OMFG - Workplace Harassment Training...
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Well, since you opened the door and invited comments, here are mine. You are paid to work, not tell jokes that may offend people. What you find mild and humourous may very well be offensive to other people. If you don't like the environment - leave. Tim
Tim Carmichael wrote:
If you don't like the environment - leave.
Exactly! Do not complain, or bring suit. Keep it to yourself, and get out. Peace!
-=- James
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I presume you mean Food, not Carpenter! :)
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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Indeed, I have no use for either a moist carpenter or his soggy wood.
He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man
Phannon wrote:
soggy wood
Euphemism?
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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Phannon wrote:
soggy wood
Euphemism?
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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Somebody
shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesJames R. Twine wrote:
Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it
If they'd at least tell their concerns right there! Complaining anonymously at a higher-up office that cannot ignore the request is completely antisocial. We need that mechanism for serious cases, guys! That's like calling 911 because your milk went bad.
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Mimicking a foreign accent in a derogatory manner could
contribute to a hostile work environment based on national
origin.OK... Is there a way to mimic an accent in a non-derogatory manner? Peace!
-=- James
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Somebody
shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesI recall one occurrence about 30 years ago at a major oil company where I worked. One week, everyday at lunch hour, a beautiful blond girl walked into an older engineer's office, closed the door and muffled laughter was heard for the next hour. At the end of the week, the engineer was called into a supervisor's office and severely reprimanded -- apparently the secretaries where offended by the goings-on. The older gentleman explained that the beautiful blond was his daughter, who happened to be in town for the week attending a conference down the street and they decided to visit over lunch, which his wife prepared and sent along. On another occasion, when my wife was traveling, I took all of my daughters and step-daughters and grand-daughters out to lunch one day. While in the restaurant, a woman who knew my wife was traveling saw me with 5 gorgeous women and complained that I was a lecherous old man, blah, blah. My "ladies" all played along and told her they didn't know I was married. I thought it was absolutely hilarious and suggested the the woman take a picture to show my wife when she returned.
The PetroNerd
Walt Fair, Jr. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Somebody
shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesHire John Simmons for 2 hours and let him teach the course, if you have Indians and French that will do it.
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An employee in my company broke her leg in her honeymoon. The manager said "they must had a lot of fun" to another employee. A third employee over-heard it and reported to HR. The manager was fired.
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WTF?!? I'm shocked! Where you working? In concentration camp?!?
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WTF?!? I'm shocked! Where you working? In concentration camp?!?
The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.
To be honest, being fired from a concentration camp wouldn't be that bad... (hmmmmm... am wondering if this message is PC...)
Vincent www.pub-olympics.com
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To be honest, being fired from a concentration camp wouldn't be that bad... (hmmmmm... am wondering if this message is PC...)
Vincent www.pub-olympics.com
Hey, My grandfather died in a concentration camp! It's not funny! He fell from his machine gun tower! :)
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
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Hey, My grandfather died in a concentration camp! It's not funny! He fell from his machine gun tower! :)
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Mine manage to escape from one...through the chimney, though.
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I recall one occurrence about 30 years ago at a major oil company where I worked. One week, everyday at lunch hour, a beautiful blond girl walked into an older engineer's office, closed the door and muffled laughter was heard for the next hour. At the end of the week, the engineer was called into a supervisor's office and severely reprimanded -- apparently the secretaries where offended by the goings-on. The older gentleman explained that the beautiful blond was his daughter, who happened to be in town for the week attending a conference down the street and they decided to visit over lunch, which his wife prepared and sent along. On another occasion, when my wife was traveling, I took all of my daughters and step-daughters and grand-daughters out to lunch one day. While in the restaurant, a woman who knew my wife was traveling saw me with 5 gorgeous women and complained that I was a lecherous old man, blah, blah. My "ladies" all played along and told her they didn't know I was married. I thought it was absolutely hilarious and suggested the the woman take a picture to show my wife when she returned.
The PetroNerd
Walt Fair, Jr. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
She knew your wife, but didn't know you had daughters, etc. I doubt she'll learn her lesson.
Cheetah. Ferret. Gonads. What more can I say? - Pete O'Hanlon
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Tim Carmichael wrote:
If you don't like the environment - leave.
Exactly! Do not complain, or bring suit. Keep it to yourself, and get out. Peace!
-=- James
Please rate this message - let me know if I helped or not! * * *If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you find out how much it costs to do it wrong!
Remember that Professional Driver on Closed Course does not mean your Dumb Ass on a Public Road!
