It's "Unix" if it has the "x" sound...
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Yeah, right. If they put as much energy into making Linux a viable desktop OS instead of farting around with crap like that, Linux (and it's users) would be a lot better off. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
John - true. M$ is waning, but we need a viable alternative. I had Linux on my las PC with dual boot then never used it :( Elaine (shamefully windows using tigress) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
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Klaus Probst wrote: You (like so many other people...) should really do try to get a life. *grin* well, what else would you expect a guy whose sig links to a VB site to say ? Christian We're just observing the seasonal migration from VB to VC. Most of these birds will be killed by predators or will die of hunger. Only the best will survive - Tomasz Sowinski 29-07-2002 ( on the number of newbie posters in the VC forum ) Cats, and most other animals apart from mad cows can write fully functional vb code. - Simon Walton - 6-Aug-2002
Christian Graus wrote: *grin* well, what else would you expect a guy whose sig links to a VB site to say ? Interesting. So if I were to link to, say, www.hardcore-zealot-cplusplus-coders-rule-besides-there-is-only-one-true-language.com you'd feel all tingly and warm inside and clap in delight as I bring out the high grade incendiaries? ___________ Klaus [vbbox.com]
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But doing this type of stuff is INTERESTING!!! Actually making a product usable is BORING. :( Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
Porting Linux to a toaster would not be nearly as fun as a slick GUI that blasts Windows back to the stone-age. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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"It's "Unix" if it has the "x" sound in it's name - the Xbox must be Unix then." from a discussion on slashdot.org :-D:-D Yep!! They've managed to port Linux to the Xbox!!! :-D:-D:-D xbox-linux[^] Call the Linux crowd what you like (and I'm sure we all have done) but they're nothing if not persistent! !!Long Live Unix!! *think about it: only Windows could tolerate something as crappy as VB X| **I like Windoze too. Really! bibamus, edamus, cras moriemur
[eat, drink, for tomorrow we die]
Brian Azzopardi wrote: only Windows could tolerate something as crappy as VB That's not entirely true: http://www.janus-software.com[^]:rolleyes: David Stone But Clinton wasn't a predictable, boring, aging, lying, eloquent, maintainer-of-the-status-quo. He was a predictable, boring-but-trying-to-look-hip, aging-and-fat-but-seemingly-oblivious-to-it, lying-but-in-sadly-blatant-ways, not-eloquent-but-trying-to-make-up-for-it-by-talking-even-more, bringer-in-of-scary-and-potentially-dangerous-new-policies. And there was also Al Gore. It just wasn't *right*. Shog9
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: making Linux a viable desktop :-D You gotta be joking right? I am a Linux fan but I don't think Linux will really make it to the desktop. Linux is a geek's OS. Let's leave it like that and not remove all the fun from it. bibamus, edamus, cras moriemur
[eat, drink, for tomorrow we die]
You can make it a desktop for the masses and still leave the fun it. That was Microsoft's mistake. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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John - true. M$ is waning, but we need a viable alternative. I had Linux on my las PC with dual boot then never used it :( Elaine (shamefully windows using tigress) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?
