Why some developers prefer Macs
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How has you iPhone development been going? Did you ever resolve the problems you were having? Have you tried the new forums that Apple opened up?
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Our app is free on the app store, it's called DIA. I found a third party forum and quickly got the little bit of help I needed.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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Why some developers prefer Macs[^] When Terry Weaver wants to create .Net applications, he fires up Visual Studio and types away like any other .Net programmer. The setup gets a bit weird when he wants to test how the .Net application might appear to a Mac user visiting the Web site. Instead of starting up another machine, asking a colleague with a Mac, or simply ignoring those crazy followers of Steve Jobs, Weaver just pops over to the browser in another window. That's easy because Visual Studio is running on Windows inside a Parallels virtual machine, which, in turn, runs on his Mac. He has a PC, a Mac, and a Unix development box all in one.
Kevin
Just seems like an awful lot of money just to "cross-check" a .net application. Caveat:
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
visiting the Web site.
There are at least a few or more programs that can allow you to run multiple browsers within Windows like Safari or FireFox etc as it would appear on the Mac. So to spend all the money it takes to get a Mac development machine versus an IBM development machine just seems like a waste for a little browser cross check. Especially when the difference between 4 gigs of ram and 8 gigs of ram from apple.com can be $1000
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
modified on Monday, November 17, 2008 4:03 PM
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Just seems like an awful lot of money just to "cross-check" a .net application. Caveat:
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
visiting the Web site.
There are at least a few or more programs that can allow you to run multiple browsers within Windows like Safari or FireFox etc as it would appear on the Mac. So to spend all the money it takes to get a Mac development machine versus an IBM development machine just seems like a waste for a little browser cross check. Especially when the difference between 4 gigs of ram and 8 gigs of ram from apple.com can be $1000
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
modified on Monday, November 17, 2008 4:03 PM
Yeah, my main reason is that I develop for Mac now, too. I just love that I can do both on the one machine.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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Yeah, my main reason is that I develop for Mac now, too. I just love that I can do both on the one machine.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Oh yea huge convenience. And really really nice machines. I put together "what i would want" on apple.com :( i do not have near 10k.
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
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Our app is free on the app store, it's called DIA. I found a third party forum and quickly got the little bit of help I needed.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
In the UK I received an ad for a contract iPhone developer paying £65-75/hour, so keep at it! :)
Kevin
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Oh yea huge convenience. And really really nice machines. I put together "what i would want" on apple.com :( i do not have near 10k.
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
Mine only cost $6k, but that was with no monitors ( I already have three ). That's a Mac Pro with 10 Gig RAM, 2 x 500 Gig hard drives, 2 video cards.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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In the UK I received an ad for a contract iPhone developer paying £65-75/hour, so keep at it! :)
Kevin
I've been offered some iPhone work, but I knocked it back. I have too much to do as it is. And I see that as a bubble that will burst pretty quick.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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Why some developers prefer Macs[^] When Terry Weaver wants to create .Net applications, he fires up Visual Studio and types away like any other .Net programmer. The setup gets a bit weird when he wants to test how the .Net application might appear to a Mac user visiting the Web site. Instead of starting up another machine, asking a colleague with a Mac, or simply ignoring those crazy followers of Steve Jobs, Weaver just pops over to the browser in another window. That's easy because Visual Studio is running on Windows inside a Parallels virtual machine, which, in turn, runs on his Mac. He has a PC, a Mac, and a Unix development box all in one.
Kevin
I like Mac. My reasons are: 1. With VMWare fusion it is All in one (as cited in the article). 2. It is the only environment where I can develop and test for iPhone (without Jail breaking). But I will not say I prefer it for .Net development. 1. Slow if you run SQL Server, Sharepoint and VS 2008. 2. The max ram on my iMac is 4 GB.
Proud to be a CPHog user
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I like Mac. My reasons are: 1. With VMWare fusion it is All in one (as cited in the article). 2. It is the only environment where I can develop and test for iPhone (without Jail breaking). But I will not say I prefer it for .Net development. 1. Slow if you run SQL Server, Sharepoint and VS 2008. 2. The max ram on my iMac is 4 GB.
Proud to be a CPHog user
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
The max ram on my iMac is 4 GB.
Did I mention I have 10 gig of RAM on my Mac Pro ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
The max ram on my iMac is 4 GB.
