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  • B Brady Kelly

    Spiders lodge in the broom and plot revenge from behind the kitchen door. OK, that's where my broom is, and I don't want a pissed off rain spider[^] in my broom.

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    Paul Conrad
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    Brady Kelly wrote:

    don't want a pissed off rain spider

    Nope. Glad I don't have any of those. These large, attractive spiders Okaaaaaay.

    Brady Kelly wrote:

    Spiders lodge in the broom and plot revenge from behind the kitchen door. OK, that's where my broom is

    That is why we have two brooms. One for outside and the other for inside.

    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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    • B Brady Kelly

      Spiders lodge in the broom and plot revenge from behind the kitchen door. OK, that's where my broom is, and I don't want a pissed off rain spider[^] in my broom.

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      Anthony Mushrow
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      Big spiders are no problem, it's the small fast ones you have to watch out for.

      My current favourite word is: Nipple!

      -SK Genius

      Game Programming articles start -here[^]-

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      • P Paul Conrad

        :laugh: I doubt the US Forest Service would allow me to use a blowtorch to get rid of the old paint. The fire danger sign at the ranger station around the corner from here is still "High"... :sigh:

        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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        What if you promise to be careful?

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          What if you promise to be careful?

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          Not sure, but it couldn't be really any different than the people who flick their burning cigarette butts out of their cars into the dry brush. Couple that up with 50-90mph Santa Ana winds that blow at this time of year, we could be in trouble. Cal-Fire is supposedly going to let the Australians borrow the DC-10 Supertanker for their fire season coming up. Here is a clip[^] of it making a drop in the Zaca fire.

          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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            Not sure, but it couldn't be really any different than the people who flick their burning cigarette butts out of their cars into the dry brush. Couple that up with 50-90mph Santa Ana winds that blow at this time of year, we could be in trouble. Cal-Fire is supposedly going to let the Australians borrow the DC-10 Supertanker for their fire season coming up. Here is a clip[^] of it making a drop in the Zaca fire.

            "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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            Paul Conrad wrote:

            Cal-Fire is supposedly going to let the Australians borrow the DC-10 Supertanker for their fire season coming up

            That's really nice of them, but wtf will they do if there's a fire in your neighborhood? huff and puff and blow the thing out? Screw the Aussies.

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            • A Anthony Mushrow

              Big spiders are no problem, it's the small fast ones you have to watch out for.

              My current favourite word is: Nipple!

              -SK Genius

              Game Programming articles start -here[^]-

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              Oakman
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              SK Genius wrote:

              Big spiders are no problem

              Depends on how big - ask Frodo

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                Paul Conrad wrote:

                Cal-Fire is supposedly going to let the Australians borrow the DC-10 Supertanker for their fire season coming up

                That's really nice of them, but wtf will they do if there's a fire in your neighborhood? huff and puff and blow the thing out? Screw the Aussies.

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                Oakman wrote:

                will they do if there's a fire in your neighborhood? huff and puff and blow the thing out?

                Exactly. My wife said she was not worried about it since our fire season is pretty much over. Well, not worried about it until I reminded her of the fire incident we had in January '06. Luckily the wind blew it straight into an area that was hit two years before, and a storm rolled in three days after it started. The lady that works with my wife, her husband is a mechanic for the plane and said something about the Aussies being charged $50K per day using the plane. Supposedly Arnold Schwarzenegger has been trying to get a 747 retrofitted for fire fighting. Hell with that, how about a C-130 or C-5 the Air Force would be willing to donate :rolleyes:

                "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                • A Anthony Mushrow

                  Big spiders are no problem, it's the small fast ones you have to watch out for.

                  My current favourite word is: Nipple!

                  -SK Genius

                  Game Programming articles start -here[^]-

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                  SK Genius wrote:

                  it's the small fast ones you have to watch out for

                  Yep. We have plenty of black widows around here. My wife and kids freak out over the wolf spiders[^]. It's funny watching our three cats bat these guys around :laugh:

                  "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                  • P Paul Conrad

                    Oakman wrote:

                    will they do if there's a fire in your neighborhood? huff and puff and blow the thing out?

                    Exactly. My wife said she was not worried about it since our fire season is pretty much over. Well, not worried about it until I reminded her of the fire incident we had in January '06. Luckily the wind blew it straight into an area that was hit two years before, and a storm rolled in three days after it started. The lady that works with my wife, her husband is a mechanic for the plane and said something about the Aussies being charged $50K per day using the plane. Supposedly Arnold Schwarzenegger has been trying to get a 747 retrofitted for fire fighting. Hell with that, how about a C-130 or C-5 the Air Force would be willing to donate :rolleyes:

                    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                    Paul Conrad wrote:

                    said something about the Aussies being charged $50K per day using the plane.