See DeleteFXPFilesJames R. Twine wrote:
Tim Carmichael wrote: If you don't like the environment - leave. Exactly! Do not complain, or bring suit. Keep it to yourself, and get out.
This concept could totally change the face of smoking in the workplace. Don't like the smoke, keep it to yourself and get out!
Cheetah. Ferret. Gonads. What more can I say? - Pete O'Hanlon
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I recall one occurrence about 30 years ago at a major oil company where I worked. One week, everyday at lunch hour, a beautiful blond girl walked into an older engineer's office, closed the door and muffled laughter was heard for the next hour. At the end of the week, the engineer was called into a supervisor's office and severely reprimanded -- apparently the secretaries where offended by the goings-on. The older gentleman explained that the beautiful blond was his daughter, who happened to be in town for the week attending a conference down the street and they decided to visit over lunch, which his wife prepared and sent along. On another occasion, when my wife was traveling, I took all of my daughters and step-daughters and grand-daughters out to lunch one day. While in the restaurant, a woman who knew my wife was traveling saw me with 5 gorgeous women and complained that I was a lecherous old man, blah, blah. My "ladies" all played along and told her they didn't know I was married. I thought it was absolutely hilarious and suggested the the woman take a picture to show my wife when she returned.
The PetroNerd
Walt Fair, Jr. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
Walt Fair, Jr. wrote:
I recall one occurrence about 30 years ago at a major oil company where I worked. One week, everyday at lunch hour, a beautiful blond girl walked into an older engineer's office, closed the door and muffled laughter was heard for the next hour. At the end of the week, the engineer was called into a supervisor's office and severely reprimanded -- apparently the secretaries where offended by the goings-on. The older gentleman explained that the beautiful blond was his daughter, who happened to be in town for the week attending a conference down the street and they decided to visit over lunch, which his wife prepared and sent along.
That is the biggest problem I have with this whole "offended" crap. It does not have to have any basis in reality or common sense. These secretaries were offended about something that was not even happening! They should have been offended about being too damn shallow to come up with a better reason and decided to keep it to themselves. Or maybe even think that if someone was going to be engaging in any fooling-around, they would not be doing it in their office at lunchtime! Peace!
-=- James
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She knew your wife, but didn't know you had daughters, etc. I doubt she'll learn her lesson.
Cheetah. Ferret. Gonads. What more can I say? - Pete O'Hanlon
Oh, she knew we had daughters, but they are all grown, so she had never met them. Any way, in my experience, people who worry about other people's lives and have time to spend getting offended , generally have other issues and rarely learn. I guess she figured our daughters were as ugly as me, not gorgeous like my wife .... :laugh:
The PetroNerd
Walt Fair, Jr. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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About touching...
Before you touch someone, ask yourself:
Is it possible that someone might see the physical contact and be offended?What?
**_SEE_** THE PHYSICAL CONTACT AND BE OFFENDED?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!Just observe it and be offended?! I need to get off this human race train...! :) [edit] I shudder to think what could happen if my wife and kids visit and I happen giving them a hug or, God Forbid, give my wife a kiss, and BE SEEN DOING IT!!! Peace!-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesI guess shaking hands is going out the door...
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Somebody
shootme... I would love to meet the people that come up with the material for these training courses, and spend 2 hours with them to show them what real harassment is all about. :) One of my favorites - someone starts telling a joke, and from the opener you can tell that it could be racy. Does the overly-sensitive employee leave the group knowing their limitations and that they might get offended? Nope, that would be FAR too easy. Instead, they do the logical thing, of course -- they hang around, listen to the entire joke, laugh with everyone else, and then run to HR to complain about it. Hey! Here is a simple concept - how about sneaker-netting yourself out of the room next time and save everyone else the trouble? :) Heh... I love this Politically Correct, everyone's-feelings-matter-except-the-one-telling-the-joke stuff. I really do. Ahhh... I feel better now... Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff? Or is it just me? Peace!-=- James
Please rate this message - let me know if I helped or not! * * *If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you find out how much it costs to do it wrong!
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James R. Twine wrote:
I deeply offended and am going to report you
What for a bad sense of humour? Where would we be without humour? Answer: Germany! :-D
------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop
You are on The List now. :suss:
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James R. Twine wrote:
Anyone else feel the same about all this PC stuff?
Yup, I agree....But unfortunately, I can't really say what I really think here in case I offend someone. Best saved for the soap box. What's the difference between women and....oh no...hang on.....women won't like that....what's the biggest cause of.....oh.....not that one either....An English man, an.....nope, racist...A dyslexic man walks into....Dammit all the best jokes are offensive.
Simon
Use a otherwise nondescript white male, they cannot be offended.
