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  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

    Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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    Shog9 0
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    I enjoy the look of C and JavaScript. Both lend themselves well to small, tightly-written functions. Of course, any language can be made ugly.

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    You're right. These facts that you've laid out totally contradict the wild ramblings that I pulled off the back of cornflakes packets.

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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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      Vikram A Punathambekar
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      I find the C-derived languages pleasing to look at. I am not a VB basher, but the code looks ugly. I am not familiar enough with other languages to comment on them.

      Cheers, Vıkram.


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      • G Gary R Wheeler

        Steve Hazel wrote:

        forth is prettiest (but not so useful in the long run

        You didn't take your meds today, did you? FORTH; blech.

        Software Zen: delete this;
        Fold With Us![^]

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        stephen hazel
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        forth can be elegant. Like perl, it can also be an absolute dog's breakfast like the rest...

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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

          Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          Depends on what you're used to. Even W finds his wife attractive. X| Over the weekend I glanced at some C code I wrote about ten years ago -- X| A colleague showed me an SQL function he was working on today -- X| I just glanced at an old Ada book I have sitting around (I never learned it) -- X| COBOL, BASIC -- X| Pascal not so much. But C# I really enjoy now. (Even though no one else would format it the way I do.) :~ I think the dividing line is whether or not the language uses BEGIN/END. The fewer "words" and the more symbols the better.

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          • S stephen hazel

            forth can be elegant. Like perl, it can also be an absolute dog's breakfast like the rest...

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            Gary R Wheeler
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            ... Beholder, Beauty Eye of

            Software Zen: delete this;
            Fold With Us![^]

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            • G Gary R Wheeler

              ... Beholder, Beauty Eye of

              Software Zen: delete this;
              Fold With Us![^]

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              stephen hazel
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              sooooooooooo true. Kinda Yoda like... (Like Grover I talk. SORRY!)

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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                andrey dmitriev
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                I found G (LabVIEW) most and really beautiful. Andrey.

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                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                  Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                  Behzad Sedighzadeh
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                  I think C is still the most beautiful Language, though i do most of my job in C#.Yo can build outside world with C.That's enough to say C is the best.

                  Behzad

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                    I need something more official for my wife

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                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                        Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                        RogelioP EX DE HL
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                        Motorola 6809 Assembly... I love PIC kept at the simple 8 bit level :-\ Then, despite the strong sentiments against: I love Basic Pascal, C & Fortran follow close. -=[ R ]=-

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                        • S stephen hazel

                          forth is prettiest (but not so useful in the long run) c++ is the next prettiest then c then 68000 asm the rest are are an absolute dog's breakfast... X|

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                          BillWoodruff
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                          imho Forth was (is ?) as much a "religion" as a computer language. i used to be "proselytized" by Forth adherents back in the 1980's; they had a gleam in their eye that signified they had found the great revelation : it was clear to me that spreading its "words" was accompanied by a "holy zeal." by the way i have nada against languages with RPN and an explicit stack; for many years PostScript was my bread and butter. but, for me, PostScript was LISP in drag as a printer controller language. with PostScript (as well as Forth and LISP) it's easy to write unmaintainable code that is idiosyncratic to the nth. degree, needlessly recursive, self-re-writing, etc. : all of which, from another perspective can be a very good way for a programmer to write a continuous employment contract for themself forever and ever. :) best, Bill

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                          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                            Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                            dilton_dalton
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                            This is going to date me rather severly, but I have always thought that FORTRAN looked better than other languages. To me, C (and similar languages) looks like a dogs breakfast. The next most attractive language, to me at least, is Pascal or its decendents like Ada or Delphi. You can't build perfect systems out of defective parts. But you can keep the testers busy.

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                            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                              Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                              Paul Zaczkowski
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                              From what I've seen... The Ugly: BrainF**K, Whitespace(hehe), LISP, Haskell, C/C++, PHP, BASIC The Beauty: C#, Java, Javascript, Visual Basic 6.0 (It might not be the most effective language out there, but it can look like pseudo code at times, making easier than hell to read),TI-BASIC, C/C++ I put C/C++ in both, because it really depends on what you're doing. Pieces of it are gorgeous, other pieces not so much. Those are really the only languages I've had experience with, so I won't comment on anything else.

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                              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                                malpeli
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                                RUBY IS BEAUTIFUL, IS PERFECT... YOU SHOULD TRY!

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                                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                  I thought I was taking to Programmers and not romantics.

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                                  cpkilekofp
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                                  Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                  I thought I was taking to Programmers and not romantics.

                                  That would be "hedonists", thank you...and I remind you that the first web porn sites were first patronized by web programming geeks...so you expected never to get this sort of answer?? :laugh: Those rascallly programmers

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                                  • M Michael Bergman

                                    Christian hinted at it: we tend to "feel" code is beautiful if it is well structured (or if you want to be sexist about it: well stacked!) and code which is not structured is ugly. But we do this in other areas of life as well: a flower bed which is looked after is pleasant to look at while an untended flower bed overrun with weeds is ugly. I suppose you could call BASIC, the weeds of programming languages.

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                                    cpkilekofp
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                                    Beautiful code is often independent of language. I've seen gorgeous code in visual basic and absolutely horrendous code in C. Of course, I've never ever seen beautiful COBOL...wonder why that is....

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                                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                      Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                                      neilw20
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                                      I once used Forth. At first it appeared like a really neat way to make an instant program. :omg: Just like using my favorite HP RPN calculator which I still love. :) Forth has/had 2 stacks which added to the confusion.:confused: Problem was, you made a great bit of code that worked, and 2 days later could not understand or enhance your program. It became gibberish. :(( HP calculator program has same problem, but for a transient program application like an instant vector rotation or weird conversion it is great. It just can't speak or spell, and neither can I. C,C++,Delphi,VB are easier to maintain. :) With .asm at least you can make an instant 400MHz data analyzer with a printer port, sans Windows.:suss:

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                                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                        Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                                        cpkilekofp
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                                        For sheer powerful beauty, nothing but Prolog will do, hehehe...everything else is just assembler writ large.

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                                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                          Does Code written in some languages appear more "beautiful" than other languages? Granted, there is an element of developer there too. But ignoring the developer, do code in some languages prone to appear more "ugly" than in some other languages. For example, to me code written in Java/C#/Python/JavaScript appear aesthetically more pleasing than that in Objective C or Scheme (even though I love Scheme) or Perl. What languages do you find "beautiful" ? or you don't think that there is an aesthetic aspect of a languages?

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                                          clubok
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                                          All the answers supplied so far are clearly wrong. The most beautiful programming language - head and shoulders above the rest - is the Shakespeare Programming Language[^]. The language, used properly, is quite beautiful. However, it does tend to be a little on the verbose side.

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