So is this the latest fancy?
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Creating HUGE band of flash animation on the home page? I'm starting to see this on too many sites. http://www.thomsonreuters.com/[^] http://w1.siemens.com/entry/cc/en/[^] And there's a huge list to show.. I remember using flash anims on the first page was considered a taboo. That's changed now?!
OK,. what country just started work for the day ? The ASP.NET forum is flooded with retarded questions. -Christian Graus Best wishes to Rexx[^]
Didn't you know? HTTP is being replaced by FCDP (Flash content delivery protocol)
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Creating HUGE band of flash animation on the home page? I'm starting to see this on too many sites. http://www.thomsonreuters.com/[^] http://w1.siemens.com/entry/cc/en/[^] And there's a huge list to show.. I remember using flash anims on the first page was considered a taboo. That's changed now?!
OK,. what country just started work for the day ? The ASP.NET forum is flooded with retarded questions. -Christian Graus Best wishes to Rexx[^]
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Didn't you know? HTTP is being replaced by FCDP (Flash content delivery protocol)
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Yep X| X| .
OK,. what country just started work for the day ? The ASP.NET forum is flooded with retarded questions. -Christian Graus Best wishes to Rexx[^]
I have always only enjoyed light designs. I _really_ these flash banners, but it is like everything, you can do real clever things[^] or horrors. Most hated is the flash intro without "skip" link. X| And now that flash content will be registered by search engines, it won't improve.
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I have always only enjoyed light designs. I _really_ these flash banners, but it is like everything, you can do real clever things[^] or horrors. Most hated is the flash intro without "skip" link. X| And now that flash content will be registered by search engines, it won't improve.
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You've just pushed me into yet another time eater. Looks addictive.. lol. I'm just loving it. I wish it keeps asking for all the cites in the world. very nice.
OK,. what country just started work for the day ? The ASP.NET forum is flooded with retarded questions. -Christian Graus Best wishes to Rexx[^]
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Creating HUGE band of flash animation on the home page? I'm starting to see this on too many sites. http://www.thomsonreuters.com/[^] http://w1.siemens.com/entry/cc/en/[^] And there's a huge list to show.. I remember using flash anims on the first page was considered a taboo. That's changed now?!
OK,. what country just started work for the day ? The ASP.NET forum is flooded with retarded questions. -Christian Graus Best wishes to Rexx[^]
I was recently asked by a friend if I could do a website for their business (small home business). I said sure, no problem, just let me know when and what you need. Few months later they got back to me and said they had decided to get their niece to do it as she was interested. I was fine with this, as it would only have been free work anyway. But I thought I'd check out the site. It was 100% flash. Nothing else. I mean sure, it looked all right, but 100% flash just feels dirty. But as hard as I thought about it, I couldn't think of one decent reason why a 100% flash website should be avoided. Forget all the "geek" issues like using proprietary plug ins and stuff like that - users don't care about that kind of thing. I mean real user issues. It loaded fast on my rather low end broadband connection. No one uses dial up any more, so who cares about them. it works cross browser, which is good. Are there any 'real' reasons why sites shouldn't just use 100% flash?
Simon
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I was recently asked by a friend if I could do a website for their business (small home business). I said sure, no problem, just let me know when and what you need. Few months later they got back to me and said they had decided to get their niece to do it as she was interested. I was fine with this, as it would only have been free work anyway. But I thought I'd check out the site. It was 100% flash. Nothing else. I mean sure, it looked all right, but 100% flash just feels dirty. But as hard as I thought about it, I couldn't think of one decent reason why a 100% flash website should be avoided. Forget all the "geek" issues like using proprietary plug ins and stuff like that - users don't care about that kind of thing. I mean real user issues. It loaded fast on my rather low end broadband connection. No one uses dial up any more, so who cares about them. it works cross browser, which is good. Are there any 'real' reasons why sites shouldn't just use 100% flash?
