the physical contact and be offended?What?
**_SEE_** THE PHYSICAL CONTACT AND BE OFFENDED?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!Just observe it and be offended?! I need to get off this human race train...! :) [edit] I shudder to think what could happen if my wife and kids visit and I happen giving them a hug or, God Forbid, give my wife a kiss, and BE SEEN DOING IT!!! Peace!-=- James
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Yorkshire? That's practically Scotland! I live well south of the Watford Gap!
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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About touching...
Before you touch someone, ask yourself:
Is it possible that someone might see the physical contact and be offended?What?
**_SEE_** THE PHYSICAL CONTACT AND BE OFFENDED?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!Just observe it and be offended?! I need to get off this human race train...! :) [edit] I shudder to think what could happen if my wife and kids visit and I happen giving them a hug or, God Forbid, give my wife a kiss, and BE SEEN DOING IT!!! Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesFlipside, someone offers their hand for a shake, I refuse, is that offensive? So therefore it is offensive to both touch and not touch? What we need to do is kill the pc brigade and go back to people being grown up. I demand the right to be offensive!
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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I live in Aylesbury these days, any further south and my extended (northern) family will probably beat me :laugh:
He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man
Eh yup. Thar Phannon as become yon southern bastard! :laugh:
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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Flipside, someone offers their hand for a shake, I refuse, is that offensive? So therefore it is offensive to both touch and not touch? What we need to do is kill the pc brigade and go back to people being grown up. I demand the right to be offensive!
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
Shake someone's hand? But you don't know where it's been... :laugh:
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Mimicking a foreign accent in a derogatory manner could
contribute to a hostile work environment based on national
origin.OK... Is there a way to mimic an accent in a non-derogatory manner? Peace!
-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesJames R. Twine wrote:
OK... Is there a way to mimic an accent in a non-derogatory manner?
Yes, in a humorous way.
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Shake someone's hand? But you don't know where it's been... :laugh:
Conversely, they don't know the things I do with mine! :-D
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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Somebody
shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesIt's all complete bollocks: people are not easily offended: they're easily driven to a lawsuit.
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Somebody
shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesWell, since you opened the door and invited comments, here are mine. You are paid to work, not tell jokes that may offend people. What you find mild and humourous may very well be offensive to other people. If you don't like the environment - leave. Tim
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Eh yup. Thar Phannon as become yon southern bastard! :laugh:
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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Somebody
shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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Can't find a good chippy down 'ere, <peterKay>Has thy nowt moist?!</peterKay>
He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man
I presume you mean Food, not Carpenter! :)
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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Well, since you opened the door and invited comments, here are mine. You are paid to work, not tell jokes that may offend people. What you find mild and humourous may very well be offensive to other people. If you don't like the environment - leave. Tim
Tim Carmichael wrote:
If you don't like the environment - leave.
Exactly! Do not complain, or bring suit. Keep it to yourself, and get out. Peace!
-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFiles -
I presume you mean Food, not Carpenter! :)
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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Indeed, I have no use for either a moist carpenter or his soggy wood.
He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man
Phannon wrote:
soggy wood
Euphemism?
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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Phannon wrote:
soggy wood
Euphemism?
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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Somebody
shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesJames R. Twine wrote:
Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it
If they'd at least tell their concerns right there! Complaining anonymously at a higher-up office that cannot ignore the request is completely antisocial. We need that mechanism for serious cases, guys! That's like calling 911 because your milk went bad.
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Mimicking a foreign accent in a derogatory manner could
contribute to a hostile work environment based on national
origin.OK... Is there a way to mimic an accent in a non-derogatory manner? Peace!
-=- James
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Somebody
shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesI recall one occurrence about 30 years ago at a major oil company where I worked. One week, everyday at lunch hour, a beautiful blond girl walked into an older engineer's office, closed the door and muffled laughter was heard for the next hour. At the end of the week, the engineer was called into a supervisor's office and severely reprimanded -- apparently the secretaries where offended by the goings-on. The older gentleman explained that the beautiful blond was his daughter, who happened to be in town for the week attending a conference down the street and they decided to visit over lunch, which his wife prepared and sent along. On another occasion, when my wife was traveling, I took all of my daughters and step-daughters and grand-daughters out to lunch one day. While in the restaurant, a woman who knew my wife was traveling saw me with 5 gorgeous women and complained that I was a lecherous old man, blah, blah. My "ladies" all played along and told her they didn't know I was married. I thought it was absolutely hilarious and suggested the the woman take a picture to show my wife when she returned.
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