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I HATE Sharepoint programming. But it is a skill in demand. There little in the way of good documentation and examples, plus Sharepoint is buggy and debugging is brutal. You spend more time figuring out plumbing then you do writing code. I'm not sure if WPF and Silverlight are going to take off. I'm still waiting to see if that happens with them. Not everything MS pushes pans out like ASP.Net has.
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ToddHileHoffer wrote:
I HATE Sharepoint programming
That makes 2 of us. I spent 6 months on that crap before a sprocket came loose and I started banging my head against the wall in frustration.
ToddHileHoffer wrote:
There little in the way of good documentation and examples
Nonexistent is more like it.
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Always a favorite, but the last time I used C out of academia was when I was working in telecommunications.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
but the last time I used C
That is up to you (at least I hope :rolleyes: ). I use
C(orC-likeC++) almost everyday. :)If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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I've recently realized that I'm lagging behind a bit in the technology game. I've been so quagmired with Work and School that I haven't had the time to teach myself something up to date. I've decided to amend that. Any suggestions? WPF & Silverlight are both on my list of must learns. I'm looking for things that are more and more in demand by the market.
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I've been reading and hearing about how SAS and SAP developers are in demand. I don't even know where to start learning that stuff, any ideas?
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SAS seemed to be jolly expensive. You could learn R, R is free and seems to be regarded well. http://www.r-project.org/
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
but the last time I used C
That is up to you (at least I hope :rolleyes: ). I use
C(orC-likeC++) almost everyday. :)If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
[My articles]My average day consists of C++, C#, HTML and JavaScript and obviously lots and lots of SQL and T-SQL.
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If you're interested in web programming the new ASP.NET MVC architecture sure is purty. I would look into the following goop: C# Desktop application -> Web Service ->
Business Layer -> DatabaseWeb Application (WebForms or MVC) ->Business Layer -> DatabaseIn this case the Business Layer and Database can be shared/reused by both UI's. That should keep you busy for a while :DTodd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
C# Desktop application -> Web Service -> Business Layer -> Database
Been doing that for some time now :)
Todd Smith wrote:
Web Application (WebForms or MVC) -> Business Layer -> Database
Need to change webforms to MVC, though to be honest (and potentially thick) from what I read I really couldn't see the gains
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I actually downloaded what I needed for Ruby just the other day. Erlang I've already worked on (I worked for the Telecomm industry :)) I wouldn't know what to comment about WPF/Silverlight as I haven't started working on them. I gave WPF a quick whirl about a year ago but I was too busy with work to get deeper into it.
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d@nish wrote:
I am working in VB6
You have my sympathies. But I have to ask, what the heck are you working in this day and age that's being done in VB6?!!! Please tell me its legacy support and not something new...
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Please tell me its legacy support
Yes. It is maintaining and doing some small enhancements in a legacy application. But somehow I have saved myself from learning VB6. I had to make a new dll and I was surprised that they asked me to make it in .Net. Finally they understood my pain.
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I've recently realized that I'm lagging behind a bit in the technology game. I've been so quagmired with Work and School that I haven't had the time to teach myself something up to date. I've decided to amend that. Any suggestions? WPF & Silverlight are both on my list of must learns. I'm looking for things that are more and more in demand by the market.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Any suggestions?
In the MS world BizTalk, SharePoint and Microsoft Dynamics stuff pay relatively big bucks. Not so easy to learn at home though plus I suspect most techies would find them dull.
Kevin
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How about clipper (nothing to do with sailing)
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I've recently realized that I'm lagging behind a bit in the technology game. I've been so quagmired with Work and School that I haven't had the time to teach myself something up to date. I've decided to amend that. Any suggestions? WPF & Silverlight are both on my list of must learns. I'm looking for things that are more and more in demand by the market.
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I am in the same boat as you are. I just started college vacation, but work still demands a lot of time. I'm also planning on updating my skills, that includes WPF, WCF, Linq and other .NET 3.5 new features (which is beginning to grow old and I still haven't got the chance to grab it).
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I am working in VB6. :( But yesterday I got a hint. I suggested making a new dll for encrypting data in VB6 and I was told: "Make it in .Net. We are migrating soon." :-D
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Congratulations!!!! When I took my current job nearly five years ago, one of the incentives for me was that, although I would start with VB6, I was to move to .NET. Now I've been programming in VB.NET/ASP.NET for several years, though I still have to maintain a couple of legacy apps in VB6. (The horrors...)
