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VS2008 is utter rubbish.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "I am new to programming world. I have been learning c# for about past four weeks. I am quite acquainted with the fundamentals of c#. Now I have to work on a project which converts given flat files to XML using the XML serialization method" - SK64 ( but the forums have stuff like this posted every day )
Christian Graus wrote:
VS2008 is utter rubbish.
Really? I use it only for native code debugging and that part works just fine.
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Well, no, only the WPF designer. The whole thing is very stable in my experience. Maybe I'm just lucky.
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I must be lucky too. I do get crashes occassionally in the Windows Forms designer. Apart from that, it's steady eddy.
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The inevitable result of a product with no competition.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
Heh. Hence your rant the other week. You have a point.
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Had I mentioned yet that Win Forms is much nicer? ;P
Wout
I wouldn't say that. We have had WinForms designer issues since VS2003. It's slightly better in 2008, but we still get designer crashes.
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I don't know if there's a fix in here somewhere, but I remember that back in the good old days of VC++ 6, it would occasionally get squirrely, and the fix was to delete the .ncb file and restart. The ncb would get regenerated, and then life was good again. Apparently there was a periodic corruption in the file which the IDE didn't take kindly to. Given that Visual Studio is actually Visual Basic with some extras shoved in, I don't know if there's a parallel here, but it might be worth looking into.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
When I was still at Sonardyne we had real issues with stability of the VC6 IDE - it quite simply doesn't handle large codebases (96 projects at the time IIRC) well, and would crash something like 50% of the time you opened the workspace. Deleting the .ncb file didn't help - we reckon the flaw was in the Class View itself.
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When I was still at Sonardyne we had real issues with stability of the VC6 IDE - it quite simply doesn't handle large codebases (96 projects at the time IIRC) well, and would crash something like 50% of the time you opened the workspace. Deleting the .ncb file didn't help - we reckon the flaw was in the Class View itself.
Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Tech Blog | Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"
Yeah, the most I've ever had in terms of projects in one solution, VC++ or VS, is 8 or 10. I get the distinct impression that MS has never tested the IDE with large numbers of projects. All that "eating their own dog food" propaganda aside, you can bet their internal build process is some sort of batch system. If their own devs had to deal with the instabilities that we cope with on a daily basis, it would be fixed in a heartbeat. Maybe we should start an Internet campaign to send the VS team thousands of bags of Purina Dog Chow. :cool:
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
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Yeah, the most I've ever had in terms of projects in one solution, VC++ or VS, is 8 or 10. I get the distinct impression that MS has never tested the IDE with large numbers of projects. All that "eating their own dog food" propaganda aside, you can bet their internal build process is some sort of batch system. If their own devs had to deal with the instabilities that we cope with on a daily basis, it would be fixed in a heartbeat. Maybe we should start an Internet campaign to send the VS team thousands of bags of Purina Dog Chow. :cool:
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
Christopher Duncan wrote:
Yeah, the most I've ever had in terms of projects in one solution, VC++ or VS, is 8 or 10. I get the distinct impression that MS has never tested the IDE with large numbers of projects. All that "eating their own dog food" propaganda aside, you can bet their internal build process is some sort of batch system.
I can well imagine. We're up to 26 projects in our main codebase now, so I'm crossing my fingers we don't run into any of those sort of problems here!
Christopher Duncan wrote:
If their own devs had to deal with the instabilities that we cope with on a daily basis, it would be fixed in a heartbeat. Maybe we should start an Internet campaign to send the VS team thousands of bags of Purina Dog Chow.
Now that sounds like a plan... :evil grin:
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The IDE crashes almost every time I right click on the "Properties" tree item in my WPF project. By "Crashes", I mean, the program just shuts down without so much as a whimper.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Do you still grab red-hot coals out of fires with your bare hands too? If you refuse to learn, you'll get little sympathy from me. As Bill Cosby said, "Tonto, don't go to town!"
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Do you still grab red-hot coals out of fires with your bare hands too? If you refuse to learn, you'll get little sympathy from me. As Bill Cosby said, "Tonto, don't go to town!"
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
Do you still grab red-hot coals out of fires with your bare hands too?
well... YEAH!!!
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
That worked for now, but I'm sure I'll have to do it again in an hour or so. BTW, I've only seen reports of this problem on Vista64 machines (coincidentally, that's what I have on this box).
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I use Vista64, too.
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Yeah, the most I've ever had in terms of projects in one solution, VC++ or VS, is 8 or 10. I get the distinct impression that MS has never tested the IDE with large numbers of projects. All that "eating their own dog food" propaganda aside, you can bet their internal build process is some sort of batch system. If their own devs had to deal with the instabilities that we cope with on a daily basis, it would be fixed in a heartbeat. Maybe we should start an Internet campaign to send the VS team thousands of bags of Purina Dog Chow. :cool:
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
My largest solution has sixty-one projects and it gives me no trouble.
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The IDE crashes almost every time I right click on the "Properties" tree item in my WPF project. By "Crashes", I mean, the program just shuts down without so much as a whimper.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
Why do they feel the need to manage my downloads? That TFM crap better not interfere with any of the other stuff I do...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
BTW, which installer do I run? X64 or X86? I'm running on a Dell with Vista64...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
BTW, which installer do I run? X64 or X86? I'm running on a Dell with Vista64...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
BTW, which installer do I run? X64 or X86? I'm running on a Dell with Vista64...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I believe it's the Windows6.0-KB963676-x64.msu one.
"WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith
As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.
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BTW, which installer do I run? X64 or X86? I'm running on a Dell with Vista64...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
