How much RAM you have?
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My work machine - 3 GB My home iMac - 4 GB My home Macbook - 4 GB My home Laptop - 1 GB The only reason I need more than 4 GB is because I want to run more VMs. 12 GB is not overkill if you plan to run VMs.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
My work machine - 3 GB My home iMac - 4 GB My home Macbook - 4 GB My home Laptop - 1 GB
So you sum up a point. Mac sucks, sucks out RAM. :rolleyes:
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Work: 2Gb in a D630 c2d 2ghz laptop XP32 Home: 6gb in a I920@3.85 box Vista Ultimate 64 4gb in an acer c1d 1.73 laptop, Vista Prem 32 2gb in an a64x2 box, XP32 1gb in a msi wind netbook, XP32, Weven32 (1.5gb whenever I get around to finding the old 512mb dimms from the Acer laptop)
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Do you feel and improvement from 4gb to 6gb?
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
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That's kind of a personal question. :~ My two AlphaServers say: Main Memory (256.00MB) Main Memory (128.00Mb) Well, OK, when I upgraded my Wintel system last January to a Core 2 Quad I bought 4GB of RAM intending to go to 64-bit XP, but so far I'm still using 32-bit XP which reports 3GB. And it's running just fine.
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Judah Himango wrote:
Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill?
Can Vista even use that much? See here.
Judah Himango wrote:
How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
I don't develop on Vista. The Vista laptop I do use, however, has 2GB. It's slow starting and doing other tasks. If I used it more, I would consider bumping it up to 3GB.
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DavidCrow wrote:
Can Vista even use that much? See here.
Huh? Maybe I'm a bad reader, but I see nothing in that article about maximum amount of memory. I would assume, and I'm pretty certain it's true, that x64 Vista can easily handle 12 GB. I just did some searching around the net and it seems x64 Vista supports up to 128 GB of RAM!
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Judah Himango wrote:
Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill?
Of course not :) Just imagine how snappy everything will be when Windows does not need to ever go to the swap file!
Judah Himango wrote:
How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
Maxed on my 32-bit Vista :(
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Of course not Just imagine how snappy everything will be when Windows does not need to ever go to the swap file!
Heh. Interesting, I hadn't thought of that. Since I've already got 4GBs, it will take about $150 to bring me up to 12 GB. That's not too bad! I think I may just do this. Thanks leppie. By the way, why are you running 32-bit OS still?
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Judah Himango wrote:
Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill?
What are you using it for? For general development I'd say yes. If you're planning on writing the next generation 2D/3D graphics app then maybe not. I've got 6GB on Vista 64, and this past weekend got to see a program use up to 5.4 Gb of RAM while rendering a sequence (only about 1800 frames - about 60 seconds)! First time I'd ever personally seen that.
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For everything. Development, gaming, CD & DVD burning, etc.
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
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2GB at work, sometimes it's not enough, but mainly because of too many tabs open in Firefox. Over time its memory usage creeps over 500MB so I have to periodically restart it to keep memory usage in check. At home 4-8GB except for really old PCs and my netbook.
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4GB, for XP x64. I bought it over a year ago, I thought I'd have to upgrade by this time.. but I don't. 4GB is still enormous overkill. I almost never need more than 2GB. But Vista is different, even with 12GB it probably still wastes it all. I've heard weven is better in this regard.
harold aptroot wrote:
But Vista is different, even with 12GB it probably still wastes it all
Lol. I think Vista gets bad rep in that department[^]. I must say I'm pretty happy with performance so far, but the thought of 12 GB is just geeking me out. :)
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
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2Gb at work - barely enough. 6Gb at home (with another suspect 6Gb currently not in use) - More then enough. I'll probably try the other 6 again to see if it was the source of my instability. 12Gb just has a nice ring :D 512Mb in my home server, plenty enough for that box.
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Work: 2Gb in a D630 c2d 2ghz laptop XP32 Home: 6gb in a I920@3.85 box Vista Ultimate 64 4gb in an acer c1d 1.73 laptop, Vista Prem 32 2gb in an a64x2 box, XP32 1gb in a msi wind netbook, XP32, Weven32 (1.5gb whenever I get around to finding the old 512mb dimms from the Acer laptop)
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dan neely wrote:
I920@3.85
Impressive, what's your cooling on that?