Simon
Terrible! A terrific example : http://www.servion.com/[^]
OK,. what country just started work for the day ? The ASP.NET forum is flooded with retarded questions. -Christian Graus Best wishes to Rexx[^]
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I was recently asked by a friend if I could do a website for their business (small home business). I said sure, no problem, just let me know when and what you need. Few months later they got back to me and said they had decided to get their niece to do it as she was interested. I was fine with this, as it would only have been free work anyway. But I thought I'd check out the site. It was 100% flash. Nothing else. I mean sure, it looked all right, but 100% flash just feels dirty. But as hard as I thought about it, I couldn't think of one decent reason why a 100% flash website should be avoided. Forget all the "geek" issues like using proprietary plug ins and stuff like that - users don't care about that kind of thing. I mean real user issues. It loaded fast on my rather low end broadband connection. No one uses dial up any more, so who cares about them. it works cross browser, which is good. Are there any 'real' reasons why sites shouldn't just use 100% flash?
Simon
Ever tried to maintain someone else's 100% flash site? I thought it was bad enough maintaining old HTML and ASP based sites until I was recently asked to update a location map on a customer's 100% Flash site. Coming from an HTML background, you'd expect it to be easy: get the source psd, modify the layer with the "we are here" triangles on it, update the MAP element. Oh no, it doesn't work like that in Flash. You've got to locate the correct layer (a herculean effort in itself if Mr Flash developer has used labels like img102 for his elements), then deal with all the animation "goto frame number x" bits and bobs before even thinking about adding your own entities. Something I could do in about an hour in HTML becomes a 3 day marathon. Perhaps if I was more savvy with Flash, it'd be much quicker, but it still strikes me as horribly clunky compared to HTML. I'm sure the previous developers did it this way on purpose, to lock the customer in.
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I was recently asked by a friend if I could do a website for their business (small home business). I said sure, no problem, just let me know when and what you need. Few months later they got back to me and said they had decided to get their niece to do it as she was interested. I was fine with this, as it would only have been free work anyway. But I thought I'd check out the site. It was 100% flash. Nothing else. I mean sure, it looked all right, but 100% flash just feels dirty. But as hard as I thought about it, I couldn't think of one decent reason why a 100% flash website should be avoided. Forget all the "geek" issues like using proprietary plug ins and stuff like that - users don't care about that kind of thing. I mean real user issues. It loaded fast on my rather low end broadband connection. No one uses dial up any more, so who cares about them. it works cross browser, which is good. Are there any 'real' reasons why sites shouldn't just use 100% flash?
Simon
Simon Stevens wrote:
Are there any 'real' reasons why sites shouldn't just use 100% flash?
Accessibility, it isn't cross-browser (it doesn't work on my phone's browser, for example), inconsistent interfaces that interfere with how people use browsers, lack of content that can be indexed by Google, etc. There are plenty of real issues. Also it generally leads to poor websites that do nothing other than impress someone with a 'ooh look at the flashing lights' syndrome.
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Terrible! A terrific example : http://www.servion.com/[^]
OK,. what country just started work for the day ? The ASP.NET forum is flooded with retarded questions. -Christian Graus Best wishes to Rexx[^]
what an absolutely crap website X|
"mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"
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Simon Stevens wrote:
Are there any 'real' reasons why sites shouldn't just use 100% flash?
Accessibility, it isn't cross-browser (it doesn't work on my phone's browser, for example), inconsistent interfaces that interfere with how people use browsers, lack of content that can be indexed by Google, etc. There are plenty of real issues. Also it generally leads to poor websites that do nothing other than impress someone with a 'ooh look at the flashing lights' syndrome.
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"mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"
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Simon Stevens wrote:
Are there any 'real' reasons why sites shouldn't just use 100% flash?
Accessibility, it isn't cross-browser (it doesn't work on my phone's browser, for example), inconsistent interfaces that interfere with how people use browsers, lack of content that can be indexed by Google, etc. There are plenty of real issues. Also it generally leads to poor websites that do nothing other than impress someone with a 'ooh look at the flashing lights' syndrome.
Johnny ² wrote:
it doesn't work on my phone's browser
Also - Adobe's Flash plug-in for OS X (and Linux? Don't know) sucks rocks - on my iBook, any sign of Flash sent the CPU up towards 100% utilisation. Not so bad on my nice, shiny new MacBook Pro, but it's embedded a deep hatred of Flash in my heart.
