A website I developped
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So, after quite a while I had the opportunity to code again and design a small website for my brother-in-law. He is real estate for restaurants, bars and hotels (I mean he buys/sells professional buildings, I don't know if real estate is the good wording). It is LAMP-based :|. I wanted to use this opportunity to jump into the .NET world, but I already had some knowledge in PHP-mySQL and he could not wait for me to learn ASP.NET in detail before having the first draft of the website done :). Plus I cannot afford Visual Studio just for this "one-shot-project", and the express edition, is, well, the express edition. Could you guys have a look at it and comment/suggest for improvements (about anything) ? Design is minimal, but that's how he wanted it to be. There are a few things that need tweaking (the map on the second page is still not working, I need to implement a pager for the results of the search, the pink rectangle on the first page looks ugly,...) Here you go: http://www.immo-brasseurs.com/index.php[^] There is another file index.html at the root, but that is the current "Site under construction" page. So please ignore this one. Oh, and the site is in French... Thanks for your feedback!
I'm waiting for Windows Feng Shui, where you have to re-arrange your icons in a manner which best enables your application to run. Richard Jones
For a website such as this, and indeed even ones quite a bit more complex, Visual Studio Express edition would be more than adequate! Don't dismiss it just becasue it's an "Express" edition - it's still pretty powerful! As for the site... well, it does the job, clean and simple... I don't know why have set your image height and width (for the logo) as percentages; this can lead to to some funny rendereing. Decide what size the image should be and set the figures as integers, I would advise... cheers Phil
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For a website such as this, and indeed even ones quite a bit more complex, Visual Studio Express edition would be more than adequate! Don't dismiss it just becasue it's an "Express" edition - it's still pretty powerful! As for the site... well, it does the job, clean and simple... I don't know why have set your image height and width (for the logo) as percentages; this can lead to to some funny rendereing. Decide what size the image should be and set the figures as integers, I would advise... cheers Phil
Thanks Phil. I managed to implement something with the map, as you may have partially seen (the final version is not online), you helped me on that one on the web dev forum, thanks again, was indeed useful.
Phil Uribe wrote:
Don't dismiss it just becasue it's an "Express" edition
I asked the question here a while ago, and almost everybody said it lacks essential features and is not worth looking at.
Phil Uribe wrote:
set the figures as integers
Good point, I made that as a first shot to reduce the size of the logo, and forgot to fix it. Now on the ToDo list.
I'm waiting for Windows Feng Shui, where you have to re-arrange your icons in a manner which best enables your application to run. Richard Jones
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So, after quite a while I had the opportunity to code again and design a small website for my brother-in-law. He is real estate for restaurants, bars and hotels (I mean he buys/sells professional buildings, I don't know if real estate is the good wording). It is LAMP-based :|. I wanted to use this opportunity to jump into the .NET world, but I already had some knowledge in PHP-mySQL and he could not wait for me to learn ASP.NET in detail before having the first draft of the website done :). Plus I cannot afford Visual Studio just for this "one-shot-project", and the express edition, is, well, the express edition. Could you guys have a look at it and comment/suggest for improvements (about anything) ? Design is minimal, but that's how he wanted it to be. There are a few things that need tweaking (the map on the second page is still not working, I need to implement a pager for the results of the search, the pink rectangle on the first page looks ugly,...) Here you go: http://www.immo-brasseurs.com/index.php[^] There is another file index.html at the root, but that is the current "Site under construction" page. So please ignore this one. Oh, and the site is in French... Thanks for your feedback!
I'm waiting for Windows Feng Shui, where you have to re-arrange your icons in a manner which best enables your application to run. Richard Jones
Overall, pretty good. - the colours need to be tweaked...the blue in the banner doesn't go with the logo and there is an outline that looks pink, even though it's probably red. Try going to Adobe Kuler [^]site, create a new theme and put the blue of the logo as the base colour - fix the logo as has already been mentioned - get rid of the spinning heart thing...that went out in the 90's and it's a distraction - needs a photo on the frontpage. Maybe even colourized (monochrome) to go with your colours. If all you have to deploy your site is a linux, then that's what you have to design to...eventually we'll be able to do ASP.Net on linux under Mono, but until then it's good old PHP
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Thanks Phil. I managed to implement something with the map, as you may have partially seen (the final version is not online), you helped me on that one on the web dev forum, thanks again, was indeed useful.
Phil Uribe wrote:
Don't dismiss it just becasue it's an "Express" edition
I asked the question here a while ago, and almost everybody said it lacks essential features and is not worth looking at.
Phil Uribe wrote:
set the figures as integers
Good point, I made that as a first shot to reduce the size of the logo, and forgot to fix it. Now on the ToDo list.