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
My work machine - 3 GB My home iMac - 4 GB My home Macbook - 4 GB My home Laptop - 1 GB
So you sum up a point. Mac sucks, sucks out RAM. :rolleyes:
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
Only because I am running Windows VM sometimes. ;)
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leppie wrote:
Just imagine how snappy everything will be when Windows does not need to ever go to the swap file!
That raises an interesting question I've been thinking about for a while. Given the amount of RAM that a lot of people have, what would happen if you just set the Swap file size to 0? Does Windows run faster? Will it even let you do this?
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you'll want the swap if you run out of ram. I wouldn't consider it unless you had way more ram than you need ...enough ram to run all the apps you use at once.
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leppie wrote:
Of course not Just imagine how snappy everything will be when Windows does not need to ever go to the swap file!
Heh. Interesting, I hadn't thought of that. Since I've already got 4GBs, it will take about $150 to bring me up to 12 GB. That's not too bad! I think I may just do this. Thanks leppie. By the way, why are you running 32-bit OS still?
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harold aptroot wrote:
But Vista is different, even with 12GB it probably still wastes it all
Lol. I think Vista gets bad rep in that department[^]. I must say I'm pretty happy with performance so far, but the thought of 12 GB is just geeking me out. :)
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The cache vs free thing is actually unrelated (naming failure is all it is, "free" should include "cached") I was referring to all the Vista bloat that makes it use 1GB ("total" minus ("free"+"cached")) of RAM to show a desktop, versus 200MB-ish for XP. edit: by the way, I run XP without swap. Much faster.
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Only because I am running Windows VM sometimes. ;)
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
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8 gig on a dual quad core xeno :-D if I only had a job I wouldn't be thinking of selling it :(
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leppie wrote:
Just imagine how snappy everything will be when Windows does not need to ever go to the swap file!
That raises an interesting question I've been thinking about for a while. Given the amount of RAM that a lot of people have, what would happen if you just set the Swap file size to 0? Does Windows run faster? Will it even let you do this?
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Jim Crafton wrote:
what would happen if you just set the Swap file size to 0? Does Windows run faster? Will it even let you do this?
I will let you, but it gives a warning that it should be at least the size of the RAM. This will only be used in case of BSOD for a full memory dump. If you can live with the mini dump (that is 64kb I think), you can probably get away with a 1mb, not sure if it will take 0.
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
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Judah Himango wrote:
How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
At work - 8 Gb. At home (not a dedicated dev machine but I do some programming on it) - 2Gb (x86)
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Do you feel and improvement from 4gb to 6gb?
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My main machine was the desktop so I went from 2 to 6, and I definitely noticed that gain. The Acer only got 4gb because DDR2 was silly cheap. Going from 1 to 4 on it fixed the vista performance issues I'd had. The i7 has 6gb because it's triple channel, and I I figured I'd need more than that before I retired it (I was hitting 2.5ish gb peaks on my old system). As fast as DDR3 prices have fallen I'm now wishing I only bought 3gb of slower (1333) ram when I built it, and swapped in 6gb of fast ram (1600+) now that it's almost as cheap as DDR2. The i7 is much faster than the acer, but since it's got 8x the CPU throughput, 100X(??? gma945 vs GTX260-216) the GPU throughput, and a significantly faster HD as well I'm not sure how much is from the ram. IIRC I've gotten above 4gb of ram used so it's definitely helping some.
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Judah Himango wrote:
Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill?
Can Vista even use that much? See here.
Judah Himango wrote:
How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
I don't develop on Vista. The Vista laptop I do use, however, has 2GB. It's slow starting and doing other tasks. If I used it more, I would consider bumping it up to 3GB.
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DavidCrow wrote:
Judah Himango wrote: Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? Can Vista even use that much? See here.
The better x64 versions can. Basic does 8gb; Premium 16gb; Business, Enterprise, and Ultimate all support 128gb. Server08 can support upto 2TB of ram. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Vista-Maximum-Supported-RAM-44487.shtml[^] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsserver/cc196364.aspx[^]
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