An important quality to have in a supreme court justice
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Rush is a big fan of Krauthammer ,as am I.
Then both of you should take his advice: "They should do nothing about rumors in liberal magazines about her intellectual capacity, nothing about her temperament, nothing ad hominem. . . .That's what Republicans ought to do and not attack her in a personal way, in any way."
Stan Shannon wrote:
But Limbaugh hold's an audience by passionantly articulating a very uplifting message about this country, its people and its history. The man can stand up and give a two hour discourse on his beliefs to a live audience straight from his heart, no notes, no teleprompter, nothing. Lets see Obama or anyone else do that
Oh please. That's a skill and a talent, it hardly is a mark of sainthood. Laurence Olivier used to pull off passionate three hour performances 8 times a week, without believing a word of what he was saying. That's what performers do. You sound like Oily talking about Obama.
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Oakman wrote:
They should do nothing about rumors in liberal magazines about her intellectual capacity, nothing about her temperament, nothing ad hominem. . . .That's what Republicans ought to do and not attack her in a personal way, in any way."
so who the hell is doing that?
Oakman wrote:
Oh please. That's a skill and a talent, it hardly is a mark of sainthood. Laurence Olivier used to pull off passionate three hour performances 8 times a week, without believing a word of what he was saying. That's what performers do.
Sorry, jon, the notion that Limbaugh is a fake is ridiculous. The man clearly believes in the things he says. Merely because the man has found a way to be paid for doing it is hardly a valid criticism.
Oakman wrote:
You sound like Oily talking about Obama.
Well, except that I wouldn't vote for Rush to be dog catcher. He is simply an articulate, passionate defender of conservative principles. In an age of such powerful leftist forces assaulting so many institutions in our society, it is hardly surprising that the modern phenomenon of talk radio would occur. Limbaugh is simply a guy that found a niche and exploited it by doing something he would be doing even if he were not being paid to.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Off the cuff...[^] The man clearly believes in what he says. Make all the jokes you like about drugs or divorces, you simply cannot take that away from him.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
The man clearly believes in what he says.
Well, I believe that you believe he does, but that doesn't really mean it's true. You're not the most objective judge, seeing as how completely you buy into what he's selling. And jokes aside, he doesn't really walk the walk he talks, but damned if he's not good at making excuses about it. :laugh:
Stan Shannon wrote:
Off the cuff...[^]
Big deal - that's his job. I've seen well-researched actors/radio personalities go on for hours at a time about various subjects they have absolutely no belief in if the money is right or if it creates the right amount of controversy. I don't consider this good evidence that he believes what he says, just that he's great at what he does - divisive rhetoric, being very knowledgeable about current events, and having an excellent knack for picking the issues that are most likely to resonate with his audience.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
The man clearly believes in what he says.
Well, I believe that you believe he does, but that doesn't really mean it's true. You're not the most objective judge, seeing as how completely you buy into what he's selling. And jokes aside, he doesn't really walk the walk he talks, but damned if he's not good at making excuses about it. :laugh:
Stan Shannon wrote:
Off the cuff...[^]
Big deal - that's his job. I've seen well-researched actors/radio personalities go on for hours at a time about various subjects they have absolutely no belief in if the money is right or if it creates the right amount of controversy. I don't consider this good evidence that he believes what he says, just that he's great at what he does - divisive rhetoric, being very knowledgeable about current events, and having an excellent knack for picking the issues that are most likely to resonate with his audience.
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Fisticuffs wrote:
divisive rhetoric
Such as?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Oakman wrote:
They should do nothing about rumors in liberal magazines about her intellectual capacity, nothing about her temperament, nothing ad hominem. . . .That's what Republicans ought to do and not attack her in a personal way, in any way."
so who the hell is doing that?
Oakman wrote:
Oh please. That's a skill and a talent, it hardly is a mark of sainthood. Laurence Olivier used to pull off passionate three hour performances 8 times a week, without believing a word of what he was saying. That's what performers do.
Sorry, jon, the notion that Limbaugh is a fake is ridiculous. The man clearly believes in the things he says. Merely because the man has found a way to be paid for doing it is hardly a valid criticism.
Oakman wrote:
You sound like Oily talking about Obama.
Well, except that I wouldn't vote for Rush to be dog catcher. He is simply an articulate, passionate defender of conservative principles. In an age of such powerful leftist forces assaulting so many institutions in our society, it is hardly surprising that the modern phenomenon of talk radio would occur. Limbaugh is simply a guy that found a niche and exploited it by doing something he would be doing even if he were not being paid to.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Sorry, jon, the notion that Limbaugh is a fake is ridiculous.
For some reason, folks don't like it when they are told their god has feet of clay - whether it's Yaweh, Allah, Marx, Obama or Limbaugh. You'd think they'd be grateful. . .
