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  • B blackjack2150

    It's sad, but honestly your compassion is worth a better cause. Did you feel at least half as depressed when you read this[^]? I love dogs, but I hate dog shows, dog birthday parties, dog hairstyling, dog clothes and all that BS. I hate anything that's artificial and insults their animal nature. Fell free to down-vote.

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    How could you possibly have anything against this?[^]

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    • B blackjack2150

      It's sad, but honestly your compassion is worth a better cause. Did you feel at least half as depressed when you read this[^]? I love dogs, but I hate dog shows, dog birthday parties, dog hairstyling, dog clothes and all that BS. I hate anything that's artificial and insults their animal nature. Fell free to down-vote.

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      Zhat
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      I was sharing a story about a FRIEND who experienced a great loss and you're wanting to politicize it? My compassion runs deep for a great many things and I can have deep compassion for a friend as well as many other people/animals/countries/etc., but you're better served asking Ilion for a better repsonse to your post, not me. I have no reason to vote on your post.

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      • D Doctor Nick

        I don't believe you lose man points for crying after killing another living thing unless it's done wearing camo in the woods and you intend to eat it.

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        Dalek Dave
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        Oh I have killed a lamb and eaten it when I was in the Army. That was fine, I was going to eat the thing, not for sport and I was very humane,(Bullet in back of head). I didn't cry then.

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        • H Henry Minute

          I expect to get one voted for this but here goes. It is sad that there was suffering, but at the end of the day they were only animals, relatively easily replaced. What I find more interesting is that they went there for breeding. Sounds like a dirty weekend.

          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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          More often than not (but curiously, not often enough), a dog can be someone's treasured companion, and a valued member of the family. I've certainly met more dogs that were worth saving than humans... My wife and I volunteer for the local Golden Retriever rescue group, and the worst part of the job is when we're called to the local animal control facility to get pick up a golden, and we have to walk past row upon row of throw-away dogs. It's a dirty rotten shame.

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          • H Henry Minute

            I expect to get one voted for this but here goes. It is sad that there was suffering, but at the end of the day they were only animals, relatively easily replaced. What I find more interesting is that they went there for breeding. Sounds like a dirty weekend.

            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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            Rage
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            Henry Minute wrote:

            relatively easily replaced

            Well, NO. Honestly, unless you really do not care about life in general, you cannot say something like that, I simply do not believe it.

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            • Z Zhat

              Henry Minute wrote:

              but at the end of the day they were only animals, relatively easily replaced.

              True I guess, as easily as human life. So make sure the next time you run into someone you know who has lost a child to tell theim to buck up, have a weekend fling and just pop out another. As for the breeding, they're trained to handle that up there, more equiped. My post was to share in the loss of a FRIEND... I don't bother to vote on what I see as someone rightful opinions.

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              Henry Minute
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              If the loss had been of a human, I would have felt the loss as well and offered condolences. There has to be some sense of perspective.

              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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              • Z Zhat

                So yesterday morning I'm driving to work, listening to the radio and of course they occasionally break in with news. One story was about Martha Stewart and how her Chow Chow puppy was killed in a very bad fire at the kennel she had boarded him at. I felt terrible for those animals, I have 3 dogs myself, but no living animal should suffer the way they did. Around 11am one of the programmers came into my office and had this "look" on her face. She asked if I would sign a card for her, and of course I always would anyway, I asked what it was for. A programmer in my group, John, is also a dog lover. His partner and he raise Chow Chow's, they have 3, and they are very much involved in the national dog shows as they show thier beloved animals at every show they can. They have ribbons and trophy's at work, deep pride in those animals. John and his partner are by no means rich (I know what he makes as he's in my group)...not even close to it, and it amazes me how they spend so much of what they have on these animals...children really. John had 2 of his "children" at that kennel for breeding...1 has died, 1 is so burned it's not expected to survive and it's the female with puppies. I cried... :((

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                Rage
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                I myself love dogs a lot, but not as I would love children; that's going too far for me. So terrible news is a bit too much for me here.