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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I was recently asked by a friend if I could do a website for their business (small home business). I said sure, no problem, just let me know when and what you need. Few months later they got back to me and said they had decided to get their niece to do it as she was interested. I was fine with this, as it would only have been free work anyway. But I thought I'd check out the site. It was 100% flash. Nothing else. I mean sure, it looked all right, but 100% flash just feels dirty. But as hard as I thought about it, I couldn't think of one decent reason why a 100% flash website should be avoided. Forget all the "geek" issues like using proprietary plug ins and stuff like that - users don't care about that kind of thing. I mean real user issues. It loaded fast on my rather low end broadband connection. No one uses dial up any more, so who cares about them. it works cross browser, which is good. Are there any 'real' reasons why sites shouldn't just use 100% flash?
Simon
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You've just pushed me into yet another time eater. Looks addictive.. lol. I'm just loving it. I wish it keeps asking for all the cites in the world. very nice.
OK,. what country just started work for the day ? The ASP.NET forum is flooded with retarded questions. -Christian Graus Best wishes to Rexx[^]
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what an absolutely crap website X|
"mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"
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I was recently asked by a friend if I could do a website for their business (small home business). I said sure, no problem, just let me know when and what you need. Few months later they got back to me and said they had decided to get their niece to do it as she was interested. I was fine with this, as it would only have been free work anyway. But I thought I'd check out the site. It was 100% flash. Nothing else. I mean sure, it looked all right, but 100% flash just feels dirty. But as hard as I thought about it, I couldn't think of one decent reason why a 100% flash website should be avoided. Forget all the "geek" issues like using proprietary plug ins and stuff like that - users don't care about that kind of thing. I mean real user issues. It loaded fast on my rather low end broadband connection. No one uses dial up any more, so who cares about them. it works cross browser, which is good. Are there any 'real' reasons why sites shouldn't just use 100% flash?
Simon
Simon Stevens wrote:
Are there any 'real' reasons why sites shouldn't just use 100% flash?
Because it's compiled code, and not plain text, Flash is much harder to index in search engines. This characteristic also stays in the way of the semantic-web paradigm. Silverlight however addresses this issue with it's XAML code.
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I was recently asked by a friend if I could do a website for their business (small home business). I said sure, no problem, just let me know when and what you need. Few months later they got back to me and said they had decided to get their niece to do it as she was interested. I was fine with this, as it would only have been free work anyway. But I thought I'd check out the site. It was 100% flash. Nothing else. I mean sure, it looked all right, but 100% flash just feels dirty. But as hard as I thought about it, I couldn't think of one decent reason why a 100% flash website should be avoided. Forget all the "geek" issues like using proprietary plug ins and stuff like that - users don't care about that kind of thing. I mean real user issues. It loaded fast on my rather low end broadband connection. No one uses dial up any more, so who cares about them. it works cross browser, which is good. Are there any 'real' reasons why sites shouldn't just use 100% flash?
Simon
Simon Stevens wrote:
Forget all the "geek" issues like using proprietary plug ins and stuff like that - users don't care about that kind of thing. I mean real user issues.
Those are real user issues if those users are just everyday folk trying to get/buy something from your company. You be totally surprised how many computer illiterate people there are out there. But, it also depends on the users you're trying to reach.
Simon Stevens wrote:
No one uses dial up any more, so who cares about them
Not true. There's many parts of the US that don't have cable/satellite systems for many reasons, and I'm sure it's like that in other countries as well. I'm in SE USA, and we sell insurance with a focus on farmers and ranchers, but not restricted to just them, anyone can buy from us. We're actually having a couple new sites done, and Flash was immediately elliminated by the Marketing group because they did the demographics, and the cultural studies of our "users" and found a large portion do use dial-up, are not computer savvy and would easily be turned off by such "flashy" content. It's all about who your end users are that should dictate using these technologies.
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Terrible! A terrific example : http://www.servion.com/[^]
OK,. what country just started work for the day ? The ASP.NET forum is flooded with retarded questions. -Christian Graus Best wishes to Rexx[^]
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I have always only enjoyed light designs. I _really_ these flash banners, but it is like everything, you can do real clever things[^] or horrors. Most hated is the flash intro without "skip" link. X| And now that flash content will be registered by search engines, it won't improve.
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