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      I hear Mono is doing rather well lately. I think someone even managed to statically link the required libraries into the executable and get it to run without any external files

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      Computafreak wrote:

      I think someone even managed to statically link the required libraries into the executable and get it to run without any external files

      I can't wait to see that stand alone "hello world" program. :-D

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        OK, i had vista worked fine for almost 3 months (yeaaaaah) and then for some reason (as usual) it stopped getting update, and some programs stopped working properly!!!!!!!.:mad: After search online for almost 3 weeks for a solution, i got nothing.:mad: The only way to fix this is format and install windows again. :( I'm trying to do that for 4 days (more than 20 times) but with no luck. Every time i install it i wouldn't be able to get all feature under (Turn on and off Windows feature). From my experience I know if i'm not able to get these feature, so forget it don't wast time and install windows again. THERE IS NO SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM AT ALL. even Windows creator don't know how to fix it. So the question, is do i need vista as .NET developer or, go back to XP, switch to Mac/Linux or what????:confused:

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        realJSOP
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        Vista barely works as an operating system. Why would anyone want it to be a developer?

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          egyamado wrote:

          switch to Mac/Linux

          Even if you do that, you'll need to pick a Windows OS to install in a VM to develop on. Personally, I picked Windows 7 (beta for now, obviously) - I'm liking it :-) At work, I'm using Windows 2000 (oh yeah!) and XP - I'm quite happy sticking with XP there.

          Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

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          Stuart Dootson wrote:

          Even if you do that, you'll need to pick a Windows OS to install in a VM to develop on.

          That can be slow. At least on my home quad core 9550 with 6GB of memory compiles are significantly slower in a vmware vm than on my dual core 2.9Ghz Athlon X2 (no vm) at work. The big problem are disk and video performance. I am talking about applications with several million lines of code here so maybe that makes a difference.

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            OK, i had vista worked fine for almost 3 months (yeaaaaah) and then for some reason (as usual) it stopped getting update, and some programs stopped working properly!!!!!!!.:mad: After search online for almost 3 weeks for a solution, i got nothing.:mad: The only way to fix this is format and install windows again. :( I'm trying to do that for 4 days (more than 20 times) but with no luck. Every time i install it i wouldn't be able to get all feature under (Turn on and off Windows feature). From my experience I know if i'm not able to get these feature, so forget it don't wast time and install windows again. THERE IS NO SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM AT ALL. even Windows creator don't know how to fix it. So the question, is do i need vista as .NET developer or, go back to XP, switch to Mac/Linux or what????:confused:

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            Luc Pattyn
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            Hi, yes I do. more than a year ago I was developing on XP and decided to buy a Vista machine so I could check my apps run fine on it. Vista worked and still works great, so after one month I decided to switch over, I now do all the work on Vista, I only power up the slightly older XP machine when I need to check something on it. Vista rocks. Just like all recent computer systems, it does need memory; I will not run Vista with less than 3GB (I am willing to run XP on 2GB). :)

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              Stuart Dootson wrote:

              Even if you do that, you'll need to pick a Windows OS to install in a VM to develop on.

              That can be slow. At least on my home quad core 9550 with 6GB of memory compiles are significantly slower in a vmware vm than on my dual core 2.9Ghz Athlon X2 (no vm) at work. The big problem are disk and video performance. I am talking about applications with several million lines of code here so maybe that makes a difference.

              John

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              Stuart Dootson
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              John M. Drescher wrote:

              I am talking about applications with several million lines of code here so maybe that makes a difference.

              Probably. I'm running Win7 + VS2008 on VMWare Fusion on my MacBookPro (2.4GHz Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM, 7200rpm disk) and it seems to run at least as fast as on my workstation at work (HP xw4400, 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo, 4GB RAM, XP SP3).

              John M. Drescher wrote:

              The big problem are disk and video performance

              It'll be disk performance for builds. I don't know what my disk performance is like - the Win 7 'experience rating' won't run to completion when running within VMWare Fusion.

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                Computafreak wrote:

                I think someone even managed to statically link the required libraries into the executable and get it to run without any external files

                I can't wait to see that stand alone "hello world" program. :-D

                My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page My Younger Son & His "PET"

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                Here's the video[^]

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  Vista barely works as an operating system. Why would anyone want it to be a developer?

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  To keep all of those ASP.Net developers in a job

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                    Hi, yes I do. more than a year ago I was developing on XP and decided to buy a Vista machine so I could check my apps run fine on it. Vista worked and still works great, so after one month I decided to switch over, I now do all the work on Vista, I only power up the slightly older XP machine when I need to check something on it. Vista rocks. Just like all recent computer systems, it does need memory; I will not run Vista with less than 3GB (I am willing to run XP on 2GB). :)

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                    I do all of my development on Vista, with 2GB of RAM. Every visual effect, I usually have at least two virtual machines open, along with Visual Studio and about 5 tabs in Firefox. I haven't yet felt it slow down once. I really don't see the problem that many people have with it

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                      To keep all of those ASP.Net developers in a job

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                      Hey, I resemble that remark.

