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  • P Perspx

    Is this a comment relating to the discussion on sarcasm icons we were having earlier, Paul? If so, they really need to be made into a reality :-O Regards, --Perspx

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    Paul Conrad
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    Nope. Not a joke or sarcasm comment. Just curious as to which direction with math you are going to go next.

    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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      Good job. I think you should quit while you're ahead. Nothing beyond Algebra has any practical use unless you want to be an engineer or something. BTW, did you join the Math Debate Team? Nothing like hanging out together and Mathdebating ... LOL.

      I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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      Well in the UK most Universities require that you take maths A-level to do an IT-related course, unless it's applied IT or a more essay-based subject, such as business and IT.

      ToddHileHoffer wrote:

      BTW, did you join the Math Debate Team?

      Of course :-\ there's nothing like doing some maths debating on a Friday night.. :rolleyes: Regards, --Perspx

      "I've got my kids brainwashed: You don't use Google, and you don't use an iPod." - Steve Ballmer
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      • P Paul Conrad

        Nope. Not a joke or sarcasm comment. Just curious as to which direction with math you are going to go next.

        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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        Ah, I see. Well the A-level course is predominantly algebra-based, I believe. I'm mainly doing maths as it's a prerequisite for most university courses in IT here in the UK. Regards, --Perspx

        "I've got my kids brainwashed: You don't use Google, and you don't use an iPod." - Steve Ballmer
        "Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph." - Linus Torvalds

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        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

          Algebra was easy, glad you did well though.

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          Thanks :) Yes I found that after clearing up several discrepancies I had which were holding me back a bit. Regards, --Perspx

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          • P Perspx

            As some of you may remember I posted here a few months ago to ask for advice on whether or not to use caffeine before an important exam I was going to take; after your feedback I decided not to use caffeine but instead get a couple of weeks of good sleep. It proved to be fruitful and I passed with 96%, getting me where I wanted to be :) In short, thanks for the advice from all that contributed :) Regards, --Perspx

            "I've got my kids brainwashed: You don't use Google, and you don't use an iPod." - Steve Ballmer
            "Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph." - Linus Torvalds

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            Brady Kelly
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            Crystal Meth: you wouldn't have needed the few weeks sleep. :suss: A little caffeine just before the exam can be good. One Red Bull.

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            • P Perspx

              Ah, I see. Well the A-level course is predominantly algebra-based, I believe. I'm mainly doing maths as it's a prerequisite for most university courses in IT here in the UK. Regards, --Perspx

              "I've got my kids brainwashed: You don't use Google, and you don't use an iPod." - Steve Ballmer
              "Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph." - Linus Torvalds

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              Perspx wrote:

              maths as it's a prerequisite for most university courses in IT here in the UK.

              What about fun stuff like Calculus? The first college I went to had pre-calculus/trigonometry as the requirement for any of their Computer Science courses. Calculus is actually pretty straightforward and easy in my opinion, once you have the Algebra out of the way.

              "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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              • P Paul Conrad

                Nope. Not a joke or sarcasm comment. Just curious as to which direction with math you are going to go next.

                "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                Paul Conrad wrote:

                which direction with math you are going to go next.

                Does 'away' count as an abstract direction? :rolleyes:

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                  Perspx wrote:

                  maths as it's a prerequisite for most university courses in IT here in the UK.

                  What about fun stuff like Calculus? The first college I went to had pre-calculus/trigonometry as the requirement for any of their Computer Science courses. Calculus is actually pretty straightforward and easy in my opinion, once you have the Algebra out of the way.

                  "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                  Paul Conrad wrote:

                  Calculus is actually pretty straightforward and easy in my opinion, once you have the Algebra out of the way.

                  And the damned integration. :laugh:

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                    Perspx wrote:

                    maths as it's a prerequisite for most university courses in IT here in the UK.

                    What about fun stuff like Calculus? The first college I went to had pre-calculus/trigonometry as the requirement for any of their Computer Science courses. Calculus is actually pretty straightforward and easy in my opinion, once you have the Algebra out of the way.

                    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                    Perspx
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                    Well the universities provide prerequisites for applications - usually the minimum grades are AAA or AAB at A-level, and also you usually need to have an A-level in maths; A-levels in physics and further maths are also seen to help your entry, too. Regards, --Perspx

                    "I've got my kids brainwashed: You don't use Google, and you don't use an iPod." - Steve Ballmer
                    "Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph." - Linus Torvalds

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                    • B Brady Kelly

                      Paul Conrad wrote:

                      Calculus is actually pretty straightforward and easy in my opinion, once you have the Algebra out of the way.

                      And the damned integration. :laugh:

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                      Brady Kelly wrote:

                      the damned integration

                      Yep. Especially integration by trigonometric substitution. The guy who taught the class I was in, had a real tendency to obscure the problems on the test by multiplying things by factors, making us have to factor terms out just to get to the real problem.