Did I mention I have 10 gig of RAM on my Mac Pro ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Christian Graus wrote:
Did I mention I have 10 gig of RAM on my Mac Pro ?
Yes. But you did not mention the price ;P
Proud to be a CPHog user
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Christian Graus wrote:
Did I mention I have 10 gig of RAM on my Mac Pro ?
Yes. But you did not mention the price ;P
Proud to be a CPHog user
$6,000. You win.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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I've been offered some iPhone work, but I knocked it back. I have too much to do as it is. And I see that as a bubble that will burst pretty quick.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Christian Graus wrote:
I've been offered some iPhone work,
You seem to be like a job magnet:)
Proud to be a CPHog user
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Christian Graus wrote:
I've been offered some iPhone work,
You seem to be like a job magnet:)
Proud to be a CPHog user
Yeah, I actually got another offer for image processing work in the last two weeks, too.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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Our app is free on the app store, it's called DIA. I found a third party forum and quickly got the little bit of help I needed.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Christian Graus wrote:
it's called DIA
The Webster Veterinary app? Trying it now.
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
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Why some developers prefer Macs[^] When Terry Weaver wants to create .Net applications, he fires up Visual Studio and types away like any other .Net programmer. The setup gets a bit weird when he wants to test how the .Net application might appear to a Mac user visiting the Web site. Instead of starting up another machine, asking a colleague with a Mac, or simply ignoring those crazy followers of Steve Jobs, Weaver just pops over to the browser in another window. That's easy because Visual Studio is running on Windows inside a Parallels virtual machine, which, in turn, runs on his Mac. He has a PC, a Mac, and a Unix development box all in one.
Kevin
I'm a Mac. I'm a PC. I'm a Nix. = I'm schizo. ;) (I use a Mac with VMWare Fusion running XP and Ubuntu for any down-voters who have an itchy finger.)
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
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Christian Graus wrote:
it's called DIA
The Webster Veterinary app? Trying it now.
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
Yep - Webster are the people who bought the product off us, the people who Jason Henderson also works for ( well, he works for their parent ).
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Did I mention I have 10 gig of RAM on my Mac Pro ?
Yes. But you did not mention the price ;P
Proud to be a CPHog user
If I was even thinking of 10gig of RAM then price wouldn't be a factor. Seriously, that is "buy whatever you need" budget. I see Mac Pro memory is still horribly expensive from Apple. At least the MacBook and MacBook Pro have gotten cheaper on the RAM front.
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
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If I was even thinking of 10gig of RAM then price wouldn't be a factor. Seriously, that is "buy whatever you need" budget. I see Mac Pro memory is still horribly expensive from Apple. At least the MacBook and MacBook Pro have gotten cheaper on the RAM front.
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
I bought third party RAM
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
The max ram on my iMac is 4 GB.
Did I mention I have 10 gig of RAM on my Mac Pro ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
Christian Graus wrote:
Did I mention I have 10 gig of RAM on my Mac Pro ?
what do you use it for? As far as I can remember Parallels did only support 1.5 GB for the Windows installation and only one cpu, which is frustrating when you have a nice dual quad-core Mac Pro... Has this changed? Can you now share more RAM and use more cores using Parallels? Do you use 64bit Windows using Parallels? I use a dual quad-core Mac Pro with 8GB RAM but have decided to use bootcamp so I can run Vista 64 bit... I never boot in Mac OS. EDIT: Mac Pro is a really nice machine except that I don't understand why a 6000AUD+ machine does not have a audio in port :confused: And I hate that you can't use a RAID setup with bootcamp...
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modified on Monday, November 17, 2008 9:07 PM
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Just seems like an awful lot of money just to "cross-check" a .net application. Caveat:
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
visiting the Web site.
There are at least a few or more programs that can allow you to run multiple browsers within Windows like Safari or FireFox etc as it would appear on the Mac. So to spend all the money it takes to get a Mac development machine versus an IBM development machine just seems like a waste for a little browser cross check. Especially when the difference between 4 gigs of ram and 8 gigs of ram from apple.com can be $1000
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
modified on Monday, November 17, 2008 4:03 PM
The cost of, say, a MacBook compared to some of the other offerings is on a par, or in some cases cheaper. I'm going through this exact decision at the moment and it's a close call. Most telling for me is that every laptop I get lasts 2 years. They break. I love the MacBook because the case is so simple and streamlined and doesn't have all those little bits and peices that stick out ready to break.
cheers, Chris Maunder
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