Terrible News.
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Henry Minute wrote:
relatively easily replaced
Well, NO. Honestly, unless you really do not care about life in general, you cannot say something like that, I simply do not believe it.
Yes! I can go out and BUY one. Something that is not normally done with humans, although it happens but that is a different topic. Better, I can go to the animal rescue centre and get one there. The feelings of loss are real, but should be got over more quickly than those from the loss of a human life. I too have lost animal friends. I too was extremely upset. I got over it by getting another. And do you know what? I found I couldn't do that when my Mother and Father died. Get a sense of perspective.
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More often than not (but curiously, not often enough), a dog can be someone's treasured companion, and a valued member of the family. I've certainly met more dogs that were worth saving than humans... My wife and I volunteer for the local Golden Retriever rescue group, and the worst part of the job is when we're called to the local animal control facility to get pick up a golden, and we have to walk past row upon row of throw-away dogs. It's a dirty rotten shame.
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
My wife and I volunteer for the local Golden Retriever rescue group
Both of you should be commended for that.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I've certainly met more dogs that were worth saving than humans
I would have maybe phrased that as, I have met humans less worth saving than many dogs. However the sentiment is the same. What I have problems with is the putting of animals, and animal life above humans, and human life.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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Grrrrrrrrrrrr!!
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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Zhat wrote:
I cried...
I know exactly how you feel! I ran over a dog last week, I felt wretched for days. It just ran out on me, I had no chance. I love dogs and despite loss of man points, there was a tear in my eye too. My Commiserations :rose:
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Dalek Dave wrote:
I love dogs and despite loss of man points, there was a tear in my eye too.
Dogs are OK, no loss of man points - man's best friend and all. Cats on the other hand...
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If the loss had been of a human, I would have felt the loss as well and offered condolences. There has to be some sense of perspective.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
I love dogs and despite loss of man points, there was a tear in my eye too.
Dogs are OK, no loss of man points - man's best friend and all. Cats on the other hand...
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I myself love dogs a lot, but not as I would love children; that's going too far for me. So terrible news is a bit too much for me here.
Zhat wrote:
national dog shows
These shows are pure BS, as any show where animal/people/anything get dressed up to be shown in public. You don't have dogs to bring them to "shows" and get fame and glory, I bet the dog really don't care. Go have a walk with him in the woods, much better for you and him.
Rage wrote:
terrible news is a bit too much for me here.
It has nothing to do with you, it's terrible news in my eyes and the eyes of my friend; nothing more. I was just sharing it. I personally don't go to dog shows. However it's a Huge part of my friends life, and I therefore have respect for his feelings no matter what I may think. But thanks for sharing with us your personal feelings on animal/people/dress up gatherings.
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Dogs, or at the least the dogs I've known, bring a certain oafish enthusiasm to whatever they do, especially if it's greeting you. It's hard not laugh at that, even when they do something bad. Cats on the other hand are frequently insolent and, well, just "catty", you can pet them for a minute or two, they're purring away in contentment, and then WHAM! they're pissed and try scratch you! Pfft, no dog would ever do that! Cats are Machiavelli to dogs Homer Simpson. Homer is an idiot, but a lovable one, Machiavelli, not so much.
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More often than not (but curiously, not often enough), a dog can be someone's treasured companion, and a valued member of the family. I've certainly met more dogs that were worth saving than humans... My wife and I volunteer for the local Golden Retriever rescue group, and the worst part of the job is when we're called to the local animal control facility to get pick up a golden, and we have to walk past row upon row of throw-away dogs. It's a dirty rotten shame.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
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More often than not (but curiously, not often enough), a dog can be someone's treasured companion, and a valued member of the family. I've certainly met more dogs that were worth saving than humans... My wife and I volunteer for the local Golden Retriever rescue group, and the worst part of the job is when we're called to the local animal control facility to get pick up a golden, and we have to walk past row upon row of throw-away dogs. It's a dirty rotten shame.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
a dog can be someone's treasured companion, and a valued member of the family.
Come on, John. I expected something about killing dogs with bare hands from you, not this girly stuff.
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Yes! I can go out and BUY one. Something that is not normally done with humans, although it happens but that is a different topic. Better, I can go to the animal rescue centre and get one there. The feelings of loss are real, but should be got over more quickly than those from the loss of a human life. I too have lost animal friends. I too was extremely upset. I got over it by getting another. And do you know what? I found I couldn't do that when my Mother and Father died. Get a sense of perspective.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
Henry Minute wrote:
The feelings of loss are real, but should be got over more quickly than those from the loss of a human life
Why ? Because you can buy something, the loss should be compensated quicker than a human life ? Guess what, I have some objects from my childhood that I love very much, and I am sure that it would take more time for me to get over their loss than over the death of the guy sitting just next to me in the cubicle. Of course you can get over the loss of a pet quicker than the death of relatives, and AFAIR I never compared human life to animal life in my thread, but you said "relatively easily replaced", and this is simply not true. If I break a glass in my kitchen, I can easily replace it. I f my dog dies, I won't "easily" replace her, believe it or not.
