A day straight out of hell so far
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Brady Kelly wrote:
SA can definitely offer you the last three, and I think the first one, but many people here emigrate because they don't think a country taken over by Blacks and with a very high crime rate is a good place to raise a child.
Brady Kelly wrote:
The people I know that have children, my sister included, nearly all feel comfortable raising them here, china!
:confused: Since you said SA in your post so I assumed you were referring to SA. Besides I was unaware that China had been taken over by Blacks. :-D
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Incredible. This morning was just straight out of hell! 1. My son, for the first time ever woke up at 6ish and woke me up by slapping me continuously giggling and calling out "daddy!" 2. I walk into my office to find that my laptop hdd has crashed. Its OK, I have backups, its just an absolute pain to have to re-install everything :mad: 3. On the way to the Brit and Oz embassies, a twit of a lorry driver rear ends me, not much damage but the rear bumper is now cracked 4. Two blocks down the road a complete fool of a woman driving a Cayenne almost breaks off my right side mirror. Her excuse for driving like the fool she is, she's in a hurry because she was going to miss her morning appointment at a spa! :mad: 5. It takes 2 years of living in the UK before I get a permanent residence visa and that includes having to have a job. It is my understanding that you practically can't get a job unless you're a permanent resident or a citizen. 6. The Oz embassy was closed today because its a religious holiday that I completely blanked out about. However, I was told that for permanent residence visas, I might as well apply for immigration. So far, not a good start
It's not a religious holiday, it's labour day. I'm working tho. I think they are right, permanent residence and immigration are probably the same. Your best bet is to get onto a small boat and take off from Bali or something.
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not bleating ... not concerned ... if you want to stay and suffer the cost of living in the yUK then that's your choice and none of my business ... where did i say i was bleating and slagging off people who live there? i gave some advice (somewhat tongue in cheek but with some serious meaning) regarding moving there to someone and suddenly i'm all things to all people who are either not getting laid enough or are obviously coming up to bleed time of the month ... so to all of you ... enjoy the yUK ... have fun ... be happy and FUCK OFF with the personal shit k? thanks :)
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l a u r e n wrote:
or are obviously coming up to bleed time of the month
See, if I said that to anyone, it would be a death warrant.....
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It's not a religious holiday, it's labour day. I'm working tho. I think they are right, permanent residence and immigration are probably the same. Your best bet is to get onto a small boat and take off from Bali or something.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.
I meant that locally its a religious holiday :) Didn't know about the labor day thing. Christian, your ear is to the ground and I can count on you to give me straight answer with 0 embellishments and half an inch short of harassment. Would the move to Oz at this time (I assume 6 months or so) be a good thing? Work wise?
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Depends where you live in the UK really. Please don't judge everywhere here by the likes of London, Milton Keynes and Basingstoke! FWIW we have a chilled an fun time here in Bournemouth..and we're far enough away from whatever flavour of idiots are in Government that we can laugh at them from a safe distance. :)
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
we're far enough away from whatever flavour of idiots are in Government that we can laugh at them from a safe distance.
Just don't try laughing whilst driving. :laugh:
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
we're far enough away from whatever flavour of idiots are in Government that we can laugh at them from a safe distance.
Just don't try laughing whilst driving. :laugh:
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Trollslayer wrote:
You know, the UK is my home and I love it. Yes, I have been to the US.
Please don't mistake Lauren for one of US. She liked to piss on the US when she was a guest there also. I travel a lot and the one thing I never do is slag the place or customs of the people I am visiting. People and customs are different all over the world and I respect that diversity. Call me an ugly American, but I consider it bad manners to be critical of how people live anywhere in the world. I don't have to live there or even visit if I don't like the place, but I don’t have to be critical either.
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You know, the UK is my home and I love it. Yes, I have been to the US. F*** you.
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I meant that locally its a religious holiday :) Didn't know about the labor day thing. Christian, your ear is to the ground and I can count on you to give me straight answer with 0 embellishments and half an inch short of harassment. Would the move to Oz at this time (I assume 6 months or so) be a good thing? Work wise?
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Would the move to Oz at this time (I assume 6 months or so) be a good thing? Work wise?
