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  • L Lost User

    Is there a letter before Alpha? I want to label a release as a pre-alpha and just wondered if there was some name I could give it besides pre-Alpha?

    ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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    Aleph?

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      Is there a letter before Alpha? I want to label a release as a pre-alpha and just wondered if there was some name I could give it besides pre-Alpha?

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      Steve Echols
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      I think it's called a Proof of Concept or Prototype. A good symbol might be "?". Not sure how that translates into Greek. :)


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      • L Lost User

        Is there a letter before Alpha? I want to label a release as a pre-alpha and just wondered if there was some name I could give it besides pre-Alpha?

        ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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        Dalek Dave
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        Xero?

        ------------------------------------ "Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food and tyrannize their teachers. I despair for the future." Socrates 400BC

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        • L Lost User

          Is there a letter before Alpha? I want to label a release as a pre-alpha and just wondered if there was some name I could give it besides pre-Alpha?

          ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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          soap brain
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          You could use the Old English character eth ð or thorn þ

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          • L Lost User

            Is there a letter before Alpha? I want to label a release as a pre-alpha and just wondered if there was some name I could give it besides pre-Alpha?

            ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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            Hans Dietrich
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            I have seen some companies label such products "Community Version", aka discarded dogfood.

            Best wishes, Hans


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            • L Lost User

              Is there a letter before Alpha? I want to label a release as a pre-alpha and just wondered if there was some name I could give it besides pre-Alpha?

              ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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              Henry Minute
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              Alpha- or -Alpha

              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                I have seen some companies label such products "Community Version", aka discarded dogfood.

                Best wishes, Hans


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                CPallini
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                Welcome [^], Hans. :)

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                • M mango_lier

                  Yes, it is called Vista or Visual Studio 2008

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                  Rajesh R Subramanian
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                  I've been using VS 2008 for a year to do native language programming and I think that it's fantastic!

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                  • H Henry Minute

                    Alpha- or -Alpha

                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                    Simon P Stevens
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                    Or Alpha--

                    Simon

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                    • L Lost User

                      Is there a letter before Alpha? I want to label a release as a pre-alpha and just wondered if there was some name I could give it besides pre-Alpha?

                      ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                      realJSOP
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                      Use a space character. It best represents that blank stare you get when you tell the idiot asking for "pre-alpha" software that you were under the impression that a prototype is nothing more than a technology demo or proof of concept.

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      • M mango_lier

                        Yes, it is called Vista or Visual Studio 2008

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                        John M Drescher
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                        I would call both of those beta. And unlike what google calls beta these are full with bugs.

                        John

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                        • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                          I think it's called a Proof of Concept or Prototype. A good symbol might be "?". Not sure how that translates into Greek. :)


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                          Lost User
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                          Perhaps WTF?

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                          • R realJSOP

                            Use a space character. It best represents that blank stare you get when you tell the idiot asking for "pre-alpha" software that you were under the impression that a prototype is nothing more than a technology demo or proof of concept.

                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                            Lost User
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                            God I wish I could get you in to talk to my MD! 'tis he who thinks hte software is ready to release in the wild when frankly it is barely able to live in intensive care!

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                            • S soap brain

                              You could use the Old English character eth ð or thorn þ

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                              Lost User
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                              I like 'eth' - think og the fun with lisping customers :)

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                              • L Lost User

                                Is there a letter before Alpha? I want to label a release as a pre-alpha and just wondered if there was some name I could give it besides pre-Alpha?

                                ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                                Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                Maybe we should have a pre-meeting to prepare for the meeting first.

                                Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                                  Is there a letter before Alpha? I want to label a release as a pre-alpha and just wondered if there was some name I could give it besides pre-Alpha?

                                  ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                                  Ed Leighton Dick
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                                  Maxxx_ wrote:

                                  Is there a letter before Alpha?

                                  No. Alpha is the first letter in the Greek alphabet and is traditionally used as a designation for software that is in development. Alpha software is typically so incomplete and bug-ridden to be unusable, so it's not normally released to anyone except the developers working on it. That definition has been warped in recent years, partially by the eternal betas that seem to be en vogue right now, but most developers still follow it. If you do need to share it and it's so early in its development that you can't even consider it an alpha version, call it a prototype or proof-of-concept so it's clear what you're talking about. Ed

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                                    Maybe we should have a pre-meeting to prepare for the meeting first.

                                    Need custom software developed? I do C# development and consulting all over the United States. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                                    Lost User
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                                    I'm not sure that's a good idea. Could we have a meeting to discuss it?

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                                    • E Ed Leighton Dick

                                      Maxxx_ wrote:

                                      Is there a letter before Alpha?

                                      No. Alpha is the first letter in the Greek alphabet and is traditionally used as a designation for software that is in development. Alpha software is typically so incomplete and bug-ridden to be unusable, so it's not normally released to anyone except the developers working on it. That definition has been warped in recent years, partially by the eternal betas that seem to be en vogue right now, but most developers still follow it. If you do need to share it and it's so early in its development that you can't even consider it an alpha version, call it a prototype or proof-of-concept so it's clear what you're talking about. Ed

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Ed Leighton-Dick wrote:

                                      If you do need to share it and it's so early in its development that you can't even consider it an alpha version, call it a prototype or proof-of-concept so it's clear what you're talking about.

                                      If I had my way I'd call it a "pile of poo" - but those that make these decisions are insistent that it is ready for release (because you can run the application and log in and some pretty screens appear). I was hoping to find something to put in the 'Help..About' page to indicate its unreadyness without attracting the ire of those that pay the bills! Our Prodct Name Here - eth release 0.0.1234 or something

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                                        Ed Leighton-Dick wrote:

                                        If you do need to share it and it's so early in its development that you can't even consider it an alpha version, call it a prototype or proof-of-concept so it's clear what you're talking about.

                                        If I had my way I'd call it a "pile of poo" - but those that make these decisions are insistent that it is ready for release (because you can run the application and log in and some pretty screens appear). I was hoping to find something to put in the 'Help..About' page to indicate its unreadyness without attracting the ire of those that pay the bills! Our Prodct Name Here - eth release 0.0.1234 or something

                                        ___________________________________________ .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                                        Ed Leighton Dick
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                                        Ah, well, that's a different story, then. :) To satisfy those people, how about "preview release"?

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