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  • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

    When I was still at Sonardyne we had real issues with stability of the VC6 IDE - it quite simply doesn't handle large codebases (96 projects at the time IIRC) well, and would crash something like 50% of the time you opened the workspace. Deleting the .ncb file didn't help - we reckon the flaw was in the Class View itself.

    Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Tech Blog | Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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    Yeah, the most I've ever had in terms of projects in one solution, VC++ or VS, is 8 or 10. I get the distinct impression that MS has never tested the IDE with large numbers of projects. All that "eating their own dog food" propaganda aside, you can bet their internal build process is some sort of batch system. If their own devs had to deal with the instabilities that we cope with on a daily basis, it would be fixed in a heartbeat. Maybe we should start an Internet campaign to send the VS team thousands of bags of Purina Dog Chow. :cool:

    Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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      Yeah, the most I've ever had in terms of projects in one solution, VC++ or VS, is 8 or 10. I get the distinct impression that MS has never tested the IDE with large numbers of projects. All that "eating their own dog food" propaganda aside, you can bet their internal build process is some sort of batch system. If their own devs had to deal with the instabilities that we cope with on a daily basis, it would be fixed in a heartbeat. Maybe we should start an Internet campaign to send the VS team thousands of bags of Purina Dog Chow. :cool:

      Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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      Christopher Duncan wrote:

      Yeah, the most I've ever had in terms of projects in one solution, VC++ or VS, is 8 or 10. I get the distinct impression that MS has never tested the IDE with large numbers of projects. All that "eating their own dog food" propaganda aside, you can bet their internal build process is some sort of batch system.

      I can well imagine. We're up to 26 projects in our main codebase now, so I'm crossing my fingers we don't run into any of those sort of problems here!

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      If their own devs had to deal with the instabilities that we cope with on a daily basis, it would be fixed in a heartbeat. Maybe we should start an Internet campaign to send the VS team thousands of bags of Purina Dog Chow.

      Now that sounds like a plan... :evil grin:

      Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Tech Blog | Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        The IDE crashes almost every time I right click on the "Properties" tree item in my WPF project. By "Crashes", I mean, the program just shuts down without so much as a whimper.

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        Do you still grab red-hot coals out of fires with your bare hands too? If you refuse to learn, you'll get little sympathy from me. As Bill Cosby said, "Tonto, don't go to town!"

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          Do you still grab red-hot coals out of fires with your bare hands too? If you refuse to learn, you'll get little sympathy from me. As Bill Cosby said, "Tonto, don't go to town!"

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          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

          Do you still grab red-hot coals out of fires with your bare hands too?

          well... YEAH!!!

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            That worked for now, but I'm sure I'll have to do it again in an hour or so. BTW, I've only seen reports of this problem on Vista64 machines (coincidentally, that's what I have on this box).

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            I use Vista64, too.

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              Yeah, the most I've ever had in terms of projects in one solution, VC++ or VS, is 8 or 10. I get the distinct impression that MS has never tested the IDE with large numbers of projects. All that "eating their own dog food" propaganda aside, you can bet their internal build process is some sort of batch system. If their own devs had to deal with the instabilities that we cope with on a daily basis, it would be fixed in a heartbeat. Maybe we should start an Internet campaign to send the VS team thousands of bags of Purina Dog Chow. :cool:

              Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              My largest solution has sixty-one projects and it gives me no trouble.

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                The IDE crashes almost every time I right click on the "Properties" tree item in my WPF project. By "Crashes", I mean, the program just shuts down without so much as a whimper.

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                -----
                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                Pete OHanlon
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                Try installing this[^] patch.

                "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                  Try installing this[^] patch.

                  "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                  As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                  realJSOP
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                  Why do they feel the need to manage my downloads? That TFM crap better not interfere with any of the other stuff I do...

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    Try installing this[^] patch.

                    "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                    As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                    BTW, which installer do I run? X64 or X86? I'm running on a Dell with Vista64...

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      BTW, which installer do I run? X64 or X86? I'm running on a Dell with Vista64...

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                      -----
                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      x64. x86 = 32 bit version.

                      It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        BTW, which installer do I run? X64 or X86? I'm running on a Dell with Vista64...

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                        -----
                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        I believe it's the Windows6.0-KB963676-x64.msu one.

                        "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                        As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          BTW, which installer do I run? X64 or X86? I'm running on a Dell with Vista64...

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                          -----
                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          PS IA64 = the Intel Itantic. (kinda amazed MS is still supporting it at all).

                          It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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