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    Kevin McFarlane
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    Why some developers prefer Macs[^] When Terry Weaver wants to create .Net applications, he fires up Visual Studio and types away like any other .Net programmer. The setup gets a bit weird when he wants to test how the .Net application might appear to a Mac user visiting the Web site. Instead of starting up another machine, asking a colleague with a Mac, or simply ignoring those crazy followers of Steve Jobs, Weaver just pops over to the browser in another window. That's easy because Visual Studio is running on Windows inside a Parallels virtual machine, which, in turn, runs on his Mac. He has a PC, a Mac, and a Unix development box all in one.

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      Why some developers prefer Macs[^] When Terry Weaver wants to create .Net applications, he fires up Visual Studio and types away like any other .Net programmer. The setup gets a bit weird when he wants to test how the .Net application might appear to a Mac user visiting the Web site. Instead of starting up another machine, asking a colleague with a Mac, or simply ignoring those crazy followers of Steve Jobs, Weaver just pops over to the browser in another window. That's easy because Visual Studio is running on Windows inside a Parallels virtual machine, which, in turn, runs on his Mac. He has a PC, a Mac, and a Unix development box all in one.

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      Ray Cassick
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      I was surprised... usually articles go one way or another but this one seemed to tall both sides of the story pretty well.


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        Why some developers prefer Macs[^] When Terry Weaver wants to create .Net applications, he fires up Visual Studio and types away like any other .Net programmer. The setup gets a bit weird when he wants to test how the .Net application might appear to a Mac user visiting the Web site. Instead of starting up another machine, asking a colleague with a Mac, or simply ignoring those crazy followers of Steve Jobs, Weaver just pops over to the browser in another window. That's easy because Visual Studio is running on Windows inside a Parallels virtual machine, which, in turn, runs on his Mac. He has a PC, a Mac, and a Unix development box all in one.

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        Christian Graus
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        I use VMWare Fusion. I *love* it. It's a bit fiddly sometimes when I try to plug in a portable hard drive, and I have some permissions issues ( VS will not compile off the portable drive, I've not yet worked out why ), but overall, it's magic.

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          I use VMWare Fusion. I *love* it. It's a bit fiddly sometimes when I try to plug in a portable hard drive, and I have some permissions issues ( VS will not compile off the portable drive, I've not yet worked out why ), but overall, it's magic.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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          Jim Crafton
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          How has you iPhone development been going? Did you ever resolve the problems you were having? Have you tried the new forums that Apple opened up?

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            How has you iPhone development been going? Did you ever resolve the problems you were having? Have you tried the new forums that Apple opened up?

            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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            Christian Graus
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            Our app is free on the app store, it's called DIA. I found a third party forum and quickly got the little bit of help I needed.

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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              Why some developers prefer Macs[^] When Terry Weaver wants to create .Net applications, he fires up Visual Studio and types away like any other .Net programmer. The setup gets a bit weird when he wants to test how the .Net application might appear to a Mac user visiting the Web site. Instead of starting up another machine, asking a colleague with a Mac, or simply ignoring those crazy followers of Steve Jobs, Weaver just pops over to the browser in another window. That's easy because Visual Studio is running on Windows inside a Parallels virtual machine, which, in turn, runs on his Mac. He has a PC, a Mac, and a Unix development box all in one.

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              keyboard warrior
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              Just seems like an awful lot of money just to "cross-check" a .net application. Caveat:

              Kevin McFarlane wrote:

              visiting the Web site.

              There are at least a few or more programs that can allow you to run multiple browsers within Windows like Safari or FireFox etc as it would appear on the Mac. So to spend all the money it takes to get a Mac development machine versus an IBM development machine just seems like a waste for a little browser cross check. Especially when the difference between 4 gigs of ram and 8 gigs of ram from apple.com can be $1000

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                Just seems like an awful lot of money just to "cross-check" a .net application. Caveat:

                Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                visiting the Web site.

                There are at least a few or more programs that can allow you to run multiple browsers within Windows like Safari or FireFox etc as it would appear on the Mac. So to spend all the money it takes to get a Mac development machine versus an IBM development machine just seems like a waste for a little browser cross check. Especially when the difference between 4 gigs of ram and 8 gigs of ram from apple.com can be $1000

                ----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford

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                Yeah, my main reason is that I develop for Mac now, too. I just love that I can do both on the one machine.

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                  Yeah, my main reason is that I develop for Mac now, too. I just love that I can do both on the one machine.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                  keyboard warrior
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                  Oh yea huge convenience. And really really nice machines. I put together "what i would want" on apple.com :( i do not have near 10k.