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Fisticuffs wrote:
divisive rhetoric
Such as?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Scrolling randomly, within 3 seconds [as a defense that "I want Obama to fail"] Did the Democrats want the war on Iraq to fail! CROWD: Yes! RUSH: They certainly did. They not only wanted the war in Iraq to fail, they proclaimed it a failure. US VS THEM! US VS THEM! US VS THEM! GOOOOOOOOO (true) REPUBLICANS! Now why don't you go ahead and complain that I took it out of context or there's some really subtle nuance in there or blah blah blah. Rush is a clown who spends his life watering down complex issues into LIBERAL and CONSERVATIVE, and you're more than happy to order the Rush Limbaugh Inflatable Clown Nose(TM) to honk along when he says something that lets you keep believing that yes! there are good guys and bad guys and you're ONE OF THE GOOD GUYS. So go ahead - honk honk honk!
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Scrolling randomly, within 3 seconds [as a defense that "I want Obama to fail"] Did the Democrats want the war on Iraq to fail! CROWD: Yes! RUSH: They certainly did. They not only wanted the war in Iraq to fail, they proclaimed it a failure. US VS THEM! US VS THEM! US VS THEM! GOOOOOOOOO (true) REPUBLICANS! Now why don't you go ahead and complain that I took it out of context or there's some really subtle nuance in there or blah blah blah. Rush is a clown who spends his life watering down complex issues into LIBERAL and CONSERVATIVE, and you're more than happy to order the Rush Limbaugh Inflatable Clown Nose(TM) to honk along when he says something that lets you keep believing that yes! there are good guys and bad guys and you're ONE OF THE GOOD GUYS. So go ahead - honk honk honk!
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So democrats proclaiming the war in Iraq a failure, screaming it at the top of their lungs, calling the president of the United States a liar on the senate floor, doing everything possible to undermine a military commitment they signed off on - none of that is divisive at all. But some clown on the radio truthfully commenting on their vitriole, now thats just going to damn far? Thats all you've got? That's Limbaugh's big crime? Actually, that is proof of precisely why Limbaugh is, in fact, so important. He is one of the few people with a national stage willing to stand up to the other side.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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So democrats proclaiming the war in Iraq a failure, screaming it at the top of their lungs, calling the president of the United States a liar on the senate floor, doing everything possible to undermine a military commitment they signed off on - none of that is divisive at all. But some clown on the radio truthfully commenting on their vitriole, now thats just going to damn far? Thats all you've got? That's Limbaugh's big crime? Actually, that is proof of precisely why Limbaugh is, in fact, so important. He is one of the few people with a national stage willing to stand up to the other side.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Fisticuffs wrote:
Tu quoque?
Hardly. Limbaugh is one of a small handful of people standing up to a monolithic political machine which has an iron fisted grip on virtually every other institution in our society. The two sides are not comparable at all. You are simply one of those who cannot stand the thought that there remains those of us out here with the audacity to continue to oppose the blissful seduction of collectivism. You're religion sucks, pal, and Limbaugh makes a hell of a lot of money pointing that out.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Fisticuffs wrote:
Tu quoque?
Hardly. Limbaugh is one of a small handful of people standing up to a monolithic political machine which has an iron fisted grip on virtually every other institution in our society. The two sides are not comparable at all. You are simply one of those who cannot stand the thought that there remains those of us out here with the audacity to continue to oppose the blissful seduction of collectivism. You're religion sucks, pal, and Limbaugh makes a hell of a lot of money pointing that out.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Limbaugh is one of a small handful of people standing up to a monolithic political machine which has an iron fisted grip on virtually every other institution in our society
Do you get a tingle running up your leg whenever you listen to him?
Stan Shannon wrote:
Limbaugh makes a hell of a lot of money pointing that out.
And Obama became the most powerful man in the world arguing against just about everything that Limbaugh espouses. And he get laid more, too, I'll bet - without the use of Viagra.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Limbaugh is one of a small handful of people standing up to a monolithic political machine which has an iron fisted grip on virtually every other institution in our society
Do you get a tingle running up your leg whenever you listen to him?
Stan Shannon wrote:
Limbaugh makes a hell of a lot of money pointing that out.
And Obama became the most powerful man in the world arguing against just about everything that Limbaugh espouses. And he get laid more, too, I'll bet - without the use of Viagra.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
Do you get a tingle running up your leg whenever you listen to him?
Nope, merely a since of hope that all is not yet lost.
Oakman wrote:
And Obama became the most powerful man in the world arguing against just about everything that Limbaugh espouses. And he get laid more, too, I'll bet - without the use of Viagra.
True enough. And that is precisely why Limbaugh sould be there espousing it. BTW, how do you know he uses viagra?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Oakman wrote:
Do you get a tingle running up your leg whenever you listen to him?
Nope, merely a since of hope that all is not yet lost.
Oakman wrote:
And Obama became the most powerful man in the world arguing against just about everything that Limbaugh espouses. And he get laid more, too, I'll bet - without the use of Viagra.
True enough. And that is precisely why Limbaugh sould be there espousing it. BTW, how do you know he uses viagra?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
BTW, how do you know he uses viagra?
Customs found it in his suitcase.[^] As is usual for old law-n-Order Rush, he didn't have a prescription.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Oakman wrote:
Do you get a tingle running up your leg whenever you listen to him?
