How much RAM you have?
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
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Although VISTA 32 bit, in fact all 32bit OS can only use 3.25Gb I have 4Gb because it was a cheaper option. I also believe that a 64bit OS uses only 128Gb.
baudwalker wrote:
Although VISTA 32 bit, in fact all 32bit OS can only use 3.25Gb
That's not correct. Win32 can use about 3gb. It depends on the hardware you're using and how greedy your drivers are. I've seen people tweak their way to as much as 3.5gb free. My crap acer laptop's mobo driver grabs a full gig and mostly doesn't use it. Gaming machines with two high end video cards will often end up with only 2gb and change because every byte on the card takes a byte of the address space. PAE will let you use more than 3gb on a server, but since apps need to be written especially for it only a handful of server apps can benefit. Even then, many of them are just going with 64bit only since it's a much simpler programming model.
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
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Jim Crafton wrote:
what would happen if you just set the Swap file size to 0? Does Windows run faster? Will it even let you do this?
I will let you, but it gives a warning that it should be at least the size of the RAM. This will only be used in case of BSOD for a full memory dump. If you can live with the mini dump (that is 64kb I think), you can probably get away with a 1mb, not sure if it will take 0.
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((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))I use Vista Business x64 with 4 GiB of RAM and NO paging file. Didin't get any problems for over a year now.
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6GB so far and another 6GB coming this next week :-D , and with this build (i7 920 @ 3.2, 6GB 10666, Asus Gene II (capable of 24GB)) its the first time i actually like vista, before this i tried vista x86 (pre-SP1) with 3Gbs, and i freaking hated it so much i switched back to XP... the only thing i quite don't get is that the RAM being "used" is around 50% without any open program, that's obviously 3GB in apparently nothing... and i still wonder where the hell goes so much ram... but as the saying says, "when in doubt blame norton" so i blame thee norton (eventhou i dont have any norton product installed ;P )
Falcon_007 wrote:
6GB so far and another 6GB coming this next week
Lucky dog!
Falcon_007 wrote:
the only thing i quite don't get is that the RAM being "used" is around 50% without any open program, that's obviously 3GB in apparently nothing
See Jeff Atwood's excellent Why Does Vista Use All My Memory?[^]
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
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12GB on my new i7 920 machine. To be honest, I think its a bit overkill really as I've never seen less than 5GB free! even when running multiple copies of VS 2008, SQL server, VM's, office apps, browsers etc. I have disabled my swap file as it was huge! and have never ran into trouble. I have 8GB on my server (Quad Core) and 4GB on my Core 2 Duo laptop, all running on 64bit windows of course. The only reason I went to 12GB really was that my previous workstation had 8GB, and the motherboards was going to take either 6GB or 12GB and I wasnt going to end up with less on the new machine now was I :) Anyway, memory is so cheap nowadays. and more is always better (as long as you are on x64!) I remember paying 80 quid for 32MB years ago and I only paid slightly more for 6GB! Oh, and did I mention I have 4 monitors too :)
Can I come over to your house? :)
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Although VISTA 32 bit, in fact all 32bit OS can only use 3.25Gb I have 4Gb because it was a cheaper option. I also believe that a 64bit OS uses only 128Gb.
Right. Sounds like 64bit Vista Ultimate supports up to 128 GB -- far more than any reasonable desktop motherboard supports.
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
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Will your machine take 12GB then? Most desktop chips have a max of either 4 or 8. I have 2x2GB (4GB), and 7 RC x64.
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Will your machine take 12GB then? Most desktop chips have a max of either 4 or 8. I have 2x2GB (4GB), and 7 RC x64.
Yeppers. I've got 6 RAM slots. Currently, only 2 of them are filled with 2 sticks of 2GB. Theoretically, then, I can load it up with 12GB. (Or if I was made of money, I could buy 6 sticks of 4GB each, bringing me up to 24GB!)
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Although VISTA 32 bit, in fact all 32bit OS can only use 3.25Gb I have 4Gb because it was a cheaper option. I also believe that a 64bit OS uses only 128Gb.