I'm waiting for Windows Feng Shui, where you have to re-arrange your icons in a manner which best enables your application to run. Richard Jones
Rage wrote:
I asked the question here a while ago, and almost everybody said it lacks essential features and is not worth looking at.
yes well... "alomst everybody" here, much as I love 'wem all to bits :rose: likes to think that anything not related to VS2010/C# team enterprise special pre-beta SP5 edition isn't worth looking at! :-) They are all programming snobs! I dare say some of them have some justification for being so, but still.... ...for a single developer, if you don't need source control for example, VS Express edition can do an awful lot, and is certainly all you need to develop a site such as yours. I actually use the professional edition, but in fact 99% of what I do could be done in the Express one without a problem. While my clients may not be blue-chip mulitnationals, nevertheless I have developed some quite complex databse-driven sites with custom CMS's and admin backends etc etc - all of which could have been handled by the Express edition of VS quite easily. It may not have SQLServer integration and database design tools - but that doesn't stop you using SQL Server - of course, it helps if you know how to program for yourself, and know somethign about databases instead of relying on templates adn pre-built controls to do all your work for you... ..and certainly if you are interested in learning to program in .NET it'd be a good tool to start with.. I suspect it'll be a long time before you decide you have to upgrade to a more "senior" product.. and I don't mean that as a slur on your ablilities!
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Thanks Phil. I managed to implement something with the map, as you may have partially seen (the final version is not online), you helped me on that one on the web dev forum, thanks again, was indeed useful.
Phil Uribe wrote:
Don't dismiss it just becasue it's an "Express" edition
I asked the question here a while ago, and almost everybody said it lacks essential features and is not worth looking at.
Phil Uribe wrote:
set the figures as integers
Good point, I made that as a first shot to reduce the size of the logo, and forgot to fix it. Now on the ToDo list.
I'm waiting for Windows Feng Shui, where you have to re-arrange your icons in a manner which best enables your application to run. Richard Jones
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Overall, pretty good. - the colours need to be tweaked...the blue in the banner doesn't go with the logo and there is an outline that looks pink, even though it's probably red. Try going to Adobe Kuler [^]site, create a new theme and put the blue of the logo as the base colour - fix the logo as has already been mentioned - get rid of the spinning heart thing...that went out in the 90's and it's a distraction - needs a photo on the frontpage. Maybe even colourized (monochrome) to go with your colours. If all you have to deploy your site is a linux, then that's what you have to design to...eventually we'll be able to do ASP.Net on linux under Mono, but until then it's good old PHP
The color scheme does not fit with the logo, agreed. I tried something similar to Adobe Kuler, but did not come up with anything decent (colors are black and white and blue, anything I got was pretty ... depressive). I'll give a try at Adobe Kuler.
David Lockwood wrote:
there is an outline that looks pink
David Lockwood wrote:
get rid of the spinning heart thing...that went out in the 90's and it's a distraction
Yes, as I mentioned in my earlier thread, this needs fixed, I know it is ugly. My wife even said the pink and the spinning heart is very "Want to chat on the phone with me ?" :-) I am still trying to find a decent way to outline that paragraph...
David Lockwood wrote:
If all you have to deploy your site is a linux
I could have had a windows. The site is hosted by 1and1, they actually offer both possibilities. Thank you very much for your advice.
I'm waiting for Windows Feng Shui, where you have to re-arrange your icons in a manner which best enables your application to run. Richard Jones
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The color scheme does not fit with the logo, agreed. I tried something similar to Adobe Kuler, but did not come up with anything decent (colors are black and white and blue, anything I got was pretty ... depressive). I'll give a try at Adobe Kuler.
David Lockwood wrote:
there is an outline that looks pink
David Lockwood wrote:
get rid of the spinning heart thing...that went out in the 90's and it's a distraction
Yes, as I mentioned in my earlier thread, this needs fixed, I know it is ugly. My wife even said the pink and the spinning heart is very "Want to chat on the phone with me ?" :-) I am still trying to find a decent way to outline that paragraph...
David Lockwood wrote:
If all you have to deploy your site is a linux
I could have had a windows. The site is hosted by 1and1, they actually offer both possibilities. Thank you very much for your advice.
I'm waiting for Windows Feng Shui, where you have to re-arrange your icons in a manner which best enables your application to run. Richard Jones
Rage wrote:
colors are black and white and blue, anything I got was pretty ... depressive
Black and White are neutral so don't really count, so it's only the blue you really have to worry about (there seems to be 2 shades of blue in the logo when you look closely). Trying putting in the blue in Kuler and choosing the 'Complementary' or 'Compound' options...gives you a couple of earth tones that might work. Yeah, the pink outline with the spinning heart says 'phone sex' :)
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Thanks Phil. I managed to implement something with the map, as you may have partially seen (the final version is not online), you helped me on that one on the web dev forum, thanks again, was indeed useful.
