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    Hans Dietrich
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    The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

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      The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

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      Hans Dietrich wrote:

      and a budget of $1M.

      I bet Chris wishes he had that budget! :)

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        The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

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        Steve Mayfield
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        Our company has a staff of one (me) and a budget of $0 :((

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          The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

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          Hans Dietrich wrote:

          because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M

          That does seem tiny for the amount of material they make available. I would have expected at least 20-30 people or more would be responsible for the site. Heck, Club Penguin employed 150 people before Disney bought them out awhile back. Cheers, Drew.

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            The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

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            $1M seems kind of low for a government operation. :laugh:


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              The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

              Best wishes, Hans


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              Jim Crafton
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              Well let's assume a salary of 50K for each of the 6. Multiply the salary by 2.5 for insurance, benefits, etc, and you get $750K for all 6 just in salary overhead. So only 250K left for machinery, software, maintenance, etc. Sounds a bit slim.

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                Hans Dietrich wrote:

                and a budget of $1M.

                I bet Chris wishes he had that budget! :)

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                Chris Maunder
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                1 million... Just think of the number of really good emoticons that would supply. ahhh.....

                cheers, Chris Maunder

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                  Well let's assume a salary of 50K for each of the 6. Multiply the salary by 2.5 for insurance, benefits, etc, and you get $750K for all 6 just in salary overhead. So only 250K left for machinery, software, maintenance, etc. Sounds a bit slim.

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                  Jim Crafton wrote:

                  assume a salary of 50K

                  That sounds low for Washington DC.

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                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                    assume a salary of 50K

                    That sounds low for Washington DC.

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                    Sure does.

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                      Jim Crafton wrote:

                      assume a salary of 50K

                      That sounds low for Washington DC.

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                      Well that just brings what's left over after personnel costs even further down. So they are going to have to suck it up and run a tight ship. Bummer, they can join the rest of us.

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                        1 million... Just think of the number of really good emoticons that would supply. ahhh.....

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                        You would have to get more hamsters, and then get a hamster supervisor.

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                          The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

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                          If it's a FISMA [^]compliant site then 1M seems low. They could lower the cost of the site by disbanding NIST security division. 5 of the 6 wieners are probably there to make sure they are following NIST FISMA guidlines. They should be fired and allowed to clean offices, or work as gas station clerks or even 7-11 clerks. They are the evil American politruk[^], maybe sent to prison, or Siberia North Dakota to pay for thier crimes.... Breath count to 10.... I'm better now.

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                            You would have to get more hamsters, and then get a hamster supervisor.

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                            Hans Dietrich wrote:

                            a hamster supervisor.

                            And we all know how expensive they are.

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                            • H Hans Dietrich

                              The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

                              Best wishes, Hans


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                              There's no excuse, either adjust the budget or adjust the services offered. Someones not *managing* like they should be.


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                                The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

                                Best wishes, Hans


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                                If a commertical content management is used, a team of 6 people seems plenty enough.

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                                  The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

                                  Best wishes, Hans


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                                  Hans Dietrich wrote:

                                  Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with?

                                  </edit> this is no ordinary website </edit> It's less the the redecoration of a CEO's office at Merryl Lynch... I'm sure we're not talking about only technical staff, so yes I can see 6 people is not much...

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                                    Well let's assume a salary of 50K for each of the 6. Multiply the salary by 2.5 for insurance, benefits, etc, and you get $750K for all 6 just in salary overhead. So only 250K left for machinery, software, maintenance, etc. Sounds a bit slim.

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                                    You forgot delegation, that would be $20K * 5 and $200K for the manager...

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                                      The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

                                      Best wishes, Hans


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                                      John M Drescher
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                                      Hans Dietrich wrote:

                                      only have 6 people and a budget of $1M.

                                      Wow, I'll take that job.

                                      John

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                                        Jim Crafton wrote:

                                        assume a salary of 50K

                                        That sounds low for Washington DC.

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                                        John M Drescher
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                                        Now when you put it that way. I will not definitely take that job.

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                                          Well let's assume a salary of 50K for each of the 6. Multiply the salary by 2.5 for insurance, benefits, etc, and you get $750K for all 6 just in salary overhead. So only 250K left for machinery, software, maintenance, etc. Sounds a bit slim.

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                                          John M Drescher
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                                          Jim Crafton wrote:

                                          Multiply the salary by 2.5 for insurance, benefits, etc

                                          Is it really that high?

                                          John

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