2 to the power of 32 = 4,294,967,296 (4 gigabytes in bytes) 2 to the power of 64 = 1.84467441 × 10 to the power of 19 (16 exabytes in bytes) In case anyone is wondering, it goes byte kilobyte terabyte petabyte exabyte zettabyte yottabyte. When they invent 128bit processors, you will be able to have 3.40282367 × 10^38 bytes of RAM (2.81474977 × 10 to the power of 14 yottabytes) And that STILL won't be enough for Vista :-D
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Yeppers. I've got 6 RAM slots. Currently, only 2 of them are filled with 2 sticks of 2GB. Theoretically, then, I can load it up with 12GB. (Or if I was made of money, I could buy 6 sticks of 4GB each, bringing me up to 24GB!)
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What is your motherboard? While 24GB will fit, the chipset will definately not see that much.
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What is your motherboard? While 24GB will fit, the chipset will definately not see that much.
That's ok, I'm not actually interested in loading it up with 24. 12, maybe. We'll see.
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That's ok, I'm not actually interested in loading it up with 24. 12, maybe. We'll see.
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I do not know of a single chipset that will accept that much RAM. What is your motherboard?
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leppie wrote:
Just imagine how snappy everything will be when Windows does not need to ever go to the swap file!
That raises an interesting question I've been thinking about for a while. Given the amount of RAM that a lot of people have, what would happen if you just set the Swap file size to 0? Does Windows run faster? Will it even let you do this?
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I did that once on a 1 GB with windows XP PC, It runs a little faster but for some reason some games won't run or crash on certain instances, so I wouldn't recommend doing that.
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
Religiously blogging on the intarwebs since the early 21st century: Kineti L'Tziyon Judah Himango
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Falcon_007 wrote:
6GB so far and another 6GB coming this next week
Lucky dog!
Falcon_007 wrote:
the only thing i quite don't get is that the RAM being "used" is around 50% without any open program, that's obviously 3GB in apparently nothing
See Jeff Atwood's excellent Why Does Vista Use All My Memory?[^]
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Well thanks for the info! :thumbsup: the bad part about this is that, this is my Gaming machine so that superfecth is a treat to me :( , my dev machine is a VM with XP within this PC
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
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I've got 3 gigs with an AMD dual core/Windows Vista. Only time I've had a problem is when I get too many large images open in Adesign. Adesign will slow to a crawl because it has unlimited Undo/Redo. It's a bit of a memory hog.
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So I posted on CP last week about my Vista machine blue screening. It came down to a memory error. Someone suggested blowing the dust out of the RAM slots and swapping the 2 sticks. Good news: it seemed to work! I've been running for 2 days now without any blue screens, and the memory error detection tool in Vista can't find any errors. Wahooo! But it got me thinking: I'm running x64 with 4GB of RAM (2 sticks of 2GB each). I've got 6 slots for RAM, so I could theoretically load it up with 12 GB if I bought the cheap 2GB sticks. Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill? How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
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Tom's Hardware did an article on this a while ago: Do You Really Need More Than 6 GB Of RAM? . They found that for pretty much everything they tested for, there was almost no appreciable difference between 3GB and anything more than that. I suppose I could see adding a couple extra GB for a server, or if you're going to be using virtual machines a lot, but 12GB certainly seems like overkill to me. My desktop and laptop both have 3GB at the moment, and to be honest, I rarely ran out even when my desktop only had 1GB (though to be fair, I never really used Vista). 3GB is plenty for me for the time being.
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Judah Himango wrote:
Is 12 gigs of RAM overkill?
Of course not :) Just imagine how snappy everything will be when Windows does not need to ever go to the swap file!
Judah Himango wrote:
How much RAM do you guys have for your dev machines at home?
Maxed on my 32-bit Vista :(
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((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))I just finished building a new home workstation with a Core i7 920 and 12GB RAM on Win7 RC x64. I'm planning to be running multiple VMs on it, so I figured the RAM would be worth it, especially since it was as cheap as it will probably ever be. About 200 bucks for 12GB.