updating ma skillz
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d@nish wrote:
I am working in VB6
You have my sympathies. But I have to ask, what the heck are you working in this day and age that's being done in VB6?!!! Please tell me its legacy support and not something new...
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Please tell me its legacy support
Yes. It is maintaining and doing some small enhancements in a legacy application. But somehow I have saved myself from learning VB6. I had to make a new dll and I was surprised that they asked me to make it in .Net. Finally they understood my pain.
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I've recently realized that I'm lagging behind a bit in the technology game. I've been so quagmired with Work and School that I haven't had the time to teach myself something up to date. I've decided to amend that. Any suggestions? WPF & Silverlight are both on my list of must learns. I'm looking for things that are more and more in demand by the market.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Any suggestions?
In the MS world BizTalk, SharePoint and Microsoft Dynamics stuff pay relatively big bucks. Not so easy to learn at home though plus I suspect most techies would find them dull.
Kevin
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How about clipper (nothing to do with sailing)
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I've recently realized that I'm lagging behind a bit in the technology game. I've been so quagmired with Work and School that I haven't had the time to teach myself something up to date. I've decided to amend that. Any suggestions? WPF & Silverlight are both on my list of must learns. I'm looking for things that are more and more in demand by the market.
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I am in the same boat as you are. I just started college vacation, but work still demands a lot of time. I'm also planning on updating my skills, that includes WPF, WCF, Linq and other .NET 3.5 new features (which is beginning to grow old and I still haven't got the chance to grab it).
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I am working in VB6. :( But yesterday I got a hint. I suggested making a new dll for encrypting data in VB6 and I was told: "Make it in .Net. We are migrating soon." :-D
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Congratulations!!!! When I took my current job nearly five years ago, one of the incentives for me was that, although I would start with VB6, I was to move to .NET. Now I've been programming in VB.NET/ASP.NET for several years, though I still have to maintain a couple of legacy apps in VB6. (The horrors...)
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How about clipper (nothing to do with sailing)
Clipper?? LMAO even the most enthusiastic Clipper advocate I know went to Foxpro nearly ten years ago.
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Clipper?? LMAO even the most enthusiastic Clipper advocate I know went to Foxpro nearly ten years ago.
You may well be LMAO (or should that be LYAO), however, as I'm still developing in and supporting it I fail to see the funny side!!!
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You may well be LMAO (or should that be LYAO), however, as I'm still developing in and supporting it I fail to see the funny side!!!
:omg: :wtf: It's true....nothing ever dies. I shouldn't be surprised, in my section of our building the majority of the programmers code in FORTRAN (in support of a VMS app that a bunch of business guys originally wrote using the only compiler that came free with VAX-VMS). Now, you do mean good ole Clipper from (originally) Nantucket Software, the xBase compiler? Is this an internal app, or a product?
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I've recently realized that I'm lagging behind a bit in the technology game. I've been so quagmired with Work and School that I haven't had the time to teach myself something up to date. I've decided to amend that. Any suggestions? WPF & Silverlight are both on my list of must learns. I'm looking for things that are more and more in demand by the market.
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Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa Unix is a Four Letter Word, and Vi is a Two Letter Abbreviation "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib
C# and .NET should be on your list if you don't already know them. They're being used more and more, and it's a more modern paradigm than MFC. I think it's a good use of your effort to focus on skills that are timeless, like Design Patterns, which will still be relevant when Silverlight is tomorrow's COBOL. General texts that improve you software-engineering skills, like Code Complete, are also good. http://www.w3.org/[^] has free tutorials on the latest web technologies. This is one of the main organizations that sets Web standards, so you can probably depend on the accuracy of their tutorials.
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You may well be LMAO (or should that be LYAO), however, as I'm still developing in and supporting it I fail to see the funny side!!!
developer6 wrote:
I'm still developing in and supporting it
Wow, a clipper programmer who hasn't moved over to VO, I'm impressed! Good move :-D .
developer6 wrote:
I fail to see the funny side!!!
Sympathies. Many years ago I was recruited to write C code to integrate into a clipper program & ended up working quite a lot in clipper as well. After a while the whole shop moved over to VO X| Never did understand why the language allowed the caller to decide whether or not to pass parameters by value or by reference :confused: .
T-Mac-Oz "When I'm ruler of the universe ... I'm working on it, I'm working on it. I'm just as frustrated as you are. It turns out to be a non-trivial problem." - Linus Torvalds
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Mycroft Holmes wrote:
badly designed systems enterprise has ever been landed with.
paying $80 to $110 (USA) an hour for SAS talent. SAS has an IDE that looks very close to the first generation FORTRAN IDE's when they moved forward from the command prompt. That being said statisticians love SAS. I work with SAS programmers who use brief to edit code and PREFER THE COMMAND LINE. But SAS offers many utilities for statisticians to analyze large amounts of data "proc survey means" and it will be a player for quite a few years. ---NOTE--- When looking for SAS job, you don’t' apply like you are a "sas" programmer but rather you are an analyst in some subject matter universe (like morbidity and mortality). That being said we interviewed a lady just out of college who played with SAS for her thesis and we are willing to offer her $60k and we are cheap basturds.
