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This blog post from MS http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/06/12/information-regarding-windows-7-in-europe.aspx[^]
Given the pending legal proceeding, we’ve decided that instead of including Internet Explorer in Windows 7
in Europe, we will offer it separately and on an easy-to-install
basis to both computer manufacturers and users.
This means that computer manufacturers and users
will be free to install Internet Explorer on Windows 7,
or not, as they prefer. Of course, they will also be free,
as they are today, to install other Web browsers.(...)The E versions of Windows 7 will include all the features and functionality of Windows 7
in the rest of the world, other than browsing with Internet Explorer.
Computer manufacturers will be able to add any browser they want to their Windows 7 machines,
including Internet Explorer, so European consumers who purchase new PCs
will be able to access the Internet without any problem.But, will code that uses a web browser control, work without IE ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
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But, will code that uses a web browser control, work without IE ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
I don't doubt it. MS may have removed the IE UI but I don't imagine for one moment that they have removed its inner workings from the install.
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But, will code that uses a web browser control, work without IE ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp
I don't doubt it. MS may have removed the IE UI but I don't imagine for one moment that they have removed its inner workings from the OS.
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I foresee 2 possibilities... 1) Sharp Rise in PC Magazine sales just for the cover discs. 2) Sharp Rise in the theft of said cover discs.
Basically, it's back to the 90s again. :) I guess, however, that the vast majority of consumers will get Windows 7 only with a new PC and the OEM will supply them with IE on a disc or pre-install it. The small minority who buy Windows upgrades may do your possibilities 1 and 2. :)
Kevin
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I don't doubt it. MS may have removed the IE UI but I don't imagine for one moment that they have removed its inner workings from the install.
You can say that again! :)
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I foresee 2 possibilities... 1) Sharp Rise in PC Magazine sales just for the cover discs. 2) Sharp Rise in the theft of said cover discs.
AOL Anyone? There is all there free discs I could send!
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
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I don't doubt it. MS may have removed the IE UI but I don't imagine for one moment that they have removed its inner workings from the OS.
There are bound to be scenarios that haven't been foreseen though. MS do tend to make things overly interdependent. My guess is that the vast majority of OEMs will just install IE anyway and then offer other browsers at customers' request. Personally, I'd rather have IE pre-installed anyway, even though it's not my default. MS is not known for its quick installs. So let the OEM do it. :)
Kevin
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You can say that again! :)
Let's hope he doesn't! :)
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
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How am I going to download Opera? :rolleyes:
Don't attribute to stupidity what can be equally well explained by buerocracy.
My latest article | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighistThey'll probably make it an optional download as part of Windows Update (which doesn't use IE in Vista and 7).
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You can say that again! :)
Just for Dave: I don't doubt it. MS may have removed the IE UI but I don't imagine for one moment that they have removed its inner workings from the install.
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Let's hope he doesn't! :)
------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC
I wouldn't dream of being so literal! :laugh: Honest.
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How am I going to download Opera? :rolleyes:
Don't attribute to stupidity what can be equally well explained by buerocracy.
My latest article | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighistYou'll probably have a pretty icon on your start menu. When you click it, IE8 will be downloaded for you. From there you can download whatever you wish. :) But in two years time, the EU will fine Microsoft for having icons shipped with the operating system...
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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Just for Dave: I don't doubt it. MS may have removed the IE UI but I don't imagine for one moment that they have removed its inner workings from the install.
I sincerely hope so. Having IE is available as a control is just excellent, if you want to integrate some webpage/service into your desktop app.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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You'll probably have a pretty icon on your start menu. When you click it, IE8 will be downloaded for you. From there you can download whatever you wish. :) But in two years time, the EU will fine Microsoft for having icons shipped with the operating system...
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
Or force them to put Opera, Safari and Firefox icons next to the IE8 icon.
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
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You'll probably have a pretty icon on your start menu. When you click it, IE8 will be downloaded for you. From there you can download whatever you wish. :) But in two years time, the EU will fine Microsoft for having icons shipped with the operating system...
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
The totally stupid thing is that all Microsoft can be blamed for in this regard is that they were the first to recognize a desktop OS needs a browser.
Don't attribute to stupidity what can be equally well explained by buerocracy.
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Or force them to put Opera, Safari and Firefox icons next to the IE8 icon.
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
That's just not feasible, and it's silly. How come Apple isn't shot to hell for shipping Safari with their OS? People who care about their browser will download whatever they wish to use. People who don't will be happy they can surf right away.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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Don't you keep Firefox portable on a USB stick like everyone else?
I always lose the stick.
Don't attribute to stupidity what can be equally well explained by buerocracy.
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That's just not feasible, and it's silly. How come Apple isn't shot to hell for shipping Safari with their OS? People who care about their browser will download whatever they wish to use. People who don't will be happy they can surf right away.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
How come Apple isn't shot to hell for shipping Safari with their OS?
Because they aren't a monopoly. If they become a monopoloy then they'll have to abide by the monopoly laws. If they abuse the laws then they'll get slapped/fined/ordered around.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
People who care about their browser will download whatever they wish to use. People who don't will be happy they can surf right away.
Pretty much. I don't agree with the EU or Microsoft, both are making it harder for customers, not better or even easier.
cheers, Paul M. Watson.
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I always lose the stick.
Don't attribute to stupidity what can be equally well explained by buerocracy.
My latest article | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighistI've recently received a number of emails detailing possible solutions for lost "sticks", maybe I could forward them along to you, or better yet, give them your email addr? :)
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Hmm, I'm afraid that might not work if IE is not present on the system. It depends whether they will remove all parts (dll's) of IE, or just the UI front end for the "European" release of Win7
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Mark C Hagers wrote:
all parts (dll's) of IE
Windows Kernel?
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