                    Great and what happens if they break it? Would they come up with the money to buy a new one (Do you really think a government Carson is happy with would provide new equipment for the US? They'd claim it was "used" and offer $0.10 on the $1.00) And even if they did, the delivery time would leave you unprotected for at least a year.

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                      Paul Conrad wrote:

                      said something about the Aussies being charged $50K per day using the plane.

                      Great and what happens if they break it? Would they come up with the money to buy a new one (Do you really think a government Carson is happy with would provide new equipment for the US? They'd claim it was "used" and offer $0.10 on the $1.00) And even if they did, the delivery time would leave you unprotected for at least a year.

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                      Oakman wrote:

                      Great and what happens if they break it? Would they come up with the money to buy a new one

                      That is precisely why I wasn't too thrilled about hearing about the notion of the plane going down there.

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                      • O Oakman

                        SK Genius wrote:

                        Big spiders are no problem

                        Depends on how big - ask Frodo

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                        Oakman wrote:

                        Depends on how big

                        Sure, size can matter, but also the quantity. Just ask Harry Potter and his friends about the ones they dealt with in Harry Potter: Chamber of Secrets :rolleyes: Or, how about those red ants in the latest Indiana Jones?

                        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                        • O Oakman

                          Paul Conrad wrote:

                          Cal-Fire is supposedly going to let the Australians borrow the DC-10 Supertanker for their fire season coming up

                          That's really nice of them, but wtf will they do if there's a fire in your neighborhood? huff and puff and blow the thing out? Screw the Aussies.

                          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                          Oakman wrote:

                          Screw the Aussies.

                          Screw you too![^]

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                            Oakman wrote:

                            Screw the Aussies.

                            Screw you too![^]

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                            Josh Gray wrote:

                            Screw you too!

                            Thanks, but I prefer girls. Josh, give me one good reason why the USA should rent Australia its only Big Gulp plane. Why can't Australia build its own? Indeed, why hasn't Australia already built its own?

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                              Oakman wrote:

                              Depends on how big

                              Sure, size can matter, but also the quantity. Just ask Harry Potter and his friends about the ones they dealt with in Harry Potter: Chamber of Secrets :rolleyes: Or, how about those red ants in the latest Indiana Jones?

                              "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                              Paul Conrad wrote:

                              Sure, size can matter, but also the quantity

                              I've typed four different remarks responding to that line - I think I'll display the better part of valor and move on. . .

                              Paul Conrad wrote:

                              Or, how about those red ants in the latest Indiana Jones?

                              We have fire ants here in South Carolina - nasty little buggers, and deadly.

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                                Josh Gray wrote:

                                Screw you too!

                                Thanks, but I prefer girls. Josh, give me one good reason why the USA should rent Australia its only Big Gulp plane. Why can't Australia build its own? Indeed, why hasn't Australia already built its own?

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                                Oakman wrote:

                                Josh, give me one good reason why the USA should rent Australia its only Big Gulp plane. Why can't Australia build its own? Indeed, why hasn't Australia already built its own?

                                Why should we send our trained fire fighters to risk their lives fighting fires in the States? Why would you even need us to? If you had half a clue what you're talking about you'd know that we source all sorts of fire fighting equipment from many places around the world for our summer fire season as so many countries including the US. Personally I like Elvis, I'm pretty sure he's owned by the Canadians

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                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  Josh, give me one good reason why the USA should rent Australia its only Big Gulp plane. Why can't Australia build its own? Indeed, why hasn't Australia already built its own?

                                  Why should we send our trained fire fighters to risk their lives fighting fires in the States? Why would you even need us to? If you had half a clue what you're talking about you'd know that we source all sorts of fire fighting equipment from many places around the world for our summer fire season as so many countries including the US. Personally I like Elvis, I'm pretty sure he's owned by the Canadians

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                                  Josh Gray wrote:

                                  Why should we send our trained fire fighters to risk their lives fighting fires in the States?

                                  Do you send them, or do they sign on for the pay during a period of time when they might be laid off? I am not being snarky, I am asking because I don't know. Generally speaking, I suppose you do it because we do it. Tit for Tat is often a good deal. However, I'm guessing that Oz has gotten so used to renting big water movers that it hasn't anticipated the possibility that California and Canada might say "no."