What you need is a 2nd PC with nothing but Linux on it. Force yourself to use it once a day (try to find a way to do something on Linux that you can do on Windows). My biggest problem is finding games my wife will play. She's currently into the online games in the MSN zone, and that web site doesn't understand non-IE browsers. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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Christian Graus wrote: *grin* well, what else would you expect a guy whose sig links to a VB site to say ? Interesting. So if I were to link to, say, www.hardcore-zealot-cplusplus-coders-rule-besides-there-is-only-one-true-language.com you'd feel all tingly and warm inside and clap in delight as I bring out the high grade incendiaries? ___________ Klaus [vbbox.com]
Klaus Probst wrote: So if I were to link to, say, www.hardcore-zealot-cplusplus-coders-rule-besides-there-is-only-one-true-language.com you'd feel all tingly and warm inside and clap in delight as I bring out the high grade incendiaries? Not at all. Python is a pretty cool language. C# has it's place, athough it's not a *real* language for desktop app development yet. It's only VB that is a joke, not every other language bar C++. But that wasn't my point, my point was that you lost the opportinty to comment as an independent observer by the link in your sig. I'm not suggesting you claimed otherwise, it just made your comment unsurprising. Christian We're just observing the seasonal migration from VB to VC. Most of these birds will be killed by predators or will die of hunger. Only the best will survive - Tomasz Sowinski 29-07-2002 ( on the number of newbie posters in the VC forum ) Cats, and most other animals apart from mad cows can write fully functional vb code. - Simon Walton - 6-Aug-2002
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Klaus Probst wrote: So if I were to link to, say, www.hardcore-zealot-cplusplus-coders-rule-besides-there-is-only-one-true-language.com you'd feel all tingly and warm inside and clap in delight as I bring out the high grade incendiaries? Not at all. Python is a pretty cool language. C# has it's place, athough it's not a *real* language for desktop app development yet. It's only VB that is a joke, not every other language bar C++. But that wasn't my point, my point was that you lost the opportinty to comment as an independent observer by the link in your sig. I'm not suggesting you claimed otherwise, it just made your comment unsurprising. Christian We're just observing the seasonal migration from VB to VC. Most of these birds will be killed by predators or will die of hunger. Only the best will survive - Tomasz Sowinski 29-07-2002 ( on the number of newbie posters in the VC forum ) Cats, and most other animals apart from mad cows can write fully functional vb code. - Simon Walton - 6-Aug-2002
Christian Graus wrote: Python is a pretty cool language So sez you. C# has it's place, athough it's not a *real* language for desktop app development yet So sez you. It's only VB that is a joke So sez you. my point was that you lost the opportinty to comment as an independent observer by the link in your sig Judging from your sig, I suppose I must assume you're absolutely impartial. Or did I miss the sarcasm in that quote? I'm not suggesting you claimed otherwise, it just made your comment unsurprising. Define "unsurprising". Do you mean you expected to be shocked, or just amused? Or maybe satisfied somehow? If this had been a comment about Perl or BrainF*ck, do you think I would have replied with something else, perhaps something like "yeah man, you're right!!1!! u r00lz!!!1!", mmmm? ___________ Klaus [vbbox.com]
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Christian Graus wrote: Python is a pretty cool language So sez you. C# has it's place, athough it's not a *real* language for desktop app development yet So sez you. It's only VB that is a joke So sez you. my point was that you lost the opportinty to comment as an independent observer by the link in your sig Judging from your sig, I suppose I must assume you're absolutely impartial. Or did I miss the sarcasm in that quote? I'm not suggesting you claimed otherwise, it just made your comment unsurprising. Define "unsurprising". Do you mean you expected to be shocked, or just amused? Or maybe satisfied somehow? If this had been a comment about Perl or BrainF*ck, do you think I would have replied with something else, perhaps something like "yeah man, you're right!!1!! u r00lz!!!1!", mmmm? ___________ Klaus [vbbox.com]
