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It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. It is the soldier, who salutes the flag, who serves under the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag. If you can read this message thank a teacher; if you are reading it in English of your own free will, thank a soldier. ~ Charles M. Province
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It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. It is the soldier, who salutes the flag, who serves under the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag. If you can read this message thank a teacher; if you are reading it in English of your own free will, thank a soldier. ~ Charles M. Province
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AMEN!
AF Pilot
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Five. Oakman is spouting simplistic crap, choosing today especially. Its pathetic, peurile, and chilish.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Fat Boy, you're the one who is childish. If it weren't for the RAF, you wouldn't be able to write a "bloody thing" in English, now would you? It would be German, and they would be telling you what to write!
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It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. It is the soldier, who salutes the flag, who serves under the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag. If you can read this message thank a teacher; if you are reading it in English of your own free will, thank a soldier. ~ Charles M. Province
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Oakman wrote:
It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. It is the soldier, who salutes the flag, who serves under the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag.
Please don't forget about tanks, airplanes, bombs, mines, torpedoes, missiles, nukes, etc., which are also part of the war machine. After all, it wasn't soldiers that kept the Soviets at bay.
"When you reach a certain level of comfort, there's nothing wrong with paying somewhat more." -- John McCain in 2000, on his vote against lowering the top tax rate from 39% to Bush's proposed 35%.
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It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. It is the soldier, who salutes the flag, who serves under the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag. If you can read this message thank a teacher; if you are reading it in English of your own free will, thank a soldier. ~ Charles M. Province
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Fat Boy, you're the one who is childish. If it weren't for the RAF, you wouldn't be able to write a "bloody thing" in English, now would you? It would be German, and they would be telling you what to write!
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Reagan Conservative wrote:
Fat Boy, you're the one who is childish. If it weren't for the RAF, you wouldn't be able to write a "bloody thing" in English, now would you? It would be German,
So what? Why should I prefer to write in English? I am English but I dont live there. Why should I feel any special attatchment to English, which is just a Germanic language anyway. As for telling me what to write can you provide any proof that Germany prior to the second world war was in any way more restrictive than Britain at the same time?
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fat_boy wrote:
5 points to the first person that can understand it!
I win
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Bob Emmett wrote:
The Allied forces that kicked the Germans out in WW2
Were comprised primarily of Brits and US soldiers.
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fat_boy wrote:
I dont know why I bother answering you.
Because you're hoping you can say something that will make you look like less of a pompous ass than I am making you out to be.
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US soldiers saved our a**es in wwii, both true for French and Brits. Had they not been there, the Brits would not have lasted much longer against the Germans.
Pierre Leclercq wrote:
Had they not been there, the Brits would not have lasted much longer against the Germans.
Prior to the normandy landings the British had: 1) Won the air war in western Europe. 2) Won the war in the atlantic. 3) Won the war in North Africa against both Italy and Germany. 4) Had the Japanese in retreat, pushing them out of Burma. Yes the US shortened the war, and finished the Japanese off. Their main contribution prior to this was in materials and goods, without which Britain would have found it hard to continue. There is one overloked factor in Europe, the Russians. They probablty did more to drain Germany to the point where it was close to collapse. The US came in most likely because they didnt want Russia to win the war and thus take the whole of Europe.
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Regarding your question yesterday. Tune in (if you can) to BBC4tv tonight. 8.10pm "The Great War - An exploration of the aftermath of WW1" and 10pm "Timewatch - The Last Day of WW1 (last in series)" and 11pm "What Did You Do In The Great War, Daddy? - children of men who died during WW1" You may find them interesting, and may answer your questions of yesterday.
I missed it. I did however study the 20th century when at college and with subsequent reading have a good understanding of the background. And because of that I can state that war is not about idealism, its a bout money and power, and the reason we went to war against Germany was to try to maintain our industrial advantage and global markets. Money and power, the only reason we ever had war, and the only reaon we ever will. So, in remembering those millions who diead, remember those few who made millions fomr their deaths.
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And French and Polish, and Indians and Russians, and Greeks and Serbs etc etc etc.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
The Allied forces were comprised primarily of UK, and US forces, witgh strong support from Canada and air support from Oz. The number of Russians fighting in France was somewhere between zero and 100. Fewer Serbs. And the French collaborationists were too busy working as spotters from the Germans to free their own country.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
I read it in English of my own free will (and liking, I may add), which soldier should I thank?
I'd suggest the 1st Gurkha Rifles. But be very polite. The Gurkhas are some of the best soldiers in the world.
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Pierre Leclercq wrote:
Had they not been there, the Brits would not have lasted much longer against the Germans.
Prior to the normandy landings the British had: 1) Won the air war in western Europe. 2) Won the war in the atlantic. 3) Won the war in North Africa against both Italy and Germany. 4) Had the Japanese in retreat, pushing them out of Burma. Yes the US shortened the war, and finished the Japanese off. Their main contribution prior to this was in materials and goods, without which Britain would have found it hard to continue. There is one overloked factor in Europe, the Russians. They probablty did more to drain Germany to the point where it was close to collapse. The US came in most likely because they didnt want Russia to win the war and thus take the whole of Europe.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
There is one overloked factor in Europe, the Russians. They probablty did more to drain Germany to the point where it was close to collapse. The US came in most likely because they didn't want Russia to win the war and thus take the whole of Europe.
ROFL. The U.S. entry into the war, relieved pressure on the Russians by forcing the Germans to return their attention to the Western front and to pull out of Africa - something they had no intention of doing until Patton entered the war. It's highly unlikely that the Germans could have held even European Russia had they knocked the Russians out, but they could have neutralized that country long enough to invade and take over England. Your rather pathetic rewrite of history is laughable. And has little or nothing to do with the liberation of Europe.
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You have a rich fantasy world you live in Oakman. Live long and prosper! (In your stupidity)
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I missed it. I did however study the 20th century when at college and with subsequent reading have a good understanding of the background. And because of that I can state that war is not about idealism, its a bout money and power, and the reason we went to war against Germany was to try to maintain our industrial advantage and global markets. Money and power, the only reason we ever had war, and the only reaon we ever will. So, in remembering those millions who diead, remember those few who made millions fomr their deaths.
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fat_boy wrote:
So, in remembering those millions who diead, remember those few who made millions fomr their deaths
Sure thing, chief. I'm always up for a bit of sophomoric economics. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Where did you get that from? Paratrooper magazine? You know, those comics kids buy which have a Tommy on the front shouting 'Die Fritz!'
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The Allied forces were comprised primarily of UK, and US forces, witgh strong support from Canada and air support from Oz. The number of Russians fighting in France was somewhere between zero and 100. Fewer Serbs. And the French collaborationists were too busy working as spotters from the Germans to free their own country.
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