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  • S soap brain

    If only I showed restraint and maturity in deciding which symbols to care about. Like Grilled Cheese Virgin Mary[^], Potato Chip Jesus[^], Fishstick Jesus[^], Rotten Grape Mary[^], Tree Mary[^], Mother Theresa Cinnamon Bun[^], Potato Mary[^], and of course Virgin Mary Cerebellum[^]. If only I wasn't so hung up on the symbolic insignificance of 77,300 scholarly articles [^] on the phenomenon of brain damage causing personality change.

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    Gary Kirkham
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    Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

    phenomenon of brain damage causing personality change

    I wonder how they know that the reverse isn't the case: personality change causing brain damage.

    Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

      If only I showed restraint and maturity

      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

      If only I wasn't so hung up

      Or on spending so much time on Google coming up with these citations? :laugh:

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      soap brain
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      Meh. It was only, like, ten minutes. I want to convert him to Materialism.

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        Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

        phenomenon of brain damage causing personality change

        I wonder how they know that the reverse isn't the case: personality change causing brain damage.

        Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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        Oakman
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        Gary Kirkham wrote:

        I wonder how they know that the reverse isn't the case: personality change causing brain damage.

        And/or that lung cancer causes smoking. ;)

        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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          Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

          phenomenon of brain damage causing personality change

          I wonder how they know that the reverse isn't the case: personality change causing brain damage.

          Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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          soap brain
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          Gary Kirkham wrote:

          I wonder how they know that the reverse isn't the case: personality change causing brain damage.

          I guess they assumed that the brain damage was caused by the significant head trauma they all sustained. Are you convinced yet, though, that the mind is simply the sum of the chemical reactions occurring in your body?

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            Gary Kirkham wrote:

            I wonder how they know that the reverse isn't the case: personality change causing brain damage.

            And/or that lung cancer causes smoking. ;)

            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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            Gary Kirkham
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            Or that premarital sex leads to dancing. :)

            Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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              Gary Kirkham wrote:

              I wonder how they know that the reverse isn't the case: personality change causing brain damage.

              I guess they assumed that the brain damage was caused by the significant head trauma they all sustained. Are you convinced yet, though, that the mind is simply the sum of the chemical reactions occurring in your body?

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              Gary Kirkham
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              Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

              Are you convinced yet, though, that the mind is simply the sum of the chemical reactions occurring in your body?

              No

              Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                Or that premarital sex leads to dancing. :)

                Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                Oakman
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                Gary Kirkham wrote:

                Or that premarital sex leads to dancing.

                Well, that's a well-known fact.

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                  Gary Kirkham wrote:

                  I wonder how they know that the reverse isn't the case: personality change causing brain damage.

                  I guess they assumed that the brain damage was caused by the significant head trauma they all sustained. Are you convinced yet, though, that the mind is simply the sum of the chemical reactions occurring in your body?

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                  Oakman
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                  Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                  the mind is simply the sum of the chemical reactions occurring in your body?

                  Only people who think that are ones with little minds, less imagination, and no souls.

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                    Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                    Are you convinced yet, though, that the mind is simply the sum of the chemical reactions occurring in your body?

                    No

                    Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                    soap brain
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                    Why not? Brain damage and drug usage target only the brain, and yet have profound effects on the mind. How can the mind transcend the brain?

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                      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                      the mind is simply the sum of the chemical reactions occurring in your body?

                      Only people who think that are ones with little minds, less imagination, and no souls.

                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                      soap brain
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                      Oakman wrote:

                      Only people who think that are ones with little minds, less imagination, and no souls.

                      You surely don't really believe that. I have a fantastic imagination - I can imagine all the different ways that the world isn't, and never will be. Hey, I'm open to the idea of some currently undiscovered interaction between matter and mind-vapour, but it has to make sense. You can't just say that something undetectable exists, is intrinsically tied to clumps of neurons and violates numerous laws of physics by prompting uncountably many nerve impulses, just because. You also can't criticise me because I don't believe you.

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                      • S soap brain

                        Why not? Brain damage and drug usage target only the brain, and yet have profound effects on the mind. How can the mind transcend the brain?

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                        Gary Kirkham
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                        I never said that chemistry can't affect the mind, I am not convinced that the "mind is simply the sum of the chemical reactions occurring in your body."

                        Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                        • S soap brain

                          Why not? Brain damage and drug usage target only the brain, and yet have profound effects on the mind. How can the mind transcend the brain?

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                          kmg365
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                          ...you say this as I migrate my OS and development tools from the "brain" of my laptop to the "brain" of my virtual server host. The software has changed brains and has gone to a better place.

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                            I never said that chemistry can't affect the mind, I am not convinced that the "mind is simply the sum of the chemical reactions occurring in your body."

                            Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                            soap brain
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                            So what is it? If it's not matter, then why is it so strongly affected by chemicals and yet completely undetectable? If I were to take a clump of neurons and carefully, one by one, wire them together like they are in the brain, at what point do they have a mind?

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                              ...you say this as I migrate my OS and development tools from the "brain" of my laptop to the "brain" of my virtual server host. The software has changed brains and has gone to a better place.

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                              soap brain
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                              The hard drives have physically altered their structures. The software doesn't transcend them, it's encoded onto them.

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                                I never said that chemistry can't affect the mind, I am not convinced that the "mind is simply the sum of the chemical reactions occurring in your body."

                                Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                                Lost User
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                                Gary Kirkham wrote:

                                I am not convinced that the "mind is simply the sum of the chemical reactions occurring in your body."

                                Just out of curiosity - hypothetically speaking, what evidence would you require to be convinced of this?

                                - F

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                                  Or that premarital sex leads to dancing. :)

                                  Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                                  MidwestLimey
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                                  Dancing is yet to be proven, but it has been linked to accelerated marriage plans.

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                                    Gary Kirkham wrote:

                                    I am not convinced that the "mind is simply the sum of the chemical reactions occurring in your body."

                                    Just out of curiosity - hypothetically speaking, what evidence would you require to be convinced of this?

                                    - F

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                                    Gary Kirkham
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                                    Whatcha got?

                                    Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read

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                                      The hard drives have physically altered their structures. The software doesn't transcend them, it's encoded onto them.

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                                      kmg365
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                                      Software thinks it has a physical hard drive, but now it's drives are spiri.... virtual.

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                                      • S soap brain

                                        If only I showed restraint and maturity in deciding which symbols to care about. Like Grilled Cheese Virgin Mary[^], Potato Chip Jesus[^], Fishstick Jesus[^], Rotten Grape Mary[^], Tree Mary[^], Mother Theresa Cinnamon Bun[^], Potato Mary[^], and of course Virgin Mary Cerebellum[^]. If only I wasn't so hung up on the symbolic insignificance of 77,300 scholarly articles [^] on the phenomenon of brain damage causing personality change.

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                                        Synaptrik
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                                        I actually have a box with a ship model in it that's pretty old, and has a stain with the immortal face of James Brown on it. I swear it. Now switch your religion to the grandfather of funk.

                                        This statement is false

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                                          Gary Kirkham wrote:

                                          I am not convinced that the "mind is simply the sum of the chemical reactions occurring in your body."

                                          Just out of curiosity - hypothetically speaking, what evidence would you require to be convinced of this?

                                          - F

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                                          Synaptrik
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                                          Just out of curiosity, why is it important to manipulate another's beliefs? And yes, that applies to Gary as well.

                                          This statement is false

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