Klaus Probst wrote: So sez you. Apparently. Who else's opinion can I reasonably hope to represent ? Klaus Probst wrote: Judging from your sig, I suppose I must assume you're absolutely impartial. I never claimed to be. This is getting dumb. Klaus Probst wrote: Define "unsurprising". You're either too dumb to program in C++, or you simply got taught a dumb language and you've stuck with it. In either case, you obviously use VB, somehow, and so it's not surprising that you'd make a big deal about my comment. Klaus Probst wrote: f this had been a comment about Perl or BrainF*ck, do you think I would have replied with something else, perhaps something like "yeah man, you're right!!1!! u r00lz!!!1!", mmmm? Actually, the more you reply to me, the more I think that you're just a bit of a moron. I'm not suggesting every VB programmer is dumb, or every VB program is bad, but even people in this place ( i.e. where I work ) who code VB say they'd prefer not to hire VB programmers, because the odds are simply not good. Beyond that, I will just point out that the depth of my feeling regarding how bad VB is ( which comes from experience ), is something that you are drawing out of me with your successive comments, I did not set out to attack *anyone*, but like many other VB programmers, you seem determined to take any comment to the nth degree. I can only presume that this is because many VB programmers deep down yearn for a credibility that does not come from using toy languages. That is your problem, not mine. Christian We're just observing the seasonal migration from VB to VC. Most of these birds will be killed by predators or will die of hunger. Only the best will survive - Tomasz Sowinski 29-07-2002 ( on the number of newbie posters in the VC forum ) Cats, and most other animals apart from mad cows can write fully functional vb code. - Simon Walton - 6-Aug-2002
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Klaus Probst wrote: So sez you. Apparently. Who else's opinion can I reasonably hope to represent ? Klaus Probst wrote: Judging from your sig, I suppose I must assume you're absolutely impartial. I never claimed to be. This is getting dumb. Klaus Probst wrote: Define "unsurprising". You're either too dumb to program in C++, or you simply got taught a dumb language and you've stuck with it. In either case, you obviously use VB, somehow, and so it's not surprising that you'd make a big deal about my comment. Klaus Probst wrote: f this had been a comment about Perl or BrainF*ck, do you think I would have replied with something else, perhaps something like "yeah man, you're right!!1!! u r00lz!!!1!", mmmm? Actually, the more you reply to me, the more I think that you're just a bit of a moron. I'm not suggesting every VB programmer is dumb, or every VB program is bad, but even people in this place ( i.e. where I work ) who code VB say they'd prefer not to hire VB programmers, because the odds are simply not good. Beyond that, I will just point out that the depth of my feeling regarding how bad VB is ( which comes from experience ), is something that you are drawing out of me with your successive comments, I did not set out to attack *anyone*, but like many other VB programmers, you seem determined to take any comment to the nth degree. I can only presume that this is because many VB programmers deep down yearn for a credibility that does not come from using toy languages. That is your problem, not mine. Christian We're just observing the seasonal migration from VB to VC. Most of these birds will be killed by predators or will die of hunger. Only the best will survive - Tomasz Sowinski 29-07-2002 ( on the number of newbie posters in the VC forum ) Cats, and most other animals apart from mad cows can write fully functional vb code. - Simon Walton - 6-Aug-2002
Christian Graus wrote: Apparently. Who else's opinion can I reasonably hope to represent ? You may be an above average C++ programmer (I guess) but you sure don't know how to read, do you? You're either too dumb to program in C++, or you simply got taught a dumb language and you've stuck with it. In either case, you obviously use VB, somehow, and so it's not surprising that you'd make a big deal about my comment. I didn't get "taught" anything and I'm not "stuck" with anything - do you happen to also know the name of my pet cockroach? I doubt it. So your assumptions about me are, once again, incorrect. And I'm not making a "big deal" about your comment, anymore than you made out of mine. I didn't reply to you, IIRC. But you just had to get a quippy in, didn't you? Actually, the more you reply to me, the more I think that you're just a bit of a moron Then I guess we're all in agreement here, because I was just thinking the same about you. I'm not suggesting every VB programmer is dumb, or every VB program is bad, but even people in this place ( i.e. where I work ) who code VB say they'd prefer not to hire VB programmers, because the odds are simply not good. Let me translate this for you: I don't like to generalize, and I know it's not smart, but I do it anyway. It makes me look smarter than I am. I think. Beyond that, I will just point out that the depth of my feeling regarding how bad VB is ( which comes from experience ), is something that you are drawing out of me with your successive comments Oh my, am I getting you all flustery