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                                  I'm pretty sure he's owned by the Canadians

                                  And Canada is owned by the Swiss Gnomes. ;)

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                                    Josh Gray wrote:

                                    Why should we send our trained fire fighters to risk their lives fighting fires in the States?

                                    Do you send them, or do they sign on for the pay during a period of time when they might be laid off? I am not being snarky, I am asking because I don't know. Generally speaking, I suppose you do it because we do it. Tit for Tat is often a good deal. However, I'm guessing that Oz has gotten so used to renting big water movers that it hasn't anticipated the possibility that California and Canada might say "no."

                                    Josh Gray wrote:

                                    I'm pretty sure he's owned by the Canadians

                                    And Canada is owned by the Swiss Gnomes. ;)

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                                    Oakman wrote:

                                    Do you send them, or do they sign on for the pay during a period of time when they might be laid off?

                                    I think you'll find they get paid the same no matter where they work. Im sure they receive a travel allowance but I doubt its personally profitable for them. Knowing a few rural fire fighters I can tell you they take great pride in their work and many also volunteer in their own time for their local communities "These men and women who traveled from Australia to the United States to assist our firefighting efforts deserve our thanks for risking their lives with such bravery and such professionalism," Kempthorne said. "This cooperation in firefighting is just one example of the close U.S.-Australia relationship that so often results in the United States and Australia standing side-by-side."[^] Sounds to me like we should both be thankful. Would the US be so silly as to lend us the aircraft without a contract that details how any costs associated with damage, wear, maintenance etc would be handled? You're an arsehole and a bully Jon

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                                      Paul Conrad wrote:

                                      Sure, size can matter, but also the quantity

                                      I've typed four different remarks responding to that line - I think I'll display the better part of valor and move on. . .

                                      Paul Conrad wrote:

                                      Or, how about those red ants in the latest Indiana Jones?

                                      We have fire ants here in South Carolina - nasty little buggers, and deadly.

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                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      I've typed four different remarks responding to that line - I think I'll display the better part of valor and move on. . .

                                      Ummm, I was talking about spiders :laugh:

                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      We have fire ants here in South Carolina - nasty little buggers

                                      I hear ya'll have plenty of coral snakes o'er there :)

                                      "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                        Oakman wrote:

                                        Do you send them, or do they sign on for the pay during a period of time when they might be laid off?

                                        I think you'll find they get paid the same no matter where they work. Im sure they receive a travel allowance but I doubt its personally profitable for them. Knowing a few rural fire fighters I can tell you they take great pride in their work and many also volunteer in their own time for their local communities "These men and women who traveled from Australia to the United States to assist our firefighting efforts deserve our thanks for risking their lives with such bravery and such professionalism," Kempthorne said. "This cooperation in firefighting is just one example of the close U.S.-Australia relationship that so often results in the United States and Australia standing side-by-side."[^] Sounds to me like we should both be thankful. Would the US be so silly as to lend us the aircraft without a contract that details how any costs associated with damage, wear, maintenance etc would be handled? You're an arsehole and a bully Jon

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                                        Josh Gray wrote:

                                        I think you'll find they get paid the same no matter where they work.

                                        It's no how much they make - they should be paid a lot more than they are, I'm sure - but who foots the bill.

                                        Josh Gray wrote:

                                        Knowing a few rural fire fighters I can tell you they take great pride in their work and many also volunteer in their own time for their local communities

                                        My town's entire fire department is volunteer and not paid at all. But so what?

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                                        You're an a***hole and a bully Jon

                                        I pretty much give back as good as I get, Josh. People who deal with me straightforwardly and with respect, can pretty much count on the same from me - but you and Carson and Ka and a couple of others who consistently insult and denigrate the US and attack anyone who suggests that it's a force for good in the world, often find themselves shown up for what they are. You have a problem with what I say to you? Try changing your own attitude.

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                                          Oakman wrote:

                                          I've typed four different remarks responding to that line - I think I'll display the better part of valor and move on. . .

                                          Ummm, I was talking about spiders :laugh:

                                          Oakman wrote:

                                          We have fire ants here in South Carolina - nasty little buggers

                                          I hear ya'll have plenty of coral snakes o'er there :)

                                          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                          Paul Conrad wrote:

                                          I hear ya'll have plenty of coral snakes o'er there

                                          They don't get quite this far west, but the eastern half of the state has 'em. Remember "Red and Yellow kills a fellow; Red and Black - venom lack." ) Did you know that the US is running out of coral anti-venom?

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