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  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

    So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?

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    Dalek Dave
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    2Gig at work, 1Gig at home :( But due an upgrade soon, so who knows what I will get next time!

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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      My work machine - 3 GB My home iMac - 4 GB My home Macbook - 4 GB My home Laptop - 1 GB The only reason I need more than 4 GB is because I want to run more VMs. 12 GB is not overkill if you plan to run VMs.

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      Jim Crafton
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      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

      12 GB is not overkill if you plan to run VMs.

      Very good point!

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      • J Judah Gabriel Himango

        So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?

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        Lost User
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        4GB, for XP x64. I bought it over a year ago, I thought I'd have to upgrade by this time.. but I don't. 4GB is still enormous overkill. I almost never need more than 2GB. But Vista is different, even with 12GB it probably still wastes it all. I've heard weven is better in this regard.

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          Judah Himango wrote:

          Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill?

          Can Vista even use that much? See here.

          Judah Himango wrote:

          How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?

          I don't develop on Vista. The Vista laptop I do use, however, has 2GB. It's slow starting and doing other tasks. If I used it more, I would consider bumping it up to 3GB.

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          Jim Crafton
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          DavidCrow wrote:

          Can Vista even use that much?

          Vista 64 sure can (and does).

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            My work machine - 3 GB My home iMac - 4 GB My home Macbook - 4 GB My home Laptop - 1 GB The only reason I need more than 4 GB is because I want to run more VMs. 12 GB is not overkill if you plan to run VMs.

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            Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

            My work machine - 3 GB My home iMac - 4 GB My home Macbook - 4 GB My home Laptop - 1 GB

            So you sum up a point. Mac sucks, sucks out RAM. :rolleyes:

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            • D Dan Neely

              Work: 2Gb in a D630 c2d 2ghz laptop XP32 Home: 6gb in a I920@3.85 box Vista Ultimate 64 4gb in an acer c1d 1.73 laptop, Vista Prem 32 2gb in an a64x2 box, XP32 1gb in a msi wind netbook, XP32, Weven32 (1.5gb whenever I get around to finding the old 512mb dimms from the Acer laptop)

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              Judah Gabriel Himango
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              Do you feel and improvement from 4gb to 6gb?

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              • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?

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                PIEBALDconsult
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                That's kind of a personal question. :~ My two AlphaServers say: Main Memory (256.00MB) Main Memory (128.00Mb) Well, OK, when I upgraded my Wintel system last January to a Core 2 Quad I bought 4GB of RAM intending to go to 64-bit XP, but so far I'm still using 32-bit XP which reports 3GB. And it's running just fine.

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                • D David Crow

                  Judah Himango wrote:

                  Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill?

                  Can Vista even use that much? See here.

                  Judah Himango wrote:

                  How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?

                  I don't develop on Vista. The Vista laptop I do use, however, has 2GB. It's slow starting and doing other tasks. If I used it more, I would consider bumping it up to 3GB.

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                  Judah Gabriel Himango
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                  DavidCrow wrote:

                  Can Vista even use that much? See here.

                  Huh? Maybe I'm a bad reader, but I see nothing in that article about maximum amount of memory. I would assume, and I'm pretty certain it's true, that x64 Vista can easily handle 12 GB. I just did some searching around the net and it seems x64 Vista supports up to 128 GB of RAM!

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                  • L leppie

                    Judah Himango wrote:

                    Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill?

                    Of course not :) Just imagine how snappy everything will be when Windows does not need to ever go to the swap file!

                    Judah Himango wrote:

                    How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?

                    Maxed on my 32-bit Vista :(

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                    Judah Gabriel Himango
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                    leppie wrote:

                    Of course not Just imagine how snappy everything will be when Windows does not need to ever go to the swap file!

                    Heh. Interesting, I hadn't thought of that. Since I've already got 4GBs, it will take about $150 to bring me up to 12 GB. That's not too bad! I think I may just do this. Thanks leppie. By the way, why are you running 32-bit OS still?

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                    • J Jim Crafton

                      Judah Himango wrote:

                      Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill?

