White House report on Sadam Hussein
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Samsung wrote: Is it bad by definition? Yes, as you know very well. :beer:
Why the hell is everyone still anti-communist ? It verges on the edge of a paranoid mantra in the US , 'capitolism good , communism bad' . Life just isn't that simple . Capitolism seems to have done a better job for its people than communism , and in that respect it is better , but that does not mean that communism should be treated as totally useless , we should look at it and learn , not turn away and remain ignorant. Oh no, you can't fool me. There ain't no Sanity Clause!
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I don't think we should equate apples and oranges in this debate. Israel is in a defensive mode. Irac is in an offensive mode. US used nukes. Yea baby...to end a war. Nuff said. If you want to compare and debate, make sure your context are correct. Thanks, ed Every time I walk into a singles bar I can hear Mom's wise words: "Don't pick that up, you don't know where it's been!"
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Do you think China is a good place to live? :beer:
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Yeah, communism is a bad word by itself in the US. I think mindless, uncontrolled capitalism without means and without end is worst. Ultimately, all war is related to some economic profit. This is a time of economic crisis and the US will start a war against Iraq to bolster the weapon and oil industry. I do not like Sadaam. I, personally, would love to see a change of regime. But the point is that US cannot be a bully and tell everyone how to run their country. Nor can it make the UN redundant and try to rectify whatever it thinks is not "right". Iraq is merely a convenient whipping boy. The country, and Saddam Hussein, have been so thoroughly demonised by a pliant western media, and painted so completely as the Great Satan, that even if the Americans dropped a hydrogen bomb on Baghdad nobody would object. The modus operandi seems simple: whenever the US feels macho, bomb Iraq. There is no major political cost, just a bunch of dead Iraqis, and who cares about them, anyway? Bombing a country, putting a puppet regime and sucking all its resources will not end the war against terror. If I am a child growing up in Afghanistan and a stray US bomb killed my whole family...yes, I will hate US the rest of my life. Yes, you have sowed the seeds for another Osama. Well, just my two cents. Pankaj Without struggle, there is no progress
Back to good old puppet regimes , you mean like those put into South Vietnam and South Korea before they exploded ? Oh no, you can't fool me. There ain't no Sanity Clause!
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Wouldn't want to be anywhere else in the world! :-D BW {insert witty/thought-provoking saying here}
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Yes. :beer:
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pankajdaga wrote: Yeah, communism is a bad word by itself in the US. I think mindless, uncontrolled capitalism without means and without end is worst. Hehehe... Have you ever experienced communism on your own skin? Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
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Tomasz Sowinski wrote: Hehehe... Have you ever experienced communism on your own skin? Ditto! :beer:
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Why the hell is everyone still anti-communist ? It verges on the edge of a paranoid mantra in the US , 'capitolism good , communism bad' . Life just isn't that simple . Capitolism seems to have done a better job for its people than communism , and in that respect it is better , but that does not mean that communism should be treated as totally useless , we should look at it and learn , not turn away and remain ignorant. Oh no, you can't fool me. There ain't no Sanity Clause!
Andrew Torrance wrote: Capitolism seems to have done a better job for its people than communism , and in that respect it is better , but that does not mean that communism should be treated as totally useless No offense, but you don't know what are you talking about. I lived in a communist country, and trust me there is nothing good about communism. :beer:
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Yeah, communism is a bad word by itself in the US. I think mindless, uncontrolled capitalism without means and without end is worst. Ultimately, all war is related to some economic profit. This is a time of economic crisis and the US will start a war against Iraq to bolster the weapon and oil industry. I do not like Sadaam. I, personally, would love to see a change of regime. But the point is that US cannot be a bully and tell everyone how to run their country. Nor can it make the UN redundant and try to rectify whatever it thinks is not "right". Iraq is merely a convenient whipping boy. The country, and Saddam Hussein, have been so thoroughly demonised by a pliant western media, and painted so completely as the Great Satan, that even if the Americans dropped a hydrogen bomb on Baghdad nobody would object. The modus operandi seems simple: whenever the US feels macho, bomb Iraq. There is no major political cost, just a bunch of dead Iraqis, and who cares about them, anyway? Bombing a country, putting a puppet regime and sucking all its resources will not end the war against terror. If I am a child growing up in Afghanistan and a stray US bomb killed my whole family...yes, I will hate US the rest of my life. Yes, you have sowed the seeds for another Osama. Well, just my two cents. Pankaj Without struggle, there is no progress
pankajdaga wrote: Yeah, communism is a bad word by itself in the US. I think mindless, uncontrolled capitalism without means and without end is worst. Hehehe... Have you ever experienced communism on your own skin? Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
To some its a six-pack, to me it's a support group
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Back to good old puppet regimes , you mean like those put into South Vietnam and South Korea before they exploded ? Oh no, you can't fool me. There ain't no Sanity Clause!
