Now she's pissed!
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How did California deal with it?
You really gotta try harder to keep up with everyone that's not on the short bus with you. - John Simmons / outlaw programmer.
Brady Kelly wrote:
How did California deal with it?
by throwing a pissy fit and literally threatening the lives of people that opposed same sex marriage. the "battle" began as a public referendum and it outlawed same sex marriage. the gay and lesbian community along with their backers took the issue of the referendum to the state supreme court that ruled it unconstituitional. the opponents of same sex marriage then sponsored an amendment to the state constituition, and it passed. now the gay and lesbian community are trying to get that same state supreme court to say that an amendment to the state constituition is unconstituitional. so the blathering you see earlier in the thread about local decisions is precisely that, blathering.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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Brady Kelly wrote:
How did California deal with it?
by throwing a pissy fit and literally threatening the lives of people that opposed same sex marriage. the "battle" began as a public referendum and it outlawed same sex marriage. the gay and lesbian community along with their backers took the issue of the referendum to the state supreme court that ruled it unconstituitional. the opponents of same sex marriage then sponsored an amendment to the state constituition, and it passed. now the gay and lesbian community are trying to get that same state supreme court to say that an amendment to the state constituition is unconstituitional. so the blathering you see earlier in the thread about local decisions is precisely that, blathering.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
so the blathering you see earlier in the thread about local decisions is precisely that, blathering.
Bullshit. I have no problem with the results in the CA election. What I have a problem with is people who want the federal government being involved in local issues.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
so the blathering you see earlier in the thread about local decisions is precisely that, blathering.
Bullshit. I have no problem with the results in the CA election. What I have a problem with is people who want the federal government being involved in local issues.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
Chris Austin wrote:
What I have a problem with is people who want the federal government being involved in local issues.
and I agree whole heartedly, but you made an assumption that was unwarranted.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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So she's into the 'our country' thing but doesn't agree with our founding fathers that these things should be handled at the local level. She wants it to be dictated from on high by a central government? Sounds like a typical liberal to me. :)
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
Chris Austin wrote:
So she's into the 'our country' thing but doesn't agree with our founding fathers that these things should be handled at the local level. She wants it to be dictated from on high by a central government? Sounds like a typical liberal to me. :)
Please! You're not stupid. And it's near impossible to believe that you so ignorant about what hase been going on for at least 50 years that you simply can't see the falsity of what you've said. There is only one other option to explain why you'd say this false thing.
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Chris Austin wrote:
What I have a problem with is people who want the federal government being involved in local issues.
and I agree whole heartedly, but you made an assumption that was unwarranted.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
I am too cynical to believe that she and her group are in the capitol and will not be lobbying congress. Are you willing to take odds that it wont happen?
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Oakman wrote:
here's a Congresscritter from Texas in the House of Reps who is putting together a law forbidding the NCAA from calling any game a national college football championship unless it is the product of a playoff series.......
Yeah, and then they talk about leaving the union because uncle sugar has gone too far.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
Chris Austin wrote: Yeah, and then they talk about leaving the union because uncle sugar has gone too far. But that was about taxes, this is about protecting the world from the possibility that the Sooners and the Warriors will play for a national championship without a chance for the Aggies' alumni to get into drunken brawls in the stadium parking lot. God God, man, have you no sense of priorities???
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Chris Austin wrote:
So she's into the 'our country' thing but doesn't agree with our founding fathers that these things should be handled at the local level. She wants it to be dictated from on high by a central government? Sounds like a typical liberal to me. :)
Please! You're not stupid. And it's near impossible to believe that you so ignorant about what hase been going on for at least 50 years that you simply can't see the falsity of what you've said. There is only one other option to explain why you'd say this false thing.
Ilíon wrote: There is only one other option to explain why you'd say this. Absolutely. He just doesn't understand that sauce for the gander is not sauce for the goose. You tell him!
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Chris Austin wrote:
So she's into the 'our country' thing but doesn't agree with our founding fathers that these things should be handled at the local level. She wants it to be dictated from on high by a central government? Sounds like a typical liberal to me. :)
Please! You're not stupid. And it's near impossible to believe that you so ignorant about what hase been going on for at least 50 years that you simply can't see the falsity of what you've said. There is only one other option to explain why you'd say this false thing.