If I can butt in here, and offer a few comments. I'm not fully up to date on the hiring climate in IT at the moment, but I have heard that a lot of finance/banking companies have shrunk their IT teams, and so the shortage of IT professionals that there was previously, is probably no longer the case. Who knows what it will be like in 6-12 months. But also depends entirely on your area - suggest you go to seek.com.au and see what matches up to your skills. As for immigration, a permanent visa application takes ages (8-12 months) to process (that's what I've been told). Also you generally need to get your degree/masters and experience assessed/accredited with ACS[^]. That takes a little while too. But you'll need to check this info and see what's relevant to your situation. Hope it helps. IMO the weather and lifestyle here is generally great. Much more of an outdoor culture of course. Rent and property is expensive in the cities, but might well be on par with europe (i.e. ratio of your income).
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Having lived in Canada and having half of my family there, I consider Canada (Edmonton to be quite precise) my home and I would simply love to go back there. I could go on for hours on how beautiful my countries are (I'm weird that way :) ) I'd prefer Canada to any other nation, but my father has settled in Jordan and because of his state of health, I'd much rather somewhere a bit closer. It might be all in my head, I mean, its a flight trip either way. Also, its a candidate because my wife's family which is in abundance in Birmingham and Scotland, not to mention all the friends I made here :) Also, I have my own family to think about now, not to mention keeping my sharp edge when it comes to tech. Jordan is a great place to start but certainly not to grow and that's simply because the market is terribly small. Ultimately, what I'm looking for is a place where:
- A place that offers me a good environment to raise my child (and possible future children)
- A place that offers me a good wage or good returns on investment so that I can support my family
- A place that will let me live with the intellectual freedom that I seek off of the internet
- A place where I can with my own two hands build something or take part in building something that will mean something to the world
Sadly, there's too much external pressure and too much internal in-fighting compounded by greed in the Middle East for that to happen. My primary candidates are Canada, USA, UK, Australia. I can speak French (it used to be more fluent) and I'd happily learn another language (besides Ostreylien if I go to Oz ;))
Trollslayer wrote:
By the way, one of my nieces could always wrap her parents around her little finger. I wonder if your sone has been on a distance learning course with her? Laugh
I'm certain! I could be his personal genie :-D But I'll tell you that I love it :) His smile is worth the world to me :)
Australia!!! Way to go mate! :-D
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Would the move to Oz at this time (I assume 6 months or so) be a good thing? Work wise?
If I can butt in here, and offer a few comments. I'm not fully up to date on the hiring climate in IT at the moment, but I have heard that a lot of finance/banking companies have shrunk their IT teams, and so the shortage of IT professionals that there was previously, is probably no longer the case. Who knows what it will be like in 6-12 months. But also depends entirely on your area - suggest you go to seek.com.au and see what matches up to your skills. As for immigration, a permanent visa application takes ages (8-12 months) to process (that's what I've been told). Also you generally need to get your degree/masters and experience assessed/accredited with ACS[^]. That takes a little while too. But you'll need to check this info and see what's relevant to your situation. Hope it helps. IMO the weather and lifestyle here is generally great. Much more of an outdoor culture of course. Rent and property is expensive in the cities, but might well be on par with europe (i.e. ratio of your income).
Please, I'm looking for some honest feed back here.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
Thanks, going through it now.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
As for immigration, a permanent visa application takes ages (8-12 months) to process
True.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
Also you generally need to get your degree/masters and experience assessed/accredited with ACS[^]. That takes a little while too.
Ah, I didn't know about that. No worries, its 10-12 weeks which is alright.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
IMO the weather and lifestyle here is generally great. Much more of an outdoor culture of course.
We were talking about that last night my wife and I :) Kept on joking about kangaroo hunting trips :laugh: (inside joke)
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
but might well be on par with europe (i.e. ratio of your income)
Wow, that high?
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I meant that locally its a religious holiday :) Didn't know about the labor day thing. Christian, your ear is to the ground and I can count on you to give me straight answer with 0 embellishments and half an inch short of harassment. Would the move to Oz at this time (I assume 6 months or so) be a good thing? Work wise?
Labour day is not a national holiday in Australia; Every state has an independent labor holiday. It is celebrated in March in Victoria/Tasmania, in May in Queensland, etc. Therefore, it is unlikely that Australian embassy was closed anywhere because of some local Australian state holiday. Work wise, it is ugly and it gets only worse. Great country, but not a great time I am afraid.