                      "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                      • P Perspx

                        Well the universities provide prerequisites for applications - usually the minimum grades are AAA or AAB at A-level, and also you usually need to have an A-level in maths; A-levels in physics and further maths are also seen to help your entry, too. Regards, --Perspx

                        "I've got my kids brainwashed: You don't use Google, and you don't use an iPod." - Steve Ballmer
                        "Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph." - Linus Torvalds

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                        Perspx wrote:

                        physics and further maths are also seen to help

                        When you get into physics, an introduction to PDEs ( partial differential equations) is helpful for dealing with Maxwell's equations. I did not have a formal background with PDEs and the physics teacher I had, did a good job at explaining how to work with PDEs to a bunch of us non math majors.

                        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                        • B Brady Kelly

                          Paul Conrad wrote:

                          Calculus is actually pretty straightforward and easy in my opinion, once you have the Algebra out of the way.

                          And the damned integration. :laugh:

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                          integration was my real problem with calc. Differentiation was easy, basic integration likewise, but every explanation of how to do integration by parts was NP. :doh:

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                            integration was my real problem with calc. Differentiation was easy, basic integration likewise, but every explanation of how to do integration by parts was NP. :doh:

                            Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                            I agree that integration by parts was so-so back in the college days. Nowadays, I look back at it in my old calculus text, and it makes more sense. I wish it would have made more sense during the final exams :rolleyes:

                            "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                            • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                              Linear Algebra was the only math class I got a C in. The teacher was known as Dr. Death. Number Theory, Complex Analysis, and a few other more advanced ones became easier as time went on. It's too bad you stopped. Geometry was horrible as well.


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                              I got a D for Done in Calc III with Killer Cain at Tech. In retrospect, the class was not hard I was just not mature enough to deal with it. I would definitely take it over with him if I had the chance because I like his kind of Calculus.

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                              • P Paul Conrad

                                I agree that integration by parts was so-so back in the college days. Nowadays, I look back at it in my old calculus text, and it makes more sense. I wish it would have made more sense during the final exams :rolleyes:

                                "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                I've looked at mine and still say it's presented an NP problem and provides zero guidance on either proving P=NP, implementing a nondeterministic turing machine in my brain, or implementing a heuristic that produces correct results in common cases with polynomial time. 1 You look at a fugly integral. 2 You spit it into two functions which contain (typically fugly) integrals (this is an NP step) 3 If you can't solve the resulting integrals directly and the different terms don't cancel out the fugly parts repeat step 1 on one or more of the terms from step 2 (this is an NP step).

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                                  I've looked at mine and still say it's presented an NP problem and provides zero guidance on either proving P=NP, implementing a nondeterministic turing machine in my brain, or implementing a heuristic that produces correct results in common cases with polynomial time. 1 You look at a fugly integral. 2 You spit it into two functions which contain (typically fugly) integrals (this is an NP step) 3 If you can't solve the resulting integrals directly and the different terms don't cancel out the fugly parts repeat step 1 on one or more of the terms from step 2 (this is an NP step).

                                  Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                                  Yep. I recall my calculus teacher saying the trick is in splitting it up into something more manageable. He never really did give us any surefire way of figuring it out. I just figured maybe there was no real solid trick to deciding how to split.

                                  "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                  • P Perspx

                                    As some of you may remember I posted here a few months ago to ask for advice on whether or not to use caffeine before an important exam I was going to take; after your feedback I decided not to use caffeine but instead get a couple of weeks of good sleep. It proved to be fruitful and I passed with 96%, getting me where I wanted to be :) In short, thanks for the advice from all that contributed :) Regards, --Perspx

                                    "I've got my kids brainwashed: You don't use Google, and you don't use an iPod." - Steve Ballmer
                                    "Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph." - Linus Torvalds

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                                    go on then, say something in Algebra!

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                                      As some of you may remember I posted here a few months ago to ask for advice on whether or not to use caffeine before an important exam I was going to take; after your feedback I decided not to use caffeine but instead get a couple of weeks of good sleep. It proved to be fruitful and I passed with 96%, getting me where I wanted to be :) In short, thanks for the advice from all that contributed :) Regards, --Perspx

                                      "I've got my kids brainwashed: You don't use Google, and you don't use an iPod." - Steve Ballmer
                                      "Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph." - Linus Torvalds

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                                      96%! Don't you mean p = 96m / 100x (crap attempt at algebraic joke, I know - it's been a long time since I did any algebra1

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                                      • T ToddHileHoffer

                                        Good job. I think you should quit while you're ahead. Nothing beyond Algebra has any practical use unless you want to be an engineer or something. BTW, did you join the Math Debate Team? Nothing like hanging out together and Mathdebating ... LOL.

                                        I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                                        ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                                        othing like hanging out together and Mathdebating ...

                                        Was that an Abelian grope?

                                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                                          go on then, say something in Algebra!

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                                          e_i_π = -1

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