MrPlankton
(bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."
(good guy)"Which is where?"
(bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
Dean Koontz, The Good GuyMrPlankton wrote:
SAS has an IDE that looks very close to the first generation FORTRAN IDE's when they moved forward from the command prompt.
Perhaps y'all should give SAS Enterprise Guide a try.
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I've recently realized that I'm lagging behind a bit in the technology game. I've been so quagmired with Work and School that I haven't had the time to teach myself something up to date. I've decided to amend that. Any suggestions? WPF & Silverlight are both on my list of must learns. I'm looking for things that are more and more in demand by the market.
Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful
Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa Unix is a Four Letter Word, and Vi is a Two Letter Abbreviation "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib
WPF Tons of stuff to learn, just pick an area and dig in. Parts of it remind me of handcoding Postscript ("m 20,30 ..."), handling templates and making good user controls can be good places to start digging. Not for the faint of heart or declaratively challenged.
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Congratulations!!!! When I took my current job nearly five years ago, one of the incentives for me was that, although I would start with VB6, I was to move to .NET. Now I've been programming in VB.NET/ASP.NET for several years, though I still have to maintain a couple of legacy apps in VB6. (The horrors...)
For me its the other way round. Started off with .Net 2.0 and then moved to another project in VB6. But I can see my good old .Net days back.
C isn't that hard: void (*(*f[])())() defines f as an array of unspecified size, of pointers to functions that return pointers to functions that return void "Always program as if the person who will be maintaining your program is a violent psychopath that knows where you live." - Martin Golding
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d@nish wrote:
I am working in VB6
You have my sympathies. But I have to ask, what the heck are you working in this day and age that's being done in VB6?!!! Please tell me its legacy support and not something new...
Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful
Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa Unix is a Four Letter Word, and Vi is a Two Letter Abbreviation "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib
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Yes. If you have done MFC programming you will be amazed at how much functionality Qt has and how easy it is to build an application that will run on windows, mac and linux without code modifications.
John
John M. Drescher wrote:
If you have done MFC programming you will be amazed at how much functionality Qt has and how easy it is to build an application that will run on windows, mac and linux without code modifications.
Well, MFC has been deader than... just about any dead guy you can think of for years now. And thank heavens for that. But Qt apps run really, really slowly on windows (2000, XP, Server '03, never tried Vista) in my experience. Learn Windows Forms if you want to learn something traditional, in-demand, and useful for Microsoft-y platforms, or WPF if you want to look at the hot new kid at school. Actually, Silverlight is high on my list of things to learn, too... but then again, so's Flex. Judging solely on the number of books on the shelf at Barnes & Noble compared to last year, Flex is getting hot, WPF & C# 3.0 are staying hot, and web frameworks in general (Rails, Django, etc) never go out of style. -Phil
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I've recently realized that I'm lagging behind a bit in the technology game. I've been so quagmired with Work and School that I haven't had the time to teach myself something up to date. I've decided to amend that. Any suggestions? WPF & Silverlight are both on my list of must learns. I'm looking for things that are more and more in demand by the market.
Don't forget to vote if the response was helpful
Sig history "dad" Ishmail-Samuel Mustafa Unix is a Four Letter Word, and Vi is a Two Letter Abbreviation "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance" Ali Ibn Abi Talib
start to learn in details c# from 1.0 to uncomplete 4.0, then understand difference between .net 2.0 and 3.0, and after that skip wpf and silverlight and learn java and javascript in details and .net 3.5 in parallel. When feel good, start wpf. regards
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MrPlankton wrote:
SAS has an IDE that looks very close to the first generation FORTRAN IDE's when they moved forward from the command prompt.
Perhaps y'all should give SAS Enterprise Guide a try.
I'm a sas newbe, thanks for the link. I will give it a try!
MrPlankton
(bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."
(good guy)"Which is where?"
(bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
Dean Koontz, The Good Guy -
John M. Drescher wrote:
If you have done MFC programming you will be amazed at how much functionality Qt has and how easy it is to build an application that will run on windows, mac and linux without code modifications.
Well, MFC has been deader than... just about any dead guy you can think of for years now. And thank heavens for that. But Qt apps run really, really slowly on windows (2000, XP, Server '03, never tried Vista) in my experience. Learn Windows Forms if you want to learn something traditional, in-demand, and useful for Microsoft-y platforms, or WPF if you want to look at the hot new kid at school. Actually, Silverlight is high on my list of things to learn, too... but then again, so's Flex. Judging solely on the number of books on the shelf at Barnes & Noble compared to last year, Flex is getting hot, WPF & C# 3.0 are staying hot, and web frameworks in general (Rails, Django, etc) never go out of style. -Phil
Phil Vacca wrote:
But Qt apps run really, really slowly on windows (2000, XP, Server '03, never tried Vista) in my experience
I am surprised to hear you say that, having never had a problem myself. The XML DOM parser is horribly slow but the rest is fine. That said I do tend to use standard C++ for containers, streams, file access and general grunt work rather than the Qt equivalents. So Qt is really just for the GUI and it is difficult to see how the speed of dialog code really matters.