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    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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    Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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      Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

      Proud to be a CPHog user

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      Douglas Troy
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      The only language I find "beautiful" is the language of ... [BarryWhiteVoice]Love[BarryWhiteVoice] ;P

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        The only language I find "beautiful" is the language of ... [BarryWhiteVoice]Love[BarryWhiteVoice] ;P

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        I thought I was taking to Programmers and not romantics.

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          Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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          Christian Graus
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          Any BASIC derived language is ugly as sin. Objective C is ugly, too. So is C, for that matter. C++ and C# are top of my list.

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            Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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            Single Step Debugger
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            For me the good written C++ is more beautiful then an attractive girl emerging from the sea together with the sunrise in the summer day. JAVA could be sexy too in some cases. The “foreach” loop and “readonly” keyword gives the C# a little fat look.

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              I thought I was taking to Programmers and not romantics.

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Programmers are romantics. We're lovers not fighters. Why, developers are widely regarded as being the sexiest creatures on the planet. Our beauty causes people in other professions to go blind. We are love. We are truth. We are sex at a keyboard.

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                Any BASIC derived language is ugly as sin. Objective C is ugly, too. So is C, for that matter. C++ and C# are top of my list.

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                Paul Conrad
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                Christian Graus wrote:

                Any BASIC derived language is ugly as sin. Objective C is ugly

                I'd hate to see what kind of programming language you could get if you hooked those two up.

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                  For me the good written C++ is more beautiful then an attractive girl emerging from the sea together with the sunrise in the summer day. JAVA could be sexy too in some cases. The “foreach” loop and “readonly” keyword gives the C# a little fat look.

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                  Michael Bergman
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                  I think you ought to get out a little more often. :)

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                    Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                    Nemanja Trifunovic
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                    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                    Java/C#/Python/JavaScript

                    I find it strange that you bundle Python with Java/C#/JS. Languages that have pleasant and readable syntax IMHO are Python/BOO and Pascal/Modula/Delphi/Oberon. On the other hand I don't like the syntax of C and all derived languages (C++, Objective-C, C#, Java, JS, Perl...) Lisp, Fortran, Haskell, ML, Erlang are in between. Of course, syntax is not really very high on my list of important language features. In fact, the two languages I use most on daily bases are C++ and Perl and the syntax is definitelly not something that would attract me to either of these languages.

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                      Any BASIC derived language is ugly as sin. Objective C is ugly, too. So is C, for that matter. C++ and C# are top of my list.

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                      Nemanja Trifunovic
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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      C++ and C# are top of my list.

                      ...of ugly ones?

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                        Programmers are romantics. We're lovers not fighters. Why, developers are widely regarded as being the sexiest creatures on the planet. Our beauty causes people in other professions to go blind. We are love. We are truth. We are sex at a keyboard.

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                        Douglas Troy
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                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        We are sex at a keyboard.

                        5! :laugh:

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                          Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                          Java/C#/Python/JavaScript

                          I find it strange that you bundle Python with Java/C#/JS. Languages that have pleasant and readable syntax IMHO are Python/BOO and Pascal/Modula/Delphi/Oberon. On the other hand I don't like the syntax of C and all derived languages (C++, Objective-C, C#, Java, JS, Perl...) Lisp, Fortran, Haskell, ML, Erlang are in between. Of course, syntax is not really very high on my list of important language features. In fact, the two languages I use most on daily bases are C++ and Perl and the syntax is definitelly not something that would attract me to either of these languages.

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                          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                          I was not giving any strict order of preference, but I agree that Python is more pleasant than C#/C++.

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                            Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                            Michael Bergman
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                            Christian hinted at it: we tend to "feel" code is beautiful if it is well structured (or if you want to be sexist about it: well stacked!) and code which is not structured is ugly. But we do this in other areas of life as well: a flower bed which is looked after is pleasant to look at while an untended flower bed overrun with weeds is ugly. I suppose you could call BASIC, the weeds of programming languages.

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                              Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                              stephen hazel
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                              forth is prettiest (but not so useful in the long run) c++ is the next prettiest then c then 68000 asm the rest are are an absolute dog's breakfast... X|

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                                Christian hinted at it: we tend to "feel" code is beautiful if it is well structured (or if you want to be sexist about it: well stacked!) and code which is not structured is ugly. But we do this in other areas of life as well: a flower bed which is looked after is pleasant to look at while an untended flower bed overrun with weeds is ugly. I suppose you could call BASIC, the weeds of programming languages.

                                m.bergman

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                                Pete OHanlon
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                                Michael Bergman wrote:

                                I suppose you could call BASIC, the weeds of programming languages.

                                Only if you count COBOL as the badly written memo of programming languages.

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                                  For me the good written C++ is more beautiful then an attractive girl emerging from the sea together with the sunrise in the summer day. JAVA could be sexy too in some cases. The “foreach” loop and “readonly” keyword gives the C# a little fat look.

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                                  Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                                  For me the good written C++ is more beautiful then an attractive girl emerging from the sea together with the sunrise in the summer day. JAVA could be sexy too in some cases. The “foreach” loop and “readonly” keyword gives the C# a little fat look.

                                  Y'know Deyan, you should stop working during the weekends. Go out, enjoy a drink or four, meet some girls, meet some new people who aren't in the computer business, it'll do you a world of good my friend.

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                                    Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                                    Jim Crafton
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                                    In order of preference Object Pascal, Python, Smalltalk, C++/C#/C/Java, Lisp

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                                      Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                                      I take heat for it but I love VB.net. C++ may look pretty form a distance but as she gets closer you start to see that her blouse is off by one button, one high heel is shorter than the other and her eyes are crossed in a wild and crazy look that makes you think she perpetually drinks way too much. Oh yeah, and her hair extensions are starting to come loose...


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                                        Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                                        For me the good written C++ is more beautiful then an attractive girl emerging from the sea together with the sunrise in the summer day. JAVA could be sexy too in some cases. The “foreach” loop and “readonly” keyword gives the C# a little fat look.

                                        Y'know Deyan, you should stop working during the weekends. Go out, enjoy a drink or four, meet some girls, meet some new people who aren't in the computer business, it'll do you a world of good my friend.

                                        Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful


                                        Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa Unix is a Four Letter Word, and Vi is a Two Letter Abbreviation "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib

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                                        Single Step Debugger
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                                        Mustafa, could I ask you something? Print the quoted one, find some notary sign it, put a seal and bind with a government apostil after that send it to me. It could be something like: I, down signed Mustafa Ismail Mustafa Hereby Authorize Deyan Georgiev to:

                                        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                        Go out, enjoy a drink or four, meet some girls, meet some new people who aren't in the computer business

                                        I need something more official for my wife.:)

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                                          In order of preference Object Pascal, Python, Smalltalk, C++/C#/C/Java, Lisp

                                          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                                          If one says that the Object Pascal is the best language ever created I probably would agree. But pretty?!? It’s ugly like hell. Even using the “With” can't prevent code from looking like teenage chat-room.

                                          The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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