Consultant / contract programmers how are you found?
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I don't need anything but our customers sometimes do and I want to send them to a respectable place or at least give them a good idea of how to find developers.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
"We're not in respectable places." -- Gollum
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Looks like a recruitment site. The people I need to give a pointer to are interested only in small very short term stuff that isn't a job and doesn't require the developer to have more than experience, an email address and a bit of spare time. I was hoping for something like rent a coder but more respectable. :)
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
Tax free, wink wink nudge nudge?
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Yeah which is why I was looking for some kind of super site or something, not specifically referring any particular person but leaving it up to them. I don't want any involvement in this at all except answering questions for the developer on our api support forum specifically if they need help which, if they are experienced enough, they really shouldn't need much. Trouble is all the developers using our api now are either making commercial apps or doing in-house stuff. You're right though, you try to do a good deed for developers looking for a little money and sure as anything it will probably end up backfiring on me. Maybe just best to abandon the idea entirely.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
I've been looking for the same thing, but the other way around. I've seen a couple of sites like rentacoder, but the bidding is too much work and the hourly rates are too low. I've had some luck doing work and telling the people to pay me if they think the work I did was decent. Right now I make a little extra money customizing software that I sell shrinkwrapped. It would be nice if I could find a way to build that up and stop my day job.
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:) Not exactly what I had in mind, these are business people I'm dealing with. I thought there would be a good place with a lot of out of work programmers or ones who wanted to make some money on the side but I guess the economy isn't bad enough yet. Maybe I'll just refer them to rent a coder after all and be done with it.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
John C wrote:
Maybe I'll just refer them to rent a coder after all and be done with it.
Given rentacoder's reputation, you might be burning your bridges with these folks if you recommend it.
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Where's the best place to direct people looking for .net developers interested in making small utility apps? Besides rent a coder of course, I've heard too many horror stories to be confident in making any suggestions.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
Try Odesk - www.odesk.com
KISS "Keep It Simple, Stupid"
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Try Odesk - www.odesk.com
KISS "Keep It Simple, Stupid"
From their FAQ: "The biggest category is web development, next is software development. " At least they understand that web development isn't software development. :-D
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Yeah which is why I was looking for some kind of super site or something, not specifically referring any particular person but leaving it up to them. I don't want any involvement in this at all except answering questions for the developer on our api support forum specifically if they need help which, if they are experienced enough, they really shouldn't need much. Trouble is all the developers using our api now are either making commercial apps or doing in-house stuff. You're right though, you try to do a good deed for developers looking for a little money and sure as anything it will probably end up backfiring on me. Maybe just best to abandon the idea entirely.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
I've done some small coding projects threw Express personnel, they can usually find someone to do a task..and if they don't, they don't charge.. Speaking from experience, companies can contact them and say I need X, they will attempt to find someone who can accomplish X and then discuss with that person and the company(separately of course) what expectations are.. they can charge a flat rate or by the hour. Also if your company(s) are the types of places that may do this periodically every couple of months, the programmer may still be working with express personnel and they could get the same guy.. if they so chose.
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:) Not exactly what I had in mind, these are business people I'm dealing with. I thought there would be a good place with a lot of out of work programmers or ones who wanted to make some money on the side but I guess the economy isn't bad enough yet. Maybe I'll just refer them to rent a coder after all and be done with it.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
I can recommend GetAFreelancer[^] but they will need to do some filtering. There are good guys :-O there but a whole lot of idiots too. Fair warning -- many of the (old) good guys are moving out as most people seems more interested in the cheapest offer... /Jonas
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Yeah which is why I was looking for some kind of super site or something, not specifically referring any particular person but leaving it up to them. I don't want any involvement in this at all except answering questions for the developer on our api support forum specifically if they need help which, if they are experienced enough, they really shouldn't need much. Trouble is all the developers using our api now are either making commercial apps or doing in-house stuff. You're right though, you try to do a good deed for developers looking for a little money and sure as anything it will probably end up backfiring on me. Maybe just best to abandon the idea entirely.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
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Tax free, wink wink nudge nudge?
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:) Not exactly what I had in mind, these are business people I'm dealing with. I thought there would be a good place with a lot of out of work programmers or ones who wanted to make some money on the side but I guess the economy isn't bad enough yet. Maybe I'll just refer them to rent a coder after all and be done with it.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
I don't think you'll find the kind of site you're looking for. As soon as a cheap good job site with some quality gets a reputation it will be found and used by the "help plz urgentz" people to. :sigh: When I need some extra help I'm either using recommendations, or a local agency that charges the consultant a percentage.