                      What are you using it for? For general development I'd say yes. If you're planning on writing the next generation 2D/3D graphics app then maybe not. I've got 6GB on Vista 64, and this past weekend got to see a program use up to 5.4 Gb of RAM while rendering a sequence (only about 1800 frames - about 60 seconds)! First time I'd ever personally seen that.

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                      Judah Gabriel Himango
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                      For everything. Development, gaming, CD & DVD burning, etc.

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                      • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                        So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?

                        Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango

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                        daniilzol
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                        2GB at work, sometimes it's not enough, but mainly because of too many tabs open in Firefox. Over time its memory usage creeps over 500MB so I have to periodically restart it to keep memory usage in check. At home 4-8GB except for really old PCs and my netbook.

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                          4GB, for XP x64. I bought it over a year ago, I thought I'd have to upgrade by this time.. but I don't. 4GB is still enormous overkill. I almost never need more than 2GB. But Vista is different, even with 12GB it probably still wastes it all. I've heard weven is better in this regard.

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                          Judah Gabriel Himango
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                          harold aptroot wrote:

                          But Vista is different, even with 12GB it probably still wastes it all

                          Lol. I think Vista gets bad rep in that department[^]. I must say I'm pretty happy with performance so far, but the thought of 12 GB is just geeking me out. :)

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                            So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?

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                            MidwestLimey
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                            2Gb at work - barely enough. 6Gb at home (with another suspect 6Gb currently not in use) - More then enough. I'll probably try the other 6 again to see if it was the source of my instability. 12Gb just has a nice ring :D 512Mb in my home server, plenty enough for that box.

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                              Work: 2Gb in a D630 c2d 2ghz laptop XP32 Home: 6gb in a I920@3.85 box Vista Ultimate 64 4gb in an acer c1d 1.73 laptop, Vista Prem 32 2gb in an a64x2 box, XP32 1gb in a msi wind netbook, XP32, Weven32 (1.5gb whenever I get around to finding the old 512mb dimms from the Acer laptop)

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                              MidwestLimey
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                              dan neely wrote:

                              I920@3.85

                              Impressive, what's your cooling on that?

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                                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                My work machine - 3 GB My home iMac - 4 GB My home Macbook - 4 GB My home Laptop - 1 GB

                                So you sum up a point. Mac sucks, sucks out RAM. :rolleyes:

                                Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.

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                                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                Only because I am running Windows VM sometimes. ;)

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                                • J Jim Crafton

                                  leppie wrote:

                                  Just imagine how snappy everything will be when Windows does not need to ever go to the swap file!

                                  That raises an interesting question I've been thinking about for a while. Given the amount of RAM that a lot of people have, what would happen if you just set the Swap file size to 0? Does Windows run faster? Will it even let you do this?

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                                  Jeff Circeo
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                                  you'll want the swap if you run out of ram. I wouldn't consider it unless you had way more ram than you need ...enough ram to run all the apps you use at once.

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                                  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                                    leppie wrote:

                                    Of course not Just imagine how snappy everything will be when Windows does not need to ever go to the swap file!

                                    Heh. Interesting, I hadn't thought of that. Since I've already got 4GBs, it will take about $150 to bring me up to 12 GB. That's not too bad! I think I may just do this. Thanks leppie. By the way, why are you running 32-bit OS still?

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                                    Judah Himango wrote:

                                    By the way, why are you running 32-bit OS still?

                                    Just because :) My RAM slots are full anyways I think.

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                                    • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                                      harold aptroot wrote:

                                      But Vista is different, even with 12GB it probably still wastes it all

                                      Lol. I think Vista gets bad rep in that department[^]. I must say I'm pretty happy with performance so far, but the thought of 12 GB is just geeking me out. :)

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                                      The cache vs free thing is actually unrelated (naming failure is all it is, "free" should include "cached") I was referring to all the Vista bloat that makes it use 1GB ("total" minus ("free"+"cached")) of RAM to show a desktop, versus 200MB-ish for XP. edit: by the way, I run XP without swap. Much faster.

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                                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                        Only because I am running Windows VM sometimes. ;)

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                                        ROFL! :) Vista probably.

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                                        • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                                          So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?

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                                          Jeff Circeo
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                                          8 gig on a dual quad core xeno :-D if I only had a job I wouldn't be thinking of selling it :(

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