Phil Uribe wrote:
Don't dismiss it just becasue it's an "Express" edition
I asked the question here a while ago, and almost everybody said it lacks essential features and is not worth looking at.
Phil Uribe wrote:
set the figures as integers
Good point, I made that as a first shot to reduce the size of the logo, and forgot to fix it. Now on the ToDo list.
I'm waiting for Windows Feng Shui, where you have to re-arrange your icons in a manner which best enables your application to run. Richard Jones
I don't use visual web developer, but I use visual c# at home a lot, and it's fine. It's missing the fancy graphical designers for things like linq to sql, and a lot of templates and all that guff, but everything it's missing is purely GUI sugar. When it comes right down to it, you can build a complete .net app with just notepad and the csc compiler. It's better to learn by coding anyway rather than rely on GUI designers to do all your code for you.
Simon
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So, after quite a while I had the opportunity to code again and design a small website for my brother-in-law. He is real estate for restaurants, bars and hotels (I mean he buys/sells professional buildings, I don't know if real estate is the good wording). It is LAMP-based :|. I wanted to use this opportunity to jump into the .NET world, but I already had some knowledge in PHP-mySQL and he could not wait for me to learn ASP.NET in detail before having the first draft of the website done :). Plus I cannot afford Visual Studio just for this "one-shot-project", and the express edition, is, well, the express edition. Could you guys have a look at it and comment/suggest for improvements (about anything) ? Design is minimal, but that's how he wanted it to be. There are a few things that need tweaking (the map on the second page is still not working, I need to implement a pager for the results of the search, the pink rectangle on the first page looks ugly,...) Here you go: http://www.immo-brasseurs.com/index.php[^] There is another file index.html at the root, but that is the current "Site under construction" page. So please ignore this one. Oh, and the site is in French... Thanks for your feedback!
I'm waiting for Windows Feng Shui, where you have to re-arrange your icons in a manner which best enables your application to run. Richard Jones
My only recommendation is take a look at ASP.NET MVC. It's sooooo much better than anything else that's available at the moment (without writing the whole thing yourself), a clean separation of back-end stuff and front-end stuff. Very simple and logical to learn. Although still in beta or whatever it's called it's pretty stable and working well on a couple of sites that I've done.
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My only recommendation is take a look at ASP.NET MVC. It's sooooo much better than anything else that's available at the moment (without writing the whole thing yourself), a clean separation of back-end stuff and front-end stuff. Very simple and logical to learn. Although still in beta or whatever it's called it's pretty stable and working well on a couple of sites that I've done.
Thank you for your comment.
I'm waiting for Windows Feng Shui, where you have to re-arrange your icons in a manner which best enables your application to run. Richard Jones
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So, after quite a while I had the opportunity to code again and design a small website for my brother-in-law. He is real estate for restaurants, bars and hotels (I mean he buys/sells professional buildings, I don't know if real estate is the good wording). It is LAMP-based :|. I wanted to use this opportunity to jump into the .NET world, but I already had some knowledge in PHP-mySQL and he could not wait for me to learn ASP.NET in detail before having the first draft of the website done :). Plus I cannot afford Visual Studio just for this "one-shot-project", and the express edition, is, well, the express edition. Could you guys have a look at it and comment/suggest for improvements (about anything) ? Design is minimal, but that's how he wanted it to be. There are a few things that need tweaking (the map on the second page is still not working, I need to implement a pager for the results of the search, the pink rectangle on the first page looks ugly,...) Here you go: http://www.immo-brasseurs.com/index.php[^] There is another file index.html at the root, but that is the current "Site under construction" page. So please ignore this one. Oh, and the site is in French... Thanks for your feedback!
I'm waiting for Windows Feng Shui, where you have to re-arrange your icons in a manner which best enables your application to run. Richard Jones
You need to look further into your site navigation. I went to the Achetez page, chose an area etc and searched. Then, other than the browser "back" button, there was no way to return to the map and the choices to change or refine my options. I had expected to click "Achetez" on the results page to go back to the map etc. page. I suggest a good technique to learn (but do not ask me how!): Take a few steps back and look at your site from the position of someone who knows nothing about it. I know that is easier said than done. I hope this helps. P.S. I like your sig. It reminds me of a former colleague (we're both engineers) who said: I want a computer that does what I want it to do, not one that does what I tell it to do. :laugh: