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  • C Christian Graus

    But, will code that uses a web browser control, work without IE ?

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. "! i don't exactly like or do programming and it only gives me a headache." - spotted in VB forums. I can do things with my brain that I can't even google. I can flex the front part of my brain instantly anytime I want. It can be exhausting and it even causes me vision problems for some reason. - CaptainSeeSharp

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    hairy_hats
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    I don't doubt it. MS may have removed the IE UI but I don't imagine for one moment that they have removed its inner workings from the OS.

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    • S Stuart Jeffery

      I foresee 2 possibilities... 1) Sharp Rise in PC Magazine sales just for the cover discs. 2) Sharp Rise in the theft of said cover discs.

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      Kevin McFarlane
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      Basically, it's back to the 90s again. :) I guess, however, that the vast majority of consumers will get Windows 7 only with a new PC and the OEM will supply them with IE on a disc or pre-install it. The small minority who buy Windows upgrades may do your possibilities 1 and 2. :)

      Kevin

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      • H hairy_hats

        I don't doubt it. MS may have removed the IE UI but I don't imagine for one moment that they have removed its inner workings from the install.

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        You can say that again! :)

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          I foresee 2 possibilities... 1) Sharp Rise in PC Magazine sales just for the cover discs. 2) Sharp Rise in the theft of said cover discs.

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          Dalek Dave
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          AOL Anyone? There is all there free discs I could send!

          ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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          • H hairy_hats

            I don't doubt it. MS may have removed the IE UI but I don't imagine for one moment that they have removed its inner workings from the OS.

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            Kevin McFarlane
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            There are bound to be scenarios that haven't been foreseen though. MS do tend to make things overly interdependent. My guess is that the vast majority of OEMs will just install IE anyway and then offer other browsers at customers' request. Personally, I'd rather have IE pre-installed anyway, even though it's not my default. MS is not known for its quick installs. So let the OEM do it. :)

            Kevin

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            • P pompeyboy2

              You can say that again! :)

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              Dalek Dave
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              Let's hope he doesn't! :)

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              • P peterchen

                How am I going to download Opera? :rolleyes:

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                Electron Shepherd
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                They'll probably make it an optional download as part of Windows Update (which doesn't use IE in Vista and 7).

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                • P pompeyboy2

                  You can say that again! :)

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                  Just for Dave: I don't doubt it. MS may have removed the IE UI but I don't imagine for one moment that they have removed its inner workings from the install.

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    Let's hope he doesn't! :)

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                    hairy_hats
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                    I wouldn't dream of being so literal! :laugh: Honest.

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                    • P peterchen

                      How am I going to download Opera? :rolleyes:

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                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                      You'll probably have a pretty icon on your start menu. When you click it, IE8 will be downloaded for you. From there you can download whatever you wish. :) But in two years time, the EU will fine Microsoft for having icons shipped with the operating system...

                      -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                      • H hairy_hats

                        Just for Dave: I don't doubt it. MS may have removed the IE UI but I don't imagine for one moment that they have removed its inner workings from the install.

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                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                        I sincerely hope so. Having IE is available as a control is just excellent, if you want to integrate some webpage/service into your desktop app.

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                        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                          You'll probably have a pretty icon on your start menu. When you click it, IE8 will be downloaded for you. From there you can download whatever you wish. :) But in two years time, the EU will fine Microsoft for having icons shipped with the operating system...

                          -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                          Paul Watson
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                          Or force them to put Opera, Safari and Firefox icons next to the IE8 icon.

                          cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                          • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                            You'll probably have a pretty icon on your start menu. When you click it, IE8 will be downloaded for you. From there you can download whatever you wish. :) But in two years time, the EU will fine Microsoft for having icons shipped with the operating system...

                            -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                            peterchen
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                            The totally stupid thing is that all Microsoft can be blamed for in this regard is that they were the first to recognize a desktop OS needs a browser.

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                              Or force them to put Opera, Safari and Firefox icons next to the IE8 icon.

                              cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                              That's just not feasible, and it's silly. How come Apple isn't shot to hell for shipping Safari with their OS? People who care about their browser will download whatever they wish to use. People who don't will be happy they can surf right away.

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                              • H hairy_hats

                                Don't you keep Firefox portable on a USB stick like everyone else?

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                                peterchen
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                                I always lose the stick.

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                                  That's just not feasible, and it's silly. How come Apple isn't shot to hell for shipping Safari with their OS? People who care about their browser will download whatever they wish to use. People who don't will be happy they can surf right away.

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                                  Paul Watson
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                                  Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                  How come Apple isn't shot to hell for shipping Safari with their OS?

                                  Because they aren't a monopoly. If they become a monopoloy then they'll have to abide by the monopoly laws. If they abuse the laws then they'll get slapped/fined/ordered around.

                                  Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                  People who care about their browser will download whatever they wish to use. People who don't will be happy they can surf right away.

                                  Pretty much. I don't agree with the EU or Microsoft, both are making it harder for customers, not better or even easier.

                                  cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                    I always lose the stick.

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                                    Jim Crafton
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                                    I've recently received a number of emails detailing possible solutions for lost "sticks", maybe I could forward them along to you, or better yet, give them your email addr? :)

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                                    • M Mark C Hagers

                                      Hmm, I'm afraid that might not work if IE is not present on the system. It depends whether they will remove all parts (dll's) of IE, or just the UI front end for the "European" release of Win7

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                                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                                      Mark C Hagers wrote:

                                      all parts (dll's) of IE

                                      Windows Kernel?

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                                      • J Jim Crafton

                                        I've recently received a number of emails detailing possible solutions for lost "sticks", maybe I could forward them along to you, or better yet, give them your email addr? :)

                                        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Oh

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                                        PIEBALDconsult
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                                        Won't it fit on a floppy? :confused:

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                                        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                          You'll probably have a pretty icon on your start menu. When you click it, IE8 will be downloaded for you. From there you can download whatever you wish. :) But in two years time, the EU will fine Microsoft for having icons shipped with the operating system...

                                          -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          Why download? ren iexplore.ex~ iexplore.exe :-D

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