Henry Minute wrote:
Get a sense of perspective.
:| The world is obviously full of lessons giver. Let me try : you should try and argue without being rude.
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Henry Minute wrote:
The feelings of loss are real, but should be got over more quickly than those from the loss of a human life
Why ? Because you can buy something, the loss should be compensated quicker than a human life ? Guess what, I have some objects from my childhood that I love very much, and I am sure that it would take more time for me to get over their loss than over the death of the guy sitting just next to me in the cubicle. Of course you can get over the loss of a pet quicker than the death of relatives, and AFAIR I never compared human life to animal life in my thread, but you said "relatively easily replaced", and this is simply not true. If I break a glass in my kitchen, I can easily replace it. I f my dog dies, I won't "easily" replace her, believe it or not.
Henry Minute wrote:
Get a sense of perspective.
:| The world is obviously full of lessons giver. Let me try : you should try and argue without being rude.
Rage wrote:
you should try and argue without being rude
That was not rude. But if you think that it was, that maybe goes a long way to explaining the differences in our views on this topic.
Rage wrote:
The world is obviously full of lessons giver. Let me try :
Well let me try: Do not interpret the views of others as being rude, just because they differ from yours.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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Rage wrote:
you should try and argue without being rude
That was not rude. But if you think that it was, that maybe goes a long way to explaining the differences in our views on this topic.
Rage wrote:
The world is obviously full of lessons giver. Let me try :
Well let me try: Do not interpret the views of others as being rude, just because they differ from yours.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
Henry Minute wrote:
That was not rude.
In my culture, telling people what they should do the way you did is condescending, hence rude. "Get a sense of perspective" sounds like "Grow up and come back when you are old enough to talk to me".
Henry Minute wrote:
Do not interpret the views of others as being rude, just because they differ from yours.
That's again wrong, provocative and asking for flame. I perfectly understand your views, accept that you defend them, and definitely agree that we disagree, as John would say. However, your post would have conveyed the same message without the last line which was completely unnecessary and, again, rude. Especially on this media.
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Henry Minute wrote:
That was not rude.
In my culture, telling people what they should do the way you did is condescending, hence rude. "Get a sense of perspective" sounds like "Grow up and come back when you are old enough to talk to me".
Henry Minute wrote:
Do not interpret the views of others as being rude, just because they differ from yours.
That's again wrong, provocative and asking for flame. I perfectly understand your views, accept that you defend them, and definitely agree that we disagree, as John would say. However, your post would have conveyed the same message without the last line which was completely unnecessary and, again, rude. Especially on this media.
Coming from someone who has just posted a jokey response to a thread about a human being dying, I find your attitude on this to be not only rude but deeply offensive. Get a sense of perspective.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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Coming from someone who has just posted a jokey response to a thread about a human being dying, I find your attitude on this to be not only rude but deeply offensive. Get a sense of perspective.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
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Dogs, or at the least the dogs I've known, bring a certain oafish enthusiasm to whatever they do, especially if it's greeting you. It's hard not laugh at that, even when they do something bad. Cats on the other hand are frequently insolent and, well, just "catty", you can pet them for a minute or two, they're purring away in contentment, and then WHAM! they're pissed and try scratch you! Pfft, no dog would ever do that! Cats are Machiavelli to dogs Homer Simpson. Homer is an idiot, but a lovable one, Machiavelli, not so much.
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Possibly the best post I have ever read! 5! Rich
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Henry Minute wrote:
The feelings of loss are real, but should be got over more quickly than those from the loss of a human life
Why ? Because you can buy something, the loss should be compensated quicker than a human life ? Guess what, I have some objects from my childhood that I love very much, and I am sure that it would take more time for me to get over their loss than over the death of the guy sitting just next to me in the cubicle. Of course you can get over the loss of a pet quicker than the death of relatives, and AFAIR I never compared human life to animal life in my thread, but you said "relatively easily replaced", and this is simply not true. If I break a glass in my kitchen, I can easily replace it. I f my dog dies, I won't "easily" replace her, believe it or not.
Henry Minute wrote:
Get a sense of perspective.
:| The world is obviously full of lessons giver. Let me try : you should try and argue without being rude.
Rage wrote:
Guess what, I have some objects from my childhood that I love very much, and I am sure that it would take more time for me to get over their loss than over the death of the guy sitting just next to me in the cubicle.
That got me thinking. So let's say you run into a hypothetical situation where losing your childhood object is the only way to save the life of the guy sitting next to you, would you do it? I certainly would, and I find the "contradiction" interesting.
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