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Where's the best place to direct people looking for .net developers interested in making small utility apps? Besides rent a coder of course, I've heard too many horror stories to be confident in making any suggestions.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
Hello everyone, I personally worked with GAF (GetAFreelancer), its such good. But If you ask me to prefer, I would recommend http://www.scriptlancer.com Its good website, and the charge is less, in addition: you can fine good buyers who are looking for programmer. :-)
In Alla We trust
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Hello everyone, I personally worked with GAF (GetAFreelancer), its such good. But If you ask me to prefer, I would recommend http://www.scriptlancer.com Its good website, and the charge is less, in addition: you can fine good buyers who are looking for programmer. :-)
In Alla We trust
Sorry, spelling mistake: Its http://www.scriptlance.com/
In Alla We trust
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Where's the best place to direct people looking for .net developers interested in making small utility apps? Besides rent a coder of course, I've heard too many horror stories to be confident in making any suggestions.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
Have you tried ODESK.COM or ELANCE.COM ?
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It's not for me, it's for any one of our customers who are located globally.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
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Where's the best place to direct people looking for .net developers interested in making small utility apps? Besides rent a coder of course, I've heard too many horror stories to be confident in making any suggestions.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
If it was me I would give them the list of sites that people here have mentioned, and then stay well away. It is very hard to find good developers, and even harder to find ones that are good at doing small jobs. An hour long meeting (maybe on the phone) creating two days or so of work that gets done over a weekend and delivered on Monday morning etc is a very difficult project type, and takes the right kind of person to deliver it. Often you end up with the client expecting more than what is delivered etc. Then they expect free support for the next ten years. By the time you go through all this with the client beforehand you'd have used half the budget to start with. Personally I've done a number of these types of projects, most have gone OK, but 75% of them are after another developer has tried and failed. If you recommend someone that is always going to reflect on you. If you say this is a difficult thing to do and give them the sites then you've certainly done your bit to help and if it alls goes wrong you shouldn't end up looking bad.
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Yeah which is why I was looking for some kind of super site or something, not specifically referring any particular person but leaving it up to them. I don't want any involvement in this at all except answering questions for the developer on our api support forum specifically if they need help which, if they are experienced enough, they really shouldn't need much. Trouble is all the developers using our api now are either making commercial apps or doing in-house stuff. You're right though, you try to do a good deed for developers looking for a little money and sure as anything it will probably end up backfiring on me. Maybe just best to abandon the idea entirely.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
Which API?
"If you reward everyone, there will not be enough to go around, so you offer a reward to one in order to encourage everyone." Mei Yaochen in the 'Doing Battle' section of Sun Tzu's: Art of War. .
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Where's the best place to direct people looking for .net developers interested in making small utility apps? Besides rent a coder of course, I've heard too many horror stories to be confident in making any suggestions.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
How about this? http://jobs.freelanceswitch.com/categories/2[^] Maybe something like that is what you need...
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Where's the best place to direct people looking for .net developers interested in making small utility apps? Besides rent a coder of course, I've heard too many horror stories to be confident in making any suggestions.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
With all of the rejected suggestions, it really sounds like your customers want work done for 'little to nothing'. That is the absolute worst kind of job possible. I think that with the type of work you have and the money you want to spend, you are not going to find the 'quality' resource you want. You need to start trolling the local high school cafeteria honestly. That's my only suggestion. Perhaps if you could get your customers to pony up real dollars, you could go to CEWeekly, where the REAL contractors play. Outside of that, you need to go fish. I am sick of people who really believe that this stuff is easy and should be dirt cheap. Then they stand on a soap box and bitch about how bad coders are and careless with error handling and blah, blah, blah. You get what you pay for. Its really simple. Pay is crap, you get crap.
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Where's the best place to direct people looking for .net developers interested in making small utility apps? Besides rent a coder of course, I've heard too many horror stories to be confident in making any suggestions.
"It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson
I would suggest looking for professional groups of programmers and looking there. And, while it may sound a little "old-fashioned" for the tech world, check out local Chamber of Commerce's. I do a lot of networking through my Chamber membership. Then, once you find someone that you know is reliable and won't hurt your reputation, stick with them. If these are small jobs like you say, then someone should be able to absorb them here and there. Plus, if you set up a good relationship with this person, they may be able to offer you a commission so that you can earn a little off your referrals. Good luck. -Doug
-Doug Glennon http://www.glennonconsulting.com