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  • J James R Twine

    About touching...

    Before you touch someone, ask yourself:
    Is it possible that someone might see the physical contact and be offended?

    What? **_SEE_** THE PHYSICAL CONTACT AND BE OFFENDED?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!  Just observe it and be offended?!    I need to get off this human race train...! :) [edit]    I shudder to think what could happen if my wife and kids visit and I happen giving them a hug or, God Forbid, give my wife a kiss, and BE SEEN DOING IT!!!    Peace!

    -=- James
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    Dalek Dave
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    Flipside, someone offers their hand for a shake, I refuse, is that offensive? So therefore it is offensive to both touch and not touch? What we need to do is kill the pc brigade and go back to people being grown up. I demand the right to be offensive!

    ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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      I live in Aylesbury these days, any further south and my extended (northern) family will probably beat me :laugh:

      He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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      Dalek Dave
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      Eh yup. Thar Phannon as become yon southern bastard! :laugh:

      ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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        Flipside, someone offers their hand for a shake, I refuse, is that offensive? So therefore it is offensive to both touch and not touch? What we need to do is kill the pc brigade and go back to people being grown up. I demand the right to be offensive!

        ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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        R Giskard Reventlov
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        Shake someone's hand? But you don't know where it's been... :laugh:

        me, me, me

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        • J James R Twine

          Mimicking a foreign accent in a derogatory manner could
          contribute to a hostile work environment based on national
          origin.

          OK...  Is there a way to mimic an accent in a non-derogatory manner?    Peace!

          -=- James
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          Brady Kelly
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          James R. Twine wrote:

          OK... Is there a way to mimic an accent in a non-derogatory manner?

          Yes, in a humorous way.

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            Shake someone's hand? But you don't know where it's been... :laugh:

            me, me, me

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            Dalek Dave
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            Conversely, they don't know the things I do with mine! :-D

            ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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            • J James R Twine

              Somebody shoot me...    I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :)    One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy.  Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended?  Nope, that would be FAR too easy.  Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it.    Hey!  Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :)    Heh...  I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff.  I really do.    Ahhh...  I feel better now...    Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff?  Or is it just me?    Peace!

              -=- James
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              Remember that Professional Driver on Closed Course does not mean your Dumb Ass on a Public Road!
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              R Giskard Reventlov
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              It's all complete bollocks: people are not easily offended: they're easily driven to a lawsuit.

              me, me, me

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              • J James R Twine

                Somebody shoot me...    I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :)    One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy.  Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended?  Nope, that would be FAR too easy.  Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it.    Hey!  Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :)    Heh...  I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff.  I really do.    Ahhh...  I feel better now...    Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff?  Or is it just me?    Peace!

                -=- James
                Please rate this message - let me know if I helped or not! * * * If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you find out how much it costs to do it wrong!
                Remember that Professional Driver on Closed Course does not mean your Dumb Ass on a Public Road!
                See DeleteFXPFiles

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                Tim Carmichael
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                Well, since you opened the door and invited comments, here are mine. You are paid to work, not tell jokes that may offend people. What you find mild and humourous may very well be offensive to other people. If you don't like the environment - leave. Tim

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                  Eh yup. Thar Phannon as become yon southern bastard! :laugh:

                  ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                  phannon86
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                  Can't find a good chippy down 'ere, <peterKay>Has thy nowt moist?!</peterKay>

                  He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                  • J James R Twine

                    Somebody shoot me...    I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :)    One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy.  Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended?  Nope, that would be FAR too easy.  Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it.    Hey!  Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :)    Heh...  I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff.  I really do.    Ahhh...  I feel better now...    Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff?  Or is it just me?    Peace!

                    -=- James
                    Please rate this message - let me know if I helped or not! * * * If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you find out how much it costs to do it wrong!
                    Remember that Professional Driver on Closed Course does not mean your Dumb Ass on a Public Road!
                    See DeleteFXPFiles

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                    BadKarma
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                    To see where the PC train is taking us, you might want to read an essay by Douglas Hofstadter A Person Paper on Purity in Language [^].

                    Learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself.

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                      Can't find a good chippy down 'ere, <peterKay>Has thy nowt moist?!</peterKay>

                      He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      I presume you mean Food, not Carpenter! :)

                      ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                      • T Tim Carmichael

                        Well, since you opened the door and invited comments, here are mine. You are paid to work, not tell jokes that may offend people. What you find mild and humourous may very well be offensive to other people. If you don't like the environment - leave. Tim

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                        James R Twine
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                        Tim Carmichael wrote:

                        If you don't like the environment - leave.

                        Exactly!  Do not complain, or bring suit.  Keep it to yourself, and get out.    Peace!

                        -=- James
                        Please rate this message - let me know if I helped or not! * * * If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you find out how much it costs to do it wrong!
                        Remember that Professional Driver on Closed Course does not mean your Dumb Ass on a Public Road!
                        See DeleteFXPFiles

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          I presume you mean Food, not Carpenter! :)

                          ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                          phannon86
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                          Indeed, I have no use for either a moist carpenter or his soggy wood.