Nope, merely a since of hope that all is not yet lost.
Oakman wrote:
And Obama became the most powerful man in the world arguing against just about everything that Limbaugh espouses. And he get laid more, too, I'll bet - without the use of Viagra.
True enough. And that is precisely why Limbaugh sould be there espousing it. BTW, how do you know he uses viagra?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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To sum up: You ask for an example of divisive rhetoric, I provide it, you utterly lose your shit. Honk honk honk honk honk!
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Well, sorry, but I don't consider that to be divisive. I consider it to be a rational, measured and eloquent response to divisiveness. The fact that you characterize it as divisive, is an example of more of the original divisiveness that motivated it.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
BTW, how do you know he uses viagra?
Customs found it in his suitcase.[^] As is usual for old law-n-Order Rush, he didn't have a prescription.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Yeah, I well remember that. I just wanted you to post the article. Can you post one where CBS does an expose on government harrassment of prominant conservative citizens?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Well, sorry, but I don't consider that to be divisive. I consider it to be a rational, measured and eloquent response to divisiveness. The fact that you characterize it as divisive, is an example of more of the original divisiveness that motivated it.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Stan Shannon wrote:
I consider it to be a rational, measured and eloquent response to divisiveness.
Well, what a goddamned surprise that is. Maybe next time you can ask for "divisive rhetoric that I don't agree with or that wasn't deserved and that isn't REALLY divisive because THEY DID IT FIRST! See? Nothing!" Honk honk honk!
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Stan Shannon wrote:
I consider it to be a rational, measured and eloquent response to divisiveness.
Well, what a goddamned surprise that is. Maybe next time you can ask for "divisive rhetoric that I don't agree with or that wasn't deserved and that isn't REALLY divisive because THEY DID IT FIRST! See? Nothing!" Honk honk honk!
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Fisticuffs wrote:
Maybe next time you can ask for "divisive rhetoric that I don't agree with or that wasn't deserved or that isn't REALLY divisive because THEY DID IT FIRST!
He's got you nailed, Stan.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Stan Shannon wrote:
I consider it to be a rational, measured and eloquent response to divisiveness.
Well, what a goddamned surprise that is. Maybe next time you can ask for "divisive rhetoric that I don't agree with or that wasn't deserved and that isn't REALLY divisive because THEY DID IT FIRST! See? Nothing!" Honk honk honk!
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Fisticuffs wrote:
Well, what a goddamned surprise that is. Maybe next time you can ask for "divisive rhetoric that I don't agree with or that wasn't deserved and that isn't REALLY divisive because THEY DID IT FIRST! See? Nothing!"
Well, sorry again, but if pointing out divisiveness is divisive, than Limbaugh is no more guilty of it than you are. The democrat party has cornered the market on divisiveness. That is their stock and trade. Every single word out of their mouths is divisive. I mean, hell, anything and everything they disagree with is immediately labeled 'right wing'. Entirely mainstream beliefs - marriage between a male and a female, legal considerations for human fetuses, christian traditions being publically promoted, all become twisted into 'right wing' fanaticism. How can we possibly have a civil debate that isn't divisive given a situation where any objection at all to anything promoted by the left is called 'divisive', but where any objection on their part to conservatism must go unchallanged as if it were some kind of goddamned holy writ?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Yeah, I well remember that. I just wanted you to post the article. Can you post one where CBS does an expose on government harrassment of prominant conservative citizens?
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
Once again you try to change the subject because you find yourself in a corner. Do you ever argue something on the merits? I probably could have chosen an article from the Wall St. Journal or the Evening Standard. I simply grabbed the first one Google suggested. CBS isn't the issue at hand, Rush violating the terms of his probation after being convicted of drug abuse is.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
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Once again you try to change the subject because you find yourself in a corner. Do you ever argue something on the merits? I probably could have chosen an article from the Wall St. Journal or the Evening Standard. I simply grabbed the first one Google suggested. CBS isn't the issue at hand, Rush violating the terms of his probation after being convicted of drug abuse is.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Oakman wrote:
Once again you try to change the subject because you find yourself in a corner. Do you ever argue something on the merits?
Well, excuse me, sir, but you were responding to a question I asked. The subject is what ever I say it was. I claim the only reason you even know about Limbaugh's illegal, deadly and dangerous drug abuse, is probably because of his status and situation. I think he has many powerful and influencial enemies who would like nothing more than to destroy him. Yet, with all of that arrayed against him, all they have is some viagra and pain pills? Doctor shopping? If that is the worst thing the guy has done, I'm perfectly comfortable with it.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.
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Fisticuffs wrote:
Maybe next time you can ask for "divisive rhetoric that I don't agree with or that wasn't deserved or that isn't REALLY divisive because THEY DID IT FIRST!
He's got you nailed, Stan.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface Both democrats and republicans are playing for the same team and it's not us. - Chris Austin
Sorry, Jon, but I'm the only one around here with a real hammer.
Chaining ourselves to the moral high ground does not make us good guys. Aside from making us easy targets, it merely makes us idiotic prisoners of our own self loathing.