What exploded in South Korea? Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
To some its a six-pack, to me it's a support group
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Samsung wrote: What about China Truly wonderful example. Got anymore regimes that violate basic human rights all in the name of the 'greater good of the people'. Chris
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Why the hell is everyone still anti-communist ? It verges on the edge of a paranoid mantra in the US , 'capitolism good , communism bad' . Life just isn't that simple . Capitolism seems to have done a better job for its people than communism , and in that respect it is better , but that does not mean that communism should be treated as totally useless , we should look at it and learn , not turn away and remain ignorant. Oh no, you can't fool me. There ain't no Sanity Clause!
Andrew Torrance wrote: Capitolism seems to have done a better job for its people than communism , and in that respect it is better , but that does not mean that communism should be treated as totally useless , we should look at it and learn , not turn away and remain ignorant. Yeah, and don't forget nazism then. They built good autobahns ;P Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
To some its a six-pack, to me it's a support group
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Your profile says you are in the United States but I get the impression from your posts that you are not. Where are you?
Jason Henderson
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"If you are going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston ChurchillI'm guessing South Korea....
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/iraqdecade.pdf[^] Thought some of you'd be interested. BW {insert witty/thought-provoking saying here}
Thank you very much for this link. I just read President Bush's speech to the UN, and I was pretty impressed by it--the list of transgressions, etc. I personally really hope that Bush doesn't do anything without UN sanction, and I'd really like to see the weapons inspectors given another chance. Marc
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Andrew Torrance wrote: Capitolism seems to have done a better job for its people than communism , and in that respect it is better , but that does not mean that communism should be treated as totally useless No offense, but you don't know what are you talking about. I lived in a communist country, and trust me there is nothing good about communism. :beer:
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Samsung wrote: Everything has bad and good side, even communism. Such as? Lessons in Marxism? Prosecution of relligion? Bad economy? Corruption? "Broderhood and unity"? Lupas, burazeru... ;) :beer:
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Thank you very much for this link. I just read President Bush's speech to the UN, and I was pretty impressed by it--the list of transgressions, etc. I personally really hope that Bush doesn't do anything without UN sanction, and I'd really like to see the weapons inspectors given another chance. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote: Thank you very much for this link. You're quite welcome. :) I kind of think all the talk about war, is setting the stage for one last ditch effort in that regard. A final push towards a peaceful change, but if that doesn't work, which I sadly feel it won't, then the US moves in with, hopefully, a larger support base. BW {insert witty/thought-provoking saying here}
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I'm guessing South Korea....
Well, actually Samsung seems to like communism a lot, so he'd probably install himself in North Korea :-D Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
To some its a six-pack, to me it's a support group
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Thank you very much for this link. I just read President Bush's speech to the UN, and I was pretty impressed by it--the list of transgressions, etc. I personally really hope that Bush doesn't do anything without UN sanction, and I'd really like to see the weapons inspectors given another chance. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote: I'd really like to see the weapons inspectors given another chance LOL :-D Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
To some its a six-pack, to me it's a support group
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Samsung wrote: For some other guy US is not good place for live. Than this other guy should move to China, I guess. ;P :beer: