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  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

    Samsung wrote: Is it bad by definition? Yes, as you know very well. :beer:

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    Why the hell is everyone still anti-communist ? It verges on the edge of a paranoid mantra in the US , 'capitolism good , communism bad' . Life just isn't that simple . Capitolism seems to have done a better job for its people than communism , and in that respect it is better , but that does not mean that communism should be treated as totally useless , we should look at it and learn , not turn away and remain ignorant. Oh no, you can't fool me. There ain't no Sanity Clause!

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      Yeah, communism is a bad word by itself in the US. I think mindless, uncontrolled capitalism without means and without end is worst. Ultimately, all war is related to some economic profit. This is a time of economic crisis and the US will start a war against Iraq to bolster the weapon and oil industry. I do not like Sadaam. I, personally, would love to see a change of regime. But the point is that US cannot be a bully and tell everyone how to run their country. Nor can it make the UN redundant and try to rectify whatever it thinks is not "right". Iraq is merely a convenient whipping boy. The country, and Saddam Hussein, have been so thoroughly demonised by a pliant western media, and painted so completely as the Great Satan, that even if the Americans dropped a hydrogen bomb on Baghdad nobody would object. The modus operandi seems simple: whenever the US feels macho, bomb Iraq. There is no major political cost, just a bunch of dead Iraqis, and who cares about them, anyway? Bombing a country, putting a puppet regime and sucking all its resources will not end the war against terror. If I am a child growing up in Afghanistan and a stray US bomb killed my whole family...yes, I will hate US the rest of my life. Yes, you have sowed the seeds for another Osama. Well, just my two cents. Pankaj Without struggle, there is no progress

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      Back to good old puppet regimes , you mean like those put into South Vietnam and South Korea before they exploded ? Oh no, you can't fool me. There ain't no Sanity Clause!

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      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

        Do you think China is a good place to live? :beer:

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        Samsung
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        Do you think US is good place for live?

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          Do you think US is good place for live?

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          Wouldn't want to be anywhere else in the world! :-D BW {insert witty/thought-provoking saying here}

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            Do you think US is good place for live?

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            Nemanja Trifunovic
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            Yes. :beer:

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            • T Tomasz Sowinski

              pankajdaga wrote: Yeah, communism is a bad word by itself in the US. I think mindless, uncontrolled capitalism without means and without end is worst. Hehehe... Have you ever experienced communism on your own skin? Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

              To some its a six-pack, to me it's a support group

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              Nemanja Trifunovic
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              Tomasz Sowinski wrote: Hehehe... Have you ever experienced communism on your own skin? Ditto! :beer:

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              • A Andrew Torrance

                Why the hell is everyone still anti-communist ? It verges on the edge of a paranoid mantra in the US , 'capitolism good , communism bad' . Life just isn't that simple . Capitolism seems to have done a better job for its people than communism , and in that respect it is better , but that does not mean that communism should be treated as totally useless , we should look at it and learn , not turn away and remain ignorant. Oh no, you can't fool me. There ain't no Sanity Clause!

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                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                Andrew Torrance wrote: Capitolism seems to have done a better job for its people than communism , and in that respect it is better , but that does not mean that communism should be treated as totally useless No offense, but you don't know what are you talking about. I lived in a communist country, and trust me there is nothing good about communism. :beer:

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                  Yeah, communism is a bad word by itself in the US. I think mindless, uncontrolled capitalism without means and without end is worst. Ultimately, all war is related to some economic profit. This is a time of economic crisis and the US will start a war against Iraq to bolster the weapon and oil industry. I do not like Sadaam. I, personally, would love to see a change of regime. But the point is that US cannot be a bully and tell everyone how to run their country. Nor can it make the UN redundant and try to rectify whatever it thinks is not "right". Iraq is merely a convenient whipping boy. The country, and Saddam Hussein, have been so thoroughly demonised by a pliant western media, and painted so completely as the Great Satan, that even if the Americans dropped a hydrogen bomb on Baghdad nobody would object. The modus operandi seems simple: whenever the US feels macho, bomb Iraq. There is no major political cost, just a bunch of dead Iraqis, and who cares about them, anyway? Bombing a country, putting a puppet regime and sucking all its resources will not end the war against terror. If I am a child growing up in Afghanistan and a stray US bomb killed my whole family...yes, I will hate US the rest of my life. Yes, you have sowed the seeds for another Osama. Well, just my two cents. Pankaj Without struggle, there is no progress

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                  pankajdaga wrote: Yeah, communism is a bad word by itself in the US. I think mindless, uncontrolled capitalism without means and without end is worst. Hehehe... Have you ever experienced communism on your own skin? Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

                  To some its a six-pack, to me it's a support group

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                  • A Andrew Torrance

                    Back to good old puppet regimes , you mean like those put into South Vietnam and South Korea before they exploded ? Oh no, you can't fool me. There ain't no Sanity Clause!