and all? What? A "VB programmer" that can actually scrap with you? What is the world coming to!? I did not set out to attack *anyone* Well, you are now. And you're having second thoughts about it? but like many other VB programmers, you seem determined to take any comment to the nth degree. I can only presume that this is because many VB programmers deep down yearn for a credibility that does not come from using toy languages. That is your problem, not mine. ROFL! Yearn for credibility, indeed. Thanks for your insight. It must come from writing all that C++ code. I should try that sometime... oh, wait - never mind. So, do you have any more quippy and interesting things to say tonight, or shall we call it a thread? ___________ Klaus [vbbox.com]
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Christian Graus wrote: Apparently. Who else's opinion can I reasonably hope to represent ? You may be an above average C++ programmer (I guess) but you sure don't know how to read, do you? You're either too dumb to program in C++, or you simply got taught a dumb language and you've stuck with it. In either case, you obviously use VB, somehow, and so it's not surprising that you'd make a big deal about my comment. I didn't get "taught" anything and I'm not "stuck" with anything - do you happen to also know the name of my pet cockroach? I doubt it. So your assumptions about me are, once again, incorrect. And I'm not making a "big deal" about your comment, anymore than you made out of mine. I didn't reply to you, IIRC. But you just had to get a quippy in, didn't you? Actually, the more you reply to me, the more I think that you're just a bit of a moron Then I guess we're all in agreement here, because I was just thinking the same about you. I'm not suggesting every VB programmer is dumb, or every VB program is bad, but even people in this place ( i.e. where I work ) who code VB say they'd prefer not to hire VB programmers, because the odds are simply not good. Let me translate this for you: I don't like to generalize, and I know it's not smart, but I do it anyway. It makes me look smarter than I am. I think. Beyond that, I will just point out that the depth of my feeling regarding how bad VB is ( which comes from experience ), is something that you are drawing out of me with your successive comments Oh my, am I getting you all flustery and all? What? A "VB programmer" that can actually scrap with you? What is the world coming to!? I did not set out to attack *anyone* Well, you are now. And you're having second thoughts about it? but like many other VB programmers, you seem determined to take any comment to the nth degree. I can only presume that this is because many VB programmers deep down yearn for a credibility that does not come from using toy languages. That is your problem, not mine. ROFL! Yearn for credibility, indeed. Thanks for your insight. It must come from writing all that C++ code. I should try that sometime... oh, wait - never mind. So, do you have any more quippy and interesting things to say tonight, or shall we call it a thread? ___________ Klaus [vbbox.com]
*yawn* thanks for sharing. Christian We're just observing the seasonal migration from VB to VC. Most of these birds will be killed by predators or will die of hunger. Only the best will survive - Tomasz Sowinski 29-07-2002 ( on the number of newbie posters in the VC forum ) Cats, and most other animals apart from mad cows can write fully functional vb code. - Simon Walton - 6-Aug-2002
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*yawn* thanks for sharing. Christian We're just observing the seasonal migration from VB to VC. Most of these birds will be killed by predators or will die of hunger. Only the best will survive - Tomasz Sowinski 29-07-2002 ( on the number of newbie posters in the VC forum ) Cats, and most other animals apart from mad cows can write fully functional vb code. - Simon Walton - 6-Aug-2002
Christian Graus wrote: *yawn* thanks for sharing. BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Wow. My opinion of you just went up a notch d00d! Keep up the good work. ___________ Klaus [vbbox.com]
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Christian Graus wrote: *yawn* thanks for sharing. BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Wow. My opinion of you just went up a notch d00d! Keep up the good work. ___________ Klaus [vbbox.com]
Klaus Probst wrote: My opinion of you just went up a notch d00d! Well, now, doesn't that just mean the world to me..... I often wonder, what's more important - having lots of members on a site, or maintaining a level of quality for who joins ? I knew when I saw the MSDN mag ad that the lowest common denominator would suddenly become less than what it has been. It took a while, I guess. Christian We're just observing the seasonal migration from VB to VC. Most of these birds will be killed by predators or will die of hunger. Only the best will survive - Tomasz Sowinski 29-07-2002 ( on the number of newbie posters in the VC forum ) Cats, and most other animals apart from mad cows can write fully functional vb code. - Simon Walton - 6-Aug-2002