                          He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                            Indeed, I have no use for either a moist carpenter or his soggy wood.

                            He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                            Dalek Dave
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                            Phannon wrote:

                            soggy wood

                            Euphemism?

                            ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                              Phannon wrote:

                              soggy wood

                              Euphemism?

                              ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                              phannon86
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                              I had no intention for it to sound that way, although I realised what I had typed pretty quickly. I left it in for the comedy value :)

                              He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                                Somebody shoot me...    I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :)    One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy.  Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended?  Nope, that would be FAR too easy.  Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it.    Hey!  Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :)    Heh...  I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff.  I really do.    Ahhh...  I feel better now...    Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff?  Or is it just me?    Peace!

                                -=- James
                                Please rate this message - let me know if I helped or not! * * * If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you find out how much it costs to do it wrong!
                                Remember that Professional Driver on Closed Course does not mean your Dumb Ass on a Public Road!
                                See DeleteFXPFiles

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                                peterchen
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                                James R. Twine wrote:

                                Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it

                                If they'd at least tell their concerns right there! Complaining anonymously at a higher-up office that cannot ignore the request is completely antisocial. We need that mechanism for serious cases, guys! That's like calling 911 because your milk went bad.

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                                • J James R Twine

                                  Mimicking a foreign accent in a derogatory manner could
                                  contribute to a hostile work environment based on national
                                  origin.

                                  OK...  Is there a way to mimic an accent in a non-derogatory manner?    Peace!

                                  -=- James
                                  Please rate this message - let me know if I helped or not! * * * If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you find out how much it costs to do it wrong!
                                  Remember that Professional Driver on Closed Course does not mean your Dumb Ass on a Public Road!
                                  See DeleteFXPFiles

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                                  Oakman
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                                  James R. Twine wrote:

                                  Is there a way to mimic an accent in a non-derogatory manner?

                                  Of course. Actors do it all the time.

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                  • J James R Twine

                                    Somebody shoot me...    I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :)    One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy.  Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended?  Nope, that would be FAR too easy.  Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it.    Hey!  Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :)    Heh...  I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff.  I really do.    Ahhh...  I feel better now...    Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff?  Or is it just me?    Peace!

                                    -=- James
                                    Please rate this message - let me know if I helped or not! * * * If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you find out how much it costs to do it wrong!
                                    Remember that Professional Driver on Closed Course does not mean your Dumb Ass on a Public Road!
                                    See DeleteFXPFiles

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                                    Dr Walt Fair PE
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                                    I recall one occurrence about 30 years ago at a major oil company where I worked. One week, everyday at lunch hour, a beautiful blond girl walked into an older engineer's office, closed the door and muffled laughter was heard for the next hour. At the end of the week, the engineer was called into a supervisor's office and severely reprimanded -- apparently the secretaries where offended by the goings-on. The older gentleman explained that the beautiful blond was his daughter, who happened to be in town for the week attending a conference down the street and they decided to visit over lunch, which his wife prepared and sent along. On another occasion, when my wife was traveling, I took all of my daughters and step-daughters and grand-daughters out to lunch one day. While in the restaurant, a woman who knew my wife was traveling saw me with 5 gorgeous women and complained that I was a lecherous old man, blah, blah. My "ladies" all played along and told her they didn't know I was married. I thought it was absolutely hilarious and suggested the the woman take a picture to show my wife when she returned.

                                    The PetroNerd

                                    Walt Fair, Jr. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                                    • J James R Twine

                                      Somebody shoot me...    I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :)    One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy.  Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended?  Nope, that would be FAR too easy.  Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it.    Hey!  Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :)    Heh...  I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff.  I really do.    Ahhh...  I feel better now...    Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff?  Or is it just me?    Peace!

                                      -=- James
                                      Please rate this message - let me know if I helped or not! * * * If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you find out how much it costs to do it wrong!
                                      Remember that Professional Driver on Closed Course does not mean your Dumb Ass on a Public Road!
                                      See DeleteFXPFiles

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                                      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                      Hire John Simmons for 2 hours and let him teach the course, if you have Indians and French that will do it.

                                      Proud to be a CPHog user

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                                      • X Xiangyang Liu

                                        An employee in my company broke her leg in her honeymoon. The manager said "they must had a lot of fun" to another employee. A third employee over-heard it and reported to HR. The manager was fired.

                                        My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page My Younger Son & His "PET"

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                                        Single Step Debugger
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                                        WTF?!? I'm shocked! Where you working? In concentration camp?!?

                                        The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                          WTF?!? I'm shocked! Where you working? In concentration camp?!?

                                          The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                                          Vincent Curry
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                                          To be honest, being fired from a concentration camp wouldn't be that bad... (hmmmmm... am wondering if this message is PC...)

                                          Vincent www.pub-olympics.com

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