                Zhat wrote:

                national dog shows

                These shows are pure BS, as any show where animal/people/anything get dressed up to be shown in public. You don't have dogs to bring them to "shows" and get fame and glory, I bet the dog really don't care. Go have a walk with him in the woods, much better for you and him.

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                  Henry Minute wrote:

                  relatively easily replaced

                  Well, NO. Honestly, unless you really do not care about life in general, you cannot say something like that, I simply do not believe it.

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                  Henry Minute
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                  Yes! I can go out and BUY one. Something that is not normally done with humans, although it happens but that is a different topic. Better, I can go to the animal rescue centre and get one there. The feelings of loss are real, but should be got over more quickly than those from the loss of a human life. I too have lost animal friends. I too was extremely upset. I got over it by getting another. And do you know what? I found I couldn't do that when my Mother and Father died. Get a sense of perspective.

                  Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    More often than not (but curiously, not often enough), a dog can be someone's treasured companion, and a valued member of the family. I've certainly met more dogs that were worth saving than humans... My wife and I volunteer for the local Golden Retriever rescue group, and the worst part of the job is when we're called to the local animal control facility to get pick up a golden, and we have to walk past row upon row of throw-away dogs. It's a dirty rotten shame.

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    Henry Minute
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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    My wife and I volunteer for the local Golden Retriever rescue group

                    Both of you should be commended for that.

                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    I've certainly met more dogs that were worth saving than humans

                    I would have maybe phrased that as, I have met humans less worth saving than many dogs. However the sentiment is the same. What I have problems with is the putting of animals, and animal life above humans, and human life.

                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                    • H hairy_hats

                      How could you possibly have anything against this?[^]

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                      Henry Minute
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                      Grrrrrrrrrrrr!!

                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        Zhat wrote:

                        I cried...

                        I know exactly how you feel! I ran over a dog last week, I felt wretched for days. It just ran out on me, I had no chance. I love dogs and despite loss of man points, there was a tear in my eye too. My Commiserations :rose:

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                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        I love dogs and despite loss of man points, there was a tear in my eye too.

                        Dogs are OK, no loss of man points - man's best friend and all. Cats on the other hand...

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                        • H Henry Minute

                          If the loss had been of a human, I would have felt the loss as well and offered condolences. There has to be some sense of perspective.

                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                          Let's be clear here, I'm not putting these dog's lives above human life, simply stating that loss is a persoanl feeling to which the level of compassion can't never be compared between; say you and I, though I'm sure we both feel deeply in our own way.

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                          • J Jim Crafton

                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            I love dogs and despite loss of man points, there was a tear in my eye too.

                            Dogs are OK, no loss of man points - man's best friend and all. Cats on the other hand...

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                            Jim Crafton wrote:

                            Cats on the other hand...

                            What the heck is it about cats that makes people hate them? I have gotten more respect out of every cat I have ever owned that out of any dog I have ever come across. I guess I value respect over drooling...


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                              I myself love dogs a lot, but not as I would love children; that's going too far for me. So terrible news is a bit too much for me here.

                              Zhat wrote:

                              national dog shows

                              These shows are pure BS, as any show where animal/people/anything get dressed up to be shown in public. You don't have dogs to bring them to "shows" and get fame and glory, I bet the dog really don't care. Go have a walk with him in the woods, much better for you and him.

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                              Rage wrote:

                              terrible news is a bit too much for me here.

                              It has nothing to do with you, it's terrible news in my eyes and the eyes of my friend; nothing more. I was just sharing it. I personally don't go to dog shows. However it's a Huge part of my friends life, and I therefore have respect for his feelings no matter what I may think. But thanks for sharing with us your personal feelings on animal/people/dress up gatherings.

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                              • R Ray Cassick

                                Jim Crafton wrote:

                                Cats on the other hand...

                                What the heck is it about cats that makes people hate them? I have gotten more respect out of every cat I have ever owned that out of any dog I have ever come across. I guess I value respect over drooling...


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                                Dogs, or at the least the dogs I've known, bring a certain oafish enthusiasm to whatever they do, especially if it's greeting you. It's hard not laugh at that, even when they do something bad. Cats on the other hand are frequently insolent and, well, just "catty", you can pet them for a minute or two, they're purring away in contentment, and then WHAM! they're pissed and try scratch you! Pfft, no dog would ever do that! Cats are Machiavelli to dogs Homer Simpson. Homer is an idiot, but a lovable one, Machiavelli, not so much.

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                                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                  More often than not (but curiously, not often enough), a dog can be someone's treasured companion, and a valued member of the family. I've certainly met more dogs that were worth saving than humans... My wife and I volunteer for the local Golden Retriever rescue group, and the worst part of the job is when we're called to the local animal control facility to get pick up a golden, and we have to walk past row upon row of throw-away dogs. It's a dirty rotten shame.

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                  Find the owners and put them in the pound for a couple of weeks with nothing but water and dog food. Does that get me creative points? :rolleyes:

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                                  • R Ray Cassick

                                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                                    Cats on the other hand...

                                    What the heck is it about cats that makes people hate them? I have gotten more respect out of every cat I have ever owned that out of any dog I have ever come across. I guess I value respect over drooling...


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                                    I guess it's that. With dogs it's ownership, with cats it's partnership.

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                                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                      More often than not (but curiously, not often enough), a dog can be someone's treasured companion, and a valued member of the family. I've certainly met more dogs that were worth saving than humans... My wife and I volunteer for the local Golden Retriever rescue group, and the worst part of the job is when we're called to the local animal control facility to get pick up a golden, and we have to walk past row upon row of throw-away dogs. It's a dirty rotten shame.

                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      a dog can be someone's treasured companion, and a valued member of the family.

                                      Come on, John. I expected something about killing dogs with bare hands from you, not this girly stuff.

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                                      • H Henry Minute

                                        Yes! I can go out and BUY one. Something that is not normally done with humans, although it happens but that is a different topic. Better, I can go to the animal rescue centre and get one there. The feelings of loss are real, but should be got over more quickly than those from the loss of a human life. I too have lost animal friends. I too was extremely upset. I got over it by getting another. And do you know what? I found I couldn't do that when my Mother and Father died. Get a sense of perspective.

                                        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                        Rage
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                                        Henry Minute wrote:

                                        The feelings of loss are real, but should be got over more quickly than those from the loss of a human life

                                        Why ? Because you can buy something, the loss should be compensated quicker than a human life ? Guess what, I have some objects from my childhood that I love very much, and I am sure that it would take more time for me to get over their loss than over the death of the guy sitting just next to me in the cubicle. Of course you can get over the loss of a pet quicker than the death of relatives, and AFAIR I never compared human life to animal life in my thread, but you said "relatively easily replaced", and this is simply not true. If I break a glass in my kitchen, I can easily replace it. I f my dog dies, I won't "easily" replace her, believe it or not.

                                        Henry Minute wrote:

                                        Get a sense of perspective.

                                        :| The world is obviously full of lessons giver. Let me try : you should try and argue without being rude.

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                                          Henry Minute wrote:

                                          The feelings of loss are real, but should be got over more quickly than those from the loss of a human life

                                          Why ? Because you can buy something, the loss should be compensated quicker than a human life ? Guess what, I have some objects from my childhood that I love very much, and I am sure that it would take more time for me to get over their loss than over the death of the guy sitting just next to me in the cubicle. Of course you can get over the loss of a pet quicker than the death of relatives, and AFAIR I never compared human life to animal life in my thread, but you said "relatively easily replaced", and this is simply not true. If I break a glass in my kitchen, I can easily replace it. I f my dog dies, I won't "easily" replace her, believe it or not.

                                          Henry Minute wrote:

                                          Get a sense of perspective.

                                          :| The world is obviously full of lessons giver. Let me try : you should try and argue without being rude.

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                                          Henry Minute
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                                          Rage wrote:

                                          you should try and argue without being rude

                                          That was not rude. But if you think that it was, that maybe goes a long way to explaining the differences in our views on this topic.

                                          Rage wrote:

                                          The world is obviously full of lessons giver. Let me try :

                                          Well let me try: Do not interpret the views of others as being rude, just because they differ from yours.

                                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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