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Australia!!! Way to go mate! :-D
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Let's get there first shall we mate :)
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Labour day is not a national holiday in Australia; Every state has an independent labor holiday. It is celebrated in March in Victoria/Tasmania, in May in Queensland, etc. Therefore, it is unlikely that Australian embassy was closed anywhere because of some local Australian state holiday. Work wise, it is ugly and it gets only worse. Great country, but not a great time I am afraid.
Really? What makes you say that? I'm not being critical, I just want to know so that I can plan better.
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Please, I'm looking for some honest feed back here.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
Thanks, going through it now.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
As for immigration, a permanent visa application takes ages (8-12 months) to process
True.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
Also you generally need to get your degree/masters and experience assessed/accredited with ACS[^]. That takes a little while too.
Ah, I didn't know about that. No worries, its 10-12 weeks which is alright.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
IMO the weather and lifestyle here is generally great. Much more of an outdoor culture of course.
We were talking about that last night my wife and I :) Kept on joking about kangaroo hunting trips :laugh: (inside joke)
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
but might well be on par with europe (i.e. ratio of your income)
Wow, that high?
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Wow, that high?
I should have emphasised *MIGHT* :-D I actually don't have too much of a clue on what that ratio is in europe - I just know it's expensive in Oz compared to US, and I've heard rent ain't cheap in UK either - so they might not be that different. Depends on your job and city/suburb as always tho doesn't it...
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
kangaroo hunting
I think they are culled in parts. Not sure about hunting. Anyway the meat is quite tough :)
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Germans don't have humor, they drink beer and eat bratwurst. Wheee, pissed off another nation!
Wout
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so if i was a guest in zimbabwe i should be praising that despot too should i? criticizing a country for flagrant abuses against humanity is the duty of all citizens of the world imho ... and instead of being patriotic about one piece of rock why not try being the same way about the whole planet and all who live on it? oh what? you can't cos there's no flag to wave? oh shame and where do you get off attacking me personally for an opinion about a country? look to your own before mouthing off about someone else in future X|
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Really? What makes you say that? I'm not being critical, I just want to know so that I can plan better.
Oh, just some personal experiences. I am between contracts at the moment, and situation has certainly deteriorated since last year. There are still some jobs on the market, it hasn't entirely dried out, but it's much tougher to get one. About 80-90% of the contracts here in Queensland are now the government ones, private sector has almost stopped hiring. Hourly rates have gone down markedly, and we are now starting to see the beginning of the predatorial job advertisements. None of this is new for the IT, it happened before back in 2000. It took us some time, actually years to recover. Sadly, good times only lasted for a few years this time (2006-2008). Australia is, more than other developed countries, exposed to the influence of boom and bust cycles. It is not only the IT thing, tourism or mining are just the same. Situation swings widely; For the majority of people last 12-13 years were ok, but historically industries were on the mercy of these cycles. Mining towns in central Queensland were unable to attract truck drivers by offering 150K last year - some of these towns are now all but abandoned as a result of the downturn. With only six months between the extremes. Never forget that Australia is a small market after all. Only 22 million of isolated individuals living in endless yet empty country. I might be overly pessimistic, actually I had a number of calls today (after a while). There are bad things here, and there are some fantastic things here as well. Just as is the case anywhere else. Cheers,
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god what a complete loser you are! X|
"mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"
You may not care, but when people sum up, they conclude you to be the looser. Just take this as a game, don't take it so seriously. Now I call you a perfect looser because you lost the game so terribly when there was really any no need to. Just with your tit for tat reply to Elaine, you lost the entire point. Now nobody would understand what you are trying to say. They all got so drunk and are already on drugs. Now no matter how you much scream you'll be flamed. Honestly, I find 0% wrong with your initial posts. You have the right to say you don't like a country. That's 100 percent valid. It was a knee jerk reaction from Elaine. If you had replied to her with a plain message saying "there's no need you must get offended, it's my personal view, can you please shut up?", I bet you were the winner. You bonehead, lost with your temper. This doesn't mean I'm so against Elaine, but I really felt shocked about the way people jumping on you. You can be happy about something. If you felt somebody is totally wrong, they are just *******. It looks it's true. So you can tag them up for your future reference ;). But before tagging them up , just get settled otherwise you'll end up tagging everyone.
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