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How about clipper (nothing to do with sailing)
Clipper?? LMAO even the most enthusiastic Clipper advocate I know went to Foxpro nearly ten years ago.
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Clipper?? LMAO even the most enthusiastic Clipper advocate I know went to Foxpro nearly ten years ago.
You may well be LMAO (or should that be LYAO), however, as I'm still developing in and supporting it I fail to see the funny side!!!
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You may well be LMAO (or should that be LYAO), however, as I'm still developing in and supporting it I fail to see the funny side!!!
:omg: :wtf: It's true....nothing ever dies. I shouldn't be surprised, in my section of our building the majority of the programmers code in FORTRAN (in support of a VMS app that a bunch of business guys originally wrote using the only compiler that came free with VAX-VMS). Now, you do mean good ole Clipper from (originally) Nantucket Software, the xBase compiler? Is this an internal app, or a product?
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I've recently realized that I'm lagging behind a bit in the technology game. I've been so quagmired with Work and School that I haven't had the time to teach myself something up to date. I've decided to amend that. Any suggestions? WPF & Silverlight are both on my list of must learns. I'm looking for things that are more and more in demand by the market.
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C# and .NET should be on your list if you don't already know them. They're being used more and more, and it's a more modern paradigm than MFC. I think it's a good use of your effort to focus on skills that are timeless, like Design Patterns, which will still be relevant when Silverlight is tomorrow's COBOL. General texts that improve you software-engineering skills, like Code Complete, are also good. http://www.w3.org/[^] has free tutorials on the latest web technologies. This is one of the main organizations that sets Web standards, so you can probably depend on the accuracy of their tutorials.
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You may well be LMAO (or should that be LYAO), however, as I'm still developing in and supporting it I fail to see the funny side!!!
developer6 wrote:
I'm still developing in and supporting it
Wow, a clipper programmer who hasn't moved over to VO, I'm impressed! Good move :-D .
developer6 wrote:
I fail to see the funny side!!!
Sympathies. Many years ago I was recruited to write C code to integrate into a clipper program & ended up working quite a lot in clipper as well. After a while the whole shop moved over to VO X| Never did understand why the language allowed the caller to decide whether or not to pass parameters by value or by reference :confused: .
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Mycroft Holmes wrote:
badly designed systems enterprise has ever been landed with.
paying $80 to $110 (USA) an hour for SAS talent. SAS has an IDE that looks very close to the first generation FORTRAN IDE's when they moved forward from the command prompt. That being said statisticians love SAS. I work with SAS programmers who use brief to edit code and PREFER THE COMMAND LINE. But SAS offers many utilities for statisticians to analyze large amounts of data "proc survey means" and it will be a player for quite a few years. ---NOTE--- When looking for SAS job, you don’t' apply like you are a "sas" programmer but rather you are an analyst in some subject matter universe (like morbidity and mortality). That being said we interviewed a lady just out of college who played with SAS for her thesis and we are willing to offer her $60k and we are cheap basturds.
MrPlankton
(bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."
(good guy)"Which is where?"
(bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
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SAS has an IDE that looks very close to the first generation FORTRAN IDE's when they moved forward from the command prompt.
Perhaps y'all should give SAS Enterprise Guide a try.
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I've recently realized that I'm lagging behind a bit in the technology game. I've been so quagmired with Work and School that I haven't had the time to teach myself something up to date. I've decided to amend that. Any suggestions? WPF & Silverlight are both on my list of must learns. I'm looking for things that are more and more in demand by the market.
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WPF Tons of stuff to learn, just pick an area and dig in. Parts of it remind me of handcoding Postscript ("m 20,30 ..."), handling templates and making good user controls can be good places to start digging. Not for the faint of heart or declaratively challenged.
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Congratulations!!!! When I took my current job nearly five years ago, one of the incentives for me was that, although I would start with VB6, I was to move to .NET. Now I've been programming in VB.NET/ASP.NET for several years, though I still have to maintain a couple of legacy apps in VB6. (The horrors...)
For me its the other way round. Started off with .Net 2.0 and then moved to another project in VB6. But I can see my good old .Net days back.
C isn't that hard: void (*(*f[])())() defines f as an array of unspecified size, of pointers to functions that return pointers to functions that return void "Always program as if the person who will be maintaining your program is a violent psychopath that knows where you live." - Martin Golding