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  • B Brady Kelly

    Paul Conrad wrote:

    Calculus is actually pretty straightforward and easy in my opinion, once you have the Algebra out of the way.

    And the damned integration. :laugh:

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    Dan Neely
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    integration was my real problem with calc. Differentiation was easy, basic integration likewise, but every explanation of how to do integration by parts was NP. :doh:

    Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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    • D Dan Neely

      integration was my real problem with calc. Differentiation was easy, basic integration likewise, but every explanation of how to do integration by parts was NP. :doh:

      Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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      Paul Conrad
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      I agree that integration by parts was so-so back in the college days. Nowadays, I look back at it in my old calculus text, and it makes more sense. I wish it would have made more sense during the final exams :rolleyes:

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      • B Bassam Abdul Baki

        Linear Algebra was the only math class I got a C in. The teacher was known as Dr. Death. Number Theory, Complex Analysis, and a few other more advanced ones became easier as time went on. It's too bad you stopped. Geometry was horrible as well.


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        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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        I got a D for Done in Calc III with Killer Cain at Tech. In retrospect, the class was not hard I was just not mature enough to deal with it. I would definitely take it over with him if I had the chance because I like his kind of Calculus.

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        • P Paul Conrad

          I agree that integration by parts was so-so back in the college days. Nowadays, I look back at it in my old calculus text, and it makes more sense. I wish it would have made more sense during the final exams :rolleyes:

          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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          Dan Neely
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          I've looked at mine and still say it's presented an NP problem and provides zero guidance on either proving P=NP, implementing a nondeterministic turing machine in my brain, or implementing a heuristic that produces correct results in common cases with polynomial time. 1 You look at a fugly integral. 2 You spit it into two functions which contain (typically fugly) integrals (this is an NP step) 3 If you can't solve the resulting integrals directly and the different terms don't cancel out the fugly parts repeat step 1 on one or more of the terms from step 2 (this is an NP step).

          Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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          • D Dan Neely

            I've looked at mine and still say it's presented an NP problem and provides zero guidance on either proving P=NP, implementing a nondeterministic turing machine in my brain, or implementing a heuristic that produces correct results in common cases with polynomial time. 1 You look at a fugly integral. 2 You spit it into two functions which contain (typically fugly) integrals (this is an NP step) 3 If you can't solve the resulting integrals directly and the different terms don't cancel out the fugly parts repeat step 1 on one or more of the terms from step 2 (this is an NP step).

            Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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            Paul Conrad
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            Yep. I recall my calculus teacher saying the trick is in splitting it up into something more manageable. He never really did give us any surefire way of figuring it out. I just figured maybe there was no real solid trick to deciding how to split.

            "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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            • P Perspx

              As some of you may remember I posted here a few months ago to ask for advice on whether or not to use caffeine before an important exam I was going to take; after your feedback I decided not to use caffeine but instead get a couple of weeks of good sleep. It proved to be fruitful and I passed with 96%, getting me where I wanted to be :) In short, thanks for the advice from all that contributed :) Regards, --Perspx

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              Dalek Dave
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              go on then, say something in Algebra!

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              • P Perspx

                As some of you may remember I posted here a few months ago to ask for advice on whether or not to use caffeine before an important exam I was going to take; after your feedback I decided not to use caffeine but instead get a couple of weeks of good sleep. It proved to be fruitful and I passed with 96%, getting me where I wanted to be :) In short, thanks for the advice from all that contributed :) Regards, --Perspx

                "I've got my kids brainwashed: You don't use Google, and you don't use an iPod." - Steve Ballmer
                "Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph." - Linus Torvalds

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                Lost User
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                96%! Don't you mean p = 96m / 100x (crap attempt at algebraic joke, I know - it's been a long time since I did any algebra1

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                • T ToddHileHoffer

                  Good job. I think you should quit while you're ahead. Nothing beyond Algebra has any practical use unless you want to be an engineer or something. BTW, did you join the Math Debate Team? Nothing like hanging out together and Mathdebating ... LOL.

                  I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                  Gary Wheeler
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                  ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                  othing like hanging out together and Mathdebating ...

                  Was that an Abelian grope?

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    go on then, say something in Algebra!

                    ------------------------------------ We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. - Aesop

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                    Gary Wheeler
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                    e_i_π = -1

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    • P Perspx

                      Ah, I see. Well the A-level course is predominantly algebra-based, I believe. I'm mainly doing maths as it's a prerequisite for most university courses in IT here in the UK. Regards, --Perspx

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                      Wait until you get into higher-level computing theory, where +, *, and X take on whole new meanings :-D

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