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Klaus Probst wrote: My opinion of you just went up a notch d00d! Well, now, doesn't that just mean the world to me..... I often wonder, what's more important - having lots of members on a site, or maintaining a level of quality for who joins ? I knew when I saw the MSDN mag ad that the lowest common denominator would suddenly become less than what it has been. It took a while, I guess. Christian We're just observing the seasonal migration from VB to VC. Most of these birds will be killed by predators or will die of hunger. Only the best will survive - Tomasz Sowinski 29-07-2002 ( on the number of newbie posters in the VC forum ) Cats, and most other animals apart from mad cows can write fully functional vb code. - Simon Walton - 6-Aug-2002
Christian Graus wrote: I often wonder, what's more important - having lots of members on a site, or maintaining a level of quality for who joins ? or maybe he wrote: I want my little playground with people who think exactly the same way I do You just keep repeating that to yourself, and maybe one day it will come true. ___________ Klaus [vbbox.com]
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Christian Graus wrote: I often wonder, what's more important - having lots of members on a site, or maintaining a level of quality for who joins ? or maybe he wrote: I want my little playground with people who think exactly the same way I do You just keep repeating that to yourself, and maybe one day it will come true. ___________ Klaus [vbbox.com]
Klaus Probst wrote: You just keep repeating that to yourself, and maybe one day it will come true. Wow - that's even more mature than 'I know you are, but what am I ?'. Way to go. Hint: I think you're an idiot for trying to get a rise out of me and then complaining when I bit. At this point I'm just gaining pleasure out of being shown by example that there are people who are able to use computers, and even write code, who for all that have no brains at all. Christian We're just observing the seasonal migration from VB to VC. Most of these birds will be killed by predators or will die of hunger. Only the best will survive - Tomasz Sowinski 29-07-2002 ( on the number of newbie posters in the VC forum ) Cats, and most other animals apart from mad cows can write fully functional vb code. - Simon Walton - 6-Aug-2002
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Klaus Probst wrote: You just keep repeating that to yourself, and maybe one day it will come true. Wow - that's even more mature than 'I know you are, but what am I ?'. Way to go. Hint: I think you're an idiot for trying to get a rise out of me and then complaining when I bit. At this point I'm just gaining pleasure out of being shown by example that there are people who are able to use computers, and even write code, who for all that have no brains at all. Christian We're just observing the seasonal migration from VB to VC. Most of these birds will be killed by predators or will die of hunger. Only the best will survive - Tomasz Sowinski 29-07-2002 ( on the number of newbie posters in the VC forum ) Cats, and most other animals apart from mad cows can write fully functional vb code. - Simon Walton - 6-Aug-2002
Hint: I think you're an idiot for trying to get a rise out of me and then complaining when I bit. I'm sorry, we must be talking about some other thread. One where you said "yawn" or some such in a classic childish attempt at escaping a can of whoop ass you opened all by yourself. Christian Graus wrote: there are people who are able to use computers, and even write code, who for all that have no brains at all. Smooth! But coming from you, I'll take that as a compliment. ___________ Klaus [vbbox.com]
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Brian Azzopardi wrote: only Windows could tolerate something as crappy as VB That's not entirely true: http://www.janus-software.com[^]:rolleyes: David Stone But Clinton wasn't a predictable, boring, aging, lying, eloquent, maintainer-of-the-status-quo. He was a predictable, boring-but-trying-to-look-hip, aging-and-fat-but-seemingly-oblivious-to-it, lying-but-in-sadly-blatant-ways, not-eloquent-but-trying-to-make-up-for-it-by-talking-even-more, bringer-in-of-scary-and-potentially-dangerous-new-policies. And there was also Al Gore. It just wasn't *right*. Shog9
Damn! VB disease is spreading ;P Without struggle, there is no progress
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: making Linux a viable desktop :-D You gotta be joking right? I am a Linux fan but I don't think Linux will really make it to the desktop. Linux is a geek's OS. Let's leave it like that and not remove all the fun from it. bibamus, edamus, cras moriemur
[eat, drink, for tomorrow we die]