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                    Our app is free on the app store, it's called DIA. I found a third party forum and quickly got the little bit of help I needed.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                    Kevin McFarlane
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                    In the UK I received an ad for a contract iPhone developer paying £65-75/hour, so keep at it! :)

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                      Oh yea huge convenience. And really really nice machines. I put together "what i would want" on apple.com :( i do not have near 10k.

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                      Christian Graus
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                      Mine only cost $6k, but that was with no monitors ( I already have three ). That's a Mac Pro with 10 Gig RAM, 2 x 500 Gig hard drives, 2 video cards.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                        In the UK I received an ad for a contract iPhone developer paying £65-75/hour, so keep at it! :)

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                        Christian Graus
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                        I've been offered some iPhone work, but I knocked it back. I have too much to do as it is. And I see that as a bubble that will burst pretty quick.

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                          Why some developers prefer Macs[^] When Terry Weaver wants to create .Net applications, he fires up Visual Studio and types away like any other .Net programmer. The setup gets a bit weird when he wants to test how the .Net application might appear to a Mac user visiting the Web site. Instead of starting up another machine, asking a colleague with a Mac, or simply ignoring those crazy followers of Steve Jobs, Weaver just pops over to the browser in another window. That's easy because Visual Studio is running on Windows inside a Parallels virtual machine, which, in turn, runs on his Mac. He has a PC, a Mac, and a Unix development box all in one.

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                          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                          I like Mac. My reasons are: 1. With VMWare fusion it is All in one (as cited in the article). 2. It is the only environment where I can develop and test for iPhone (without Jail breaking). But I will not say I prefer it for .Net development. 1. Slow if you run SQL Server, Sharepoint and VS 2008. 2. The max ram on my iMac is 4 GB.

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                            I like Mac. My reasons are: 1. With VMWare fusion it is All in one (as cited in the article). 2. It is the only environment where I can develop and test for iPhone (without Jail breaking). But I will not say I prefer it for .Net development. 1. Slow if you run SQL Server, Sharepoint and VS 2008. 2. The max ram on my iMac is 4 GB.

                            Proud to be a CPHog user

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                            Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                            The max ram on my iMac is 4 GB.

                            Did I mention I have 10 gig of RAM on my Mac Pro ?

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                              Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                              The max ram on my iMac is 4 GB.

                              Did I mention I have 10 gig of RAM on my Mac Pro ?

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              Did I mention I have 10 gig of RAM on my Mac Pro ?

                              Yes. But you did not mention the price ;P

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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                Did I mention I have 10 gig of RAM on my Mac Pro ?

                                Yes. But you did not mention the price ;P

                                Proud to be a CPHog user

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                                Christian Graus
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                                $6,000. You win.

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                                  I've been offered some iPhone work, but I knocked it back. I have too much to do as it is. And I see that as a bubble that will burst pretty quick.

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                                  Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  I've been offered some iPhone work,

                                  You seem to be like a job magnet:)

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                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    I've been offered some iPhone work,

                                    You seem to be like a job magnet:)

                                    Proud to be a CPHog user

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    Yeah, I actually got another offer for image processing work in the last two weeks, too.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                                      Our app is free on the app store, it's called DIA. I found a third party forum and quickly got the little bit of help I needed.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      it's called DIA

                                      The Webster Veterinary app? Trying it now.

                                      cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                        Why some developers prefer Macs[^] When Terry Weaver wants to create .Net applications, he fires up Visual Studio and types away like any other .Net programmer. The setup gets a bit weird when he wants to test how the .Net application might appear to a Mac user visiting the Web site. Instead of starting up another machine, asking a colleague with a Mac, or simply ignoring those crazy followers of Steve Jobs, Weaver just pops over to the browser in another window. That's easy because Visual Studio is running on Windows inside a Parallels virtual machine, which, in turn, runs on his Mac. He has a PC, a Mac, and a Unix development box all in one.

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                                        Paul Watson
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                                        I'm a Mac. I'm a PC. I'm a Nix. = I'm schizo. ;) (I use a Mac with VMWare Fusion running XP and Ubuntu for any down-voters who have an itchy finger.)

                                        cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          it's called DIA

                                          The Webster Veterinary app? Trying it now.

                                          cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                          Christian Graus
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                                          Yep - Webster are the people who bought the product off us, the people who Jason Henderson also works for ( well, he works for their parent ).

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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