                      I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                      • E egyamado

                        OK, i had vista worked fine for almost 3 months (yeaaaaah) and then for some reason (as usual) it stopped getting update, and some programs stopped working properly!!!!!!!.:mad: After search online for almost 3 weeks for a solution, i got nothing.:mad: The only way to fix this is format and install windows again. :( I'm trying to do that for 4 days (more than 20 times) but with no luck. Every time i install it i wouldn't be able to get all feature under (Turn on and off Windows feature). From my experience I know if i'm not able to get these feature, so forget it don't wast time and install windows again. THERE IS NO SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM AT ALL. even Windows creator don't know how to fix it. So the question, is do i need vista as .NET developer or, go back to XP, switch to Mac/Linux or what????:confused:

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                        Joan M
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                        What the F#$%! You need to change your perspective... try to quit gradually what you are taking (I mean the medication) and then try to make a less stressing job... I don't know it can be a good starting point to buy a blind, deaf and limp sheep and take care of it. X|

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                          I hear Mono is doing rather well lately. I think someone even managed to statically link the required libraries into the executable and get it to run without any external files

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                          Dan Neely
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                          I wonder if they've made any progress on the huge number of 1.0 methods that someone here found TBD when doing a test compile or if they're still concentrating on shiny stuff instead of making it work?

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                            Hey, I resemble that remark.

                            I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                            That's precisely the problem

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                              OK, i had vista worked fine for almost 3 months (yeaaaaah) and then for some reason (as usual) it stopped getting update, and some programs stopped working properly!!!!!!!.:mad: After search online for almost 3 weeks for a solution, i got nothing.:mad: The only way to fix this is format and install windows again. :( I'm trying to do that for 4 days (more than 20 times) but with no luck. Every time i install it i wouldn't be able to get all feature under (Turn on and off Windows feature). From my experience I know if i'm not able to get these feature, so forget it don't wast time and install windows again. THERE IS NO SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM AT ALL. even Windows creator don't know how to fix it. So the question, is do i need vista as .NET developer or, go back to XP, switch to Mac/Linux or what????:confused:

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                              Joe Woodbury
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                              Sounds to me like you have a hardware problem. If you don't fix that, it won't matter what OS you use. You should use the same platform as the majority of your customers.

                              Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                                Sounds to me like you have a hardware problem. If you don't fix that, it won't matter what OS you use. You should use the same platform as the majority of your customers.

                                Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                                Dan Neely
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                                ...and have access to every platform you support for testing purposes.

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                                  Sounds to me like you have a hardware problem. If you don't fix that, it won't matter what OS you use. You should use the same platform as the majority of your customers.

                                  Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                                  egyamado
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                                  I agree with you, because i had hardware issue before and it has been fixed. Maybe there's more, or not fixed properly...

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                                    OK, i had vista worked fine for almost 3 months (yeaaaaah) and then for some reason (as usual) it stopped getting update, and some programs stopped working properly!!!!!!!.:mad: After search online for almost 3 weeks for a solution, i got nothing.:mad: The only way to fix this is format and install windows again. :( I'm trying to do that for 4 days (more than 20 times) but with no luck. Every time i install it i wouldn't be able to get all feature under (Turn on and off Windows feature). From my experience I know if i'm not able to get these feature, so forget it don't wast time and install windows again. THERE IS NO SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM AT ALL. even Windows creator don't know how to fix it. So the question, is do i need vista as .NET developer or, go back to XP, switch to Mac/Linux or what????:confused:

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                                    Besir Kasami
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                                    No, you dont need Vista, but It is not bad to have it. It looks and works fine for me on Intel Duo 2.4 mhz and 4 GB RAM. And I'm very satisfied, with other words, I would never switch back to XP after installing Vista. If you are encountering problems, then you could go back to Xp and wait for Windows 7. I allready have the Beta and I'm very satisfied. "THERE IS NO SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM AT ALL" - I'm not sure there is a problem which cannot be fixed. Every problem must have a solution.About the fact that you cannot reinstall Vista, I can say that maybe Vista is not your problem, maybe installation disc, or any hardware on your computer, but you should allways be able to reinstall Vista. "switch to Mac/Linux or what????" - Don't walk alone, walk with the world. (Allways use Windows.) Leaving the Windows platform would be the biggest drowdown for a developer and any other PC user.

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                                      OK, i had vista worked fine for almost 3 months (yeaaaaah) and then for some reason (as usual) it stopped getting update, and some programs stopped working properly!!!!!!!.:mad: After search online for almost 3 weeks for a solution, i got nothing.:mad: The only way to fix this is format and install windows again. :( I'm trying to do that for 4 days (more than 20 times) but with no luck. Every time i install it i wouldn't be able to get all feature under (Turn on and off Windows feature). From my experience I know if i'm not able to get these feature, so forget it don't wast time and install windows again. THERE IS NO SOLUTION FOR THAT PROBLEM AT ALL. even Windows creator don't know how to fix it. So the question, is do i need vista as .NET developer or, go back to XP, switch to Mac/Linux or what????:confused:

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                                      jlwarlow
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                                      I'm using Vista 64 Enterprise at work and have done over the last year. I've only had a few blue screens. The rest of the time its worked perfectly. At home I have Vista 64 Ultimate on my laptop. Other than network card drivers not being installed as part of the OS install, it too has worked fine.

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                                        Thanks, :-D

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                                        Hassan Eido
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                                        You know..Vista has been the OS the people love to hate..I've been working with Vista for the past year and its working fine:P update your anti-spyware and anti-virus:D

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                                          Here's the video[^]

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                                          Monkey powered? That's is progress! :)

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