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                    Tomasz Sowinski
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                    What exploded in South Korea? Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

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                      Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: Yes, as you know very well. What about China, now?

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                      Samsung wrote: What about China Truly wonderful example. Got anymore regimes that violate basic human rights all in the name of the 'greater good of the people'. Chris

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                      • A Andrew Torrance

                        Why the hell is everyone still anti-communist ? It verges on the edge of a paranoid mantra in the US , 'capitolism good , communism bad' . Life just isn't that simple . Capitolism seems to have done a better job for its people than communism , and in that respect it is better , but that does not mean that communism should be treated as totally useless , we should look at it and learn , not turn away and remain ignorant. Oh no, you can't fool me. There ain't no Sanity Clause!

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                        Andrew Torrance wrote: Capitolism seems to have done a better job for its people than communism , and in that respect it is better , but that does not mean that communism should be treated as totally useless , we should look at it and learn , not turn away and remain ignorant. Yeah, and don't forget nazism then. They built good autobahns ;P Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

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                        • J Jason Henderson

                          Your profile says you are in the United States but I get the impression from your posts that you are not. Where are you?

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                          Tim Ranker
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                          I'm guessing South Korea....

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                          • B brianwelsch

                            http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/iraqdecade.pdf[^] Thought some of you'd be interested. BW {insert witty/thought-provoking saying here}

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                            Thank you very much for this link. I just read President Bush's speech to the UN, and I was pretty impressed by it--the list of transgressions, etc. I personally really hope that Bush doesn't do anything without UN sanction, and I'd really like to see the weapons inspectors given another chance. Marc

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                            • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                              Andrew Torrance wrote: Capitolism seems to have done a better job for its people than communism , and in that respect it is better , but that does not mean that communism should be treated as totally useless No offense, but you don't know what are you talking about. I lived in a communist country, and trust me there is nothing good about communism. :beer:

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                              Samsung
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                              Everything has bad and good side, even communism.

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                                Everything has bad and good side, even communism.

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                                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                Samsung wrote: Everything has bad and good side, even communism. Such as? Lessons in Marxism? Prosecution of relligion? Bad economy? Corruption? "Broderhood and unity"? Lupas, burazeru... ;) :beer:

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  Thank you very much for this link. I just read President Bush's speech to the UN, and I was pretty impressed by it--the list of transgressions, etc. I personally really hope that Bush doesn't do anything without UN sanction, and I'd really like to see the weapons inspectors given another chance. Marc

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                                  brianwelsch
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                                  Marc Clifton wrote: Thank you very much for this link. You're quite welcome. :) I kind of think all the talk about war, is setting the stage for one last ditch effort in that regard. A final push towards a peaceful change, but if that doesn't work, which I sadly feel it won't, then the US moves in with, hopefully, a larger support base. BW {insert witty/thought-provoking saying here}

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                                  • T Tim Ranker

                                    I'm guessing South Korea....

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                                    Tomasz Sowinski
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                                    Well, actually Samsung seems to like communism a lot, so he'd probably install himself in North Korea :-D Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

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                                      Thank you very much for this link. I just read President Bush's speech to the UN, and I was pretty impressed by it--the list of transgressions, etc. I personally really hope that Bush doesn't do anything without UN sanction, and I'd really like to see the weapons inspectors given another chance. Marc

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                                      Tomasz Sowinski
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                                      Marc Clifton wrote: I'd really like to see the weapons inspectors given another chance LOL :-D Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

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                                      • S Samsung

                                        For some other guy US is not good place for live.

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                                        Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                        Samsung wrote: For some other guy US is not good place for live. Than this other guy should move to China, I guess. ;P :beer:

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                                        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                          Yes. :beer:

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                                          Samsung
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                                          For some other guy US is not good place for live.

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