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What determines matter's position in space?

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    Captain See Sharp
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    What properties of matter determines its position in the universe?

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      What properties of matter determines its position in the universe?

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      Mycroft Holmes
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      Slow day for you I guess!

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        What properties of matter determines its position in the universe?

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        _Damian S_
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        Its location with respect to other things?

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          Its location with respect to other things?

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          _Damian S_ wrote:

          Its location with respect to other things?

          Yes, what is it about the matter that determines its location in respect to other things?

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            Slow day for you I guess!

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            Mycroft Holmes wrote:

            Slow day for you I guess!

            Yeah these new Intel 4004 processors are fast but VS2008 really hammers it.

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              What properties of matter determines its position in the universe?

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              What is this "universe" of which you speak?

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                What properties of matter determines its position in the universe?

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                Lost User
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                its current velocity and the forces acting upon it.

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                  What properties of matter determines its position in the universe?

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                  Roger Wright
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                  The initial momentum 7 femtoseconds after its creation plus the vector sum of all its subsequent interactions with other particles, minus a smidgen for the times when it was totally dark.

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                    The initial momentum 7 femtoseconds after its creation plus the vector sum of all its subsequent interactions with other particles, minus a smidgen for the times when it was totally dark.

                    "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                    Roger Wright wrote:

                    The initial momentum 7 femtoseconds after its creation plus the vector sum of all its subsequent interactions with other particles, minus a smidgen for the times when it was totally dark.

                    So it is the interactions with the forces around it and the subsequent reactions that determine its position? What if it is a single particle or string in space? What determines its position then?

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                      The initial momentum 7 femtoseconds after its creation plus the vector sum of all its subsequent interactions with other particles, minus a smidgen for the times when it was totally dark.

                      "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                      _Damian S_
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                      Roger Wright wrote:

                      minus a smidgen

                      smidgen - (n) small pigeon...

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                        _Damian S_ wrote:

                        Its location with respect to other things?

                        Yes, what is it about the matter that determines its location in respect to other things?

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                        _Damian S_
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                        Its physical properties?

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                          Roger Wright wrote:

                          The initial momentum 7 femtoseconds after its creation plus the vector sum of all its subsequent interactions with other particles, minus a smidgen for the times when it was totally dark.

                          So it is the interactions with the forces around it and the subsequent reactions that determine its position? What if it is a single particle or string in space? What determines its position then?

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                          The same things. Things like gravity are properties of matter. Roger covered it as basically as possible. If you are truly interested, decide what kind of "single particle" you are talking about and read about how it interacts with other matter.

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                            Roger Wright wrote:

                            minus a smidgen

                            smidgen - (n) small pigeon...

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                            Chris Austin
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                            In Space?

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                              In Space?

                              Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                              In Spaaaaccceeeee.... ;-)

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                                In Spaaaaccceeeee.... ;-)

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                                _Damian S_
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                                This is the continuing story about a quack... who's gone to the dogs!! Pigs in Space - End of the Universe[^]

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                                  Roger Wright wrote:

                                  The initial momentum 7 femtoseconds after its creation plus the vector sum of all its subsequent interactions with other particles, minus a smidgen for the times when it was totally dark.

                                  So it is the interactions with the forces around it and the subsequent reactions that determine its position? What if it is a single particle or string in space? What determines its position then?

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                                  I'm no professional physicist, but my early training leads me to believe that the equivalence of matter and energy means that all of this is a matter of energetics - exchanges and transformations of energy states via interactions with other entities. If a particle could exist isolated in space, then it could have no motion or position, because both are meaningless without a frame of reference. If such a particle had existence, that implies to me that it must have an energy state, and in its vast loneliness would contrive to split itself, distributing its energy into other particles to play with. It's possible that this would explain the Big Bang. It's equally possible that I'm a figment of your imagination, or that I'm simply full of shit. ;P

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                                    Roger Wright wrote:

                                    minus a smidgen

                                    smidgen - (n) small pigeon...

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                                    That would explain the periods of darkness - a pigeon will eat anything, even small theoretical particles. If this theory holds water, it would imply that all the known universe is composed of pigeon excrement, which would explain the smell hereabouts on a hot day, but does little to extend the range of Man's knowledge of the universe.

                                    "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                      That would explain the periods of darkness - a pigeon will eat anything, even small theoretical particles. If this theory holds water, it would imply that all the known universe is composed of pigeon excrement, which would explain the smell hereabouts on a hot day, but does little to extend the range of Man's knowledge of the universe.

                                      "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                      Roger Wright wrote:

                                      Man's knowledge of the universe

                                      It's no better or worse than other theories I reckon!

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                                        I'm no professional physicist, but my early training leads me to believe that the equivalence of matter and energy means that all of this is a matter of energetics - exchanges and transformations of energy states via interactions with other entities. If a particle could exist isolated in space, then it could have no motion or position, because both are meaningless without a frame of reference. If such a particle had existence, that implies to me that it must have an energy state, and in its vast loneliness would contrive to split itself, distributing its energy into other particles to play with. It's possible that this would explain the Big Bang. It's equally possible that I'm a figment of your imagination, or that I'm simply full of shit. ;P

                                        "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                        Roger Wright wrote:

                                        If a particle could exist isolated in space, then it could have no motion or position, because both are meaningless without a frame of reference.

                                        A great way to look at it. Additionally, gravity extends to infinity. So, unless Hines here were somehow able to create a pocket universe with only a single particle it is not reasonable to discuss such thing.

                                        Sovereign ingredient for a happy marriage: Pay cash or do without. Interest charges not only eat up a household budget; awareness of debt eats up domestic felicity. --Lazarus Long Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                                          That would explain the periods of darkness - a pigeon will eat anything, even small theoretical particles. If this theory holds water, it would imply that all the known universe is composed of pigeon excrement, which would explain the smell hereabouts on a hot day, but does little to extend the range of Man's knowledge of the universe.

                                          "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                          Roger Wright wrote:

                                          If this theory holds water

                                          Nah - the water would evaporate - that's why there are no ducks Iinnnnn Spaaaaaacccccceeee

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