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  • H Hans Dietrich

    The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

    Best wishes, Hans


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    Tom Delany
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    Hans Dietrich wrote:

    and a budget of $1M.

    I bet Chris wishes he had that budget! :)

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    • H Hans Dietrich

      The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

      Best wishes, Hans


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      Steve Mayfield
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      Our company has a staff of one (me) and a budget of $0 :((

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      • H Hans Dietrich

        The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

        Best wishes, Hans


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        Lost User
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        Hans Dietrich wrote:

        because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M

        That does seem tiny for the amount of material they make available. I would have expected at least 20-30 people or more would be responsible for the site. Heck, Club Penguin employed 150 people before Disney bought them out awhile back. Cheers, Drew.

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        • H Hans Dietrich

          The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

          Best wishes, Hans


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          Steve Echols
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          $1M seems kind of low for a government operation. :laugh:


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          • H Hans Dietrich

            The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

            Best wishes, Hans


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            Jim Crafton
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            Well let's assume a salary of 50K for each of the 6. Multiply the salary by 2.5 for insurance, benefits, etc, and you get $750K for all 6 just in salary overhead. So only 250K left for machinery, software, maintenance, etc. Sounds a bit slim.

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              Hans Dietrich wrote:

              and a budget of $1M.

              I bet Chris wishes he had that budget! :)

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              Chris Maunder
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              1 million... Just think of the number of really good emoticons that would supply. ahhh.....

              cheers, Chris Maunder

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              • J Jim Crafton

                Well let's assume a salary of 50K for each of the 6. Multiply the salary by 2.5 for insurance, benefits, etc, and you get $750K for all 6 just in salary overhead. So only 250K left for machinery, software, maintenance, etc. Sounds a bit slim.

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                Jim Crafton wrote:

                assume a salary of 50K

                That sounds low for Washington DC.

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                • J JimmyRopes

                  Jim Crafton wrote:

                  assume a salary of 50K

                  That sounds low for Washington DC.

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                  Rob Graham
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                  Sure does.

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                  • J JimmyRopes

                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                    assume a salary of 50K

                    That sounds low for Washington DC.

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                    Jim Crafton
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                    Well that just brings what's left over after personnel costs even further down. So they are going to have to suck it up and run a tight ship. Bummer, they can join the rest of us.

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      1 million... Just think of the number of really good emoticons that would supply. ahhh.....

                      cheers, Chris Maunder

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                      You would have to get more hamsters, and then get a hamster supervisor.

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                      • H Hans Dietrich

                        The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

                        Best wishes, Hans


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                        If it's a FISMA [^]compliant site then 1M seems low. They could lower the cost of the site by disbanding NIST security division. 5 of the 6 wieners are probably there to make sure they are following NIST FISMA guidlines. They should be fired and allowed to clean offices, or work as gas station clerks or even 7-11 clerks. They are the evil American politruk[^], maybe sent to prison, or Siberia North Dakota to pay for thier crimes.... Breath count to 10.... I'm better now.

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                        • H Hans Dietrich

                          You would have to get more hamsters, and then get a hamster supervisor.

                          Best wishes, Hans


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                          Chris Maunder
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                          Hans Dietrich wrote:

                          a hamster supervisor.

                          And we all know how expensive they are.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder

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                          • H Hans Dietrich

                            The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

                            Best wishes, Hans


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                            There's no excuse, either adjust the budget or adjust the services offered. Someones not *managing* like they should be.


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                            • H Hans Dietrich

                              The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

                              Best wishes, Hans


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                              If a commertical content management is used, a team of 6 people seems plenty enough.

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                              • H Hans Dietrich

                                The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

                                Best wishes, Hans


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                                Hans Dietrich wrote:

                                Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with?

                                </edit> this is no ordinary website </edit> It's less the the redecoration of a CEO's office at Merryl Lynch... I'm sure we're not talking about only technical staff, so yes I can see 6 people is not much...

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                                • J Jim Crafton

                                  Well let's assume a salary of 50K for each of the 6. Multiply the salary by 2.5 for insurance, benefits, etc, and you get $750K for all 6 just in salary overhead. So only 250K left for machinery, software, maintenance, etc. Sounds a bit slim.

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                                  Rocky Moore
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                                  You forgot delegation, that would be $20K * 5 and $200K for the manager...

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                                  • H Hans Dietrich

                                    The White House is saying that they're having a tough time keeping the White House web site up to date, because they only have 6 people and a budget of $1M. Is this complaint justified? Does anyone have any facts (of other web sites) to compare this with? How much money and how big a support staff do you think they should have to get the job done?

                                    Best wishes, Hans


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                                    John M Drescher
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                                    Hans Dietrich wrote:

                                    only have 6 people and a budget of $1M.

                                    Wow, I'll take that job.

                                    John

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                                    • J JimmyRopes

                                      Jim Crafton wrote:

                                      assume a salary of 50K

                                      That sounds low for Washington DC.

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                                      John M Drescher
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                                      Now when you put it that way. I will not definitely take that job.

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                                        Well let's assume a salary of 50K for each of the 6. Multiply the salary by 2.5 for insurance, benefits, etc, and you get $750K for all 6 just in salary overhead. So only 250K left for machinery, software, maintenance, etc. Sounds a bit slim.

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                                        John M Drescher
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                                        Jim Crafton wrote:

                                        Multiply the salary by 2.5 for insurance, benefits, etc

                                        Is it really that high?

                                        John

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                                          Jim Crafton wrote:

                                          Multiply the salary by 2.5 for insurance, benefits, etc

                                          Is it really that high?

                                          John

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                                          I can't fathom it being that high. I've heard things like "add 50% for benefits" but never anything close to 2.5 times. Cheers, Drew.

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