Ilíon wrote:
And it's near impossible to believe that you so ignorant about what hase been going on for at least 50
You mean the federal government becoming more and more involved with the daily lives of it's citizens? Or, do you mean the republican and democratic party abandoning all sense of the rule of law? Or, do you mean bills being passed in congress and signed by the president that are the equivalent of a Rube Goldberg machine in writing? Or, do you mean the complete loss of level headiness by the electorate as the country seems like it is on a course to continually swing from one extreme of leadership to the other and people outsource their thinking to talking heads on radio and TV? Or, is it the complete lack of long term thinking in this country that you are referring to? Because there has been a lot of bs happening during my lifetime and I really want nothing to do with it.
Ilíon wrote:
You're not stupid.
Maybe I am. But, I never want to be the smartest person in the room.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Chris Austin wrote: Yeah, and then they talk about leaving the union because uncle sugar has gone too far. But that was about taxes, this is about protecting the world from the possibility that the Sooners and the Warriors will play for a national championship without a chance for the Aggies' alumni to get into drunken brawls in the stadium parking lot. God God, man, have you no sense of priorities???
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
But that was about taxes, this is about protecting the world from the possibility that the Sooners and the Warriors will
HAHA... Texas and their football mythology. The entire state is still feeling insecure that if you count all of the national championships from all of the football teams they still don't come close to po dunk Oklahoma and Nebraska.
Oakman wrote:
God God, man, have you no sense of priorities???
I'll have to work on it. Boomer!
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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I am too cynical to believe that she and her group are in the capitol and will not be lobbying congress. Are you willing to take odds that it wont happen?
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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New York - The reigning Miss California has gone to Washington to help launch a campaign opposing same-sex marriage. [^]
You really gotta try harder to keep up with everyone that's not on the short bus with you. - John Simmons / outlaw programmer.
Well, it's obviously retarded ( she's DEFENDING marriage ? How about defending it from a 50% divorce rate ? ).
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
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So she's into the 'our country' thing but doesn't agree with our founding fathers that these things should be handled at the local level. She wants it to be dictated from on high by a central government? Sounds like a typical liberal to me. :)
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
Chris Austin wrote:
So she's into the 'our country' thing but doesn't agree with our founding fathers that these things should be handled at the local level. She wants it to be dictated from on high by a central government? Sounds like a typical liberal to me
Were you equally upset when the federal government destroyed states rights on issues such as abortion, sodomy and flag burning?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Chris Austin wrote:
So she's into the 'our country' thing but doesn't agree with our founding fathers that these things should be handled at the local level. She wants it to be dictated from on high by a central government? Sounds like a typical liberal to me
Were you equally upset when the federal government destroyed states rights on issues such as abortion, sodomy and flag burning?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote: Were you equally upset when the federal government destroyed states rights on issues such as abortion, sodomy and flag burning? You forgot slavery and later miscegenation
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Stan Shannon wrote: Were you equally upset when the federal government destroyed states rights on issues such as abortion, sodomy and flag burning? You forgot slavery and later miscegenation
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
You forgot slavery and later miscegenation
Slavery was ended by amending the constitution, which is entirely appropriate. But you are correct to point out that I omitted miscegenation.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Chris Austin wrote:
So she's into the 'our country' thing but doesn't agree with our founding fathers that these things should be handled at the local level. She wants it to be dictated from on high by a central government? Sounds like a typical liberal to me
Were you equally upset when the federal government destroyed states rights on issues such as abortion, sodomy and flag burning?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Of course. I am not being selective about issues here. In fact, I don't even think the government should be involved in the definition of a marriage since it is traditionally a religious institution. But I think the results should stand. Heck, even with something like health care I prefer to see it decided by the states.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Of course. I am not being selective about issues here. In fact, I don't even think the government should be involved in the definition of a marriage since it is traditionally a religious institution. But I think the results should stand. Heck, even with something like health care I prefer to see it decided by the states.
Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
Cool. Me too.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.