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  • D Dalek Dave

    Well of course if ITV made better programs that people actually wanted to watch then there would be no problem! And why should the BBC be made to pay. It is like forcing Coke to give money to Pepsi, because Pepsi isn't so popular. If ITV goes under then so be it, there are other companies that would like the chance to run a national TV Service. The BBC over the years has given us Dr Who, Spooks, Life on Mars, All the Classic Serials, All the Attenborough things, it has a world class reputation for making programs that, quite frankly, no-one in the world could make, and simply because of the way it is funded. Could you see ITV or Sky making something like Life on Earth or The Ascent of Man? I don't think so. It also has a world class news-gathering system, and is highly regarded. Screw ITV, if they want to make rubbish TV for idiots, let them. Apart from Corrie, what do they got? Nothing.

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    Also, to be fair, there is that Ladette to Lady program which is good for an eyeful of young tear away Australian lasses. BUT, it has commercials in it, so should fund itself. 3.5% is hardly a massive amount to hand over, but I think it sets a dangerous precedent and could pave the way for the demise of the BBC. And that truly would be tragic.

    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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      I wish they'd just scrap the thing. Hopefully at least with sharing it out there'll be more reason to do so in future. Personally I can't stand any of the BBC or ITV channels. There's only really Virgin 1 I watch at the moment (though I'd also get paramount, sci-fi and kerrang if it wasn't for the 12-month minimum term with sky, etc).

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      Are you serious? Virgin?? Back-to-back American dross with zero factual content?

      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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        And don't get me started on the monthly 50p tax on phone lines. It's estimated to make £120M a year, and the cost of high-speed broadband to everyone estimated at £5bn, so what's the point except to piss off phone users?

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        There's little point to any new Government policy these days. Perhaps Alistair Darling did the sums.

        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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        • D Dalek Dave

          Well of course if ITV made better programs that people actually wanted to watch then there would be no problem! And why should the BBC be made to pay. It is like forcing Coke to give money to Pepsi, because Pepsi isn't so popular. If ITV goes under then so be it, there are other companies that would like the chance to run a national TV Service. The BBC over the years has given us Dr Who, Spooks, Life on Mars, All the Classic Serials, All the Attenborough things, it has a world class reputation for making programs that, quite frankly, no-one in the world could make, and simply because of the way it is funded. Could you see ITV or Sky making something like Life on Earth or The Ascent of Man? I don't think so. It also has a world class news-gathering system, and is highly regarded. Screw ITV, if they want to make rubbish TV for idiots, let them. Apart from Corrie, what do they got? Nothing.

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          Dalek Dave wrote:

          It is like forcing Coke to give money to Pepsi, because Pepsi isn't so popular.

          There's no law that states everyone in the country must legally buy coke or not drink anything at all, even water, though, that's the difference.

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            Are you serious? Virgin?? Back-to-back American dross with zero factual content?

            Regards, Rob Philpott.

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            Dalek Dave
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            FX does at least show Dexter!

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              Dalek Dave wrote:

              It is like forcing Coke to give money to Pepsi, because Pepsi isn't so popular.

              There's no law that states everyone in the country must legally buy coke or not drink anything at all, even water, though, that's the difference.

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              Dalek Dave
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              There is no law that says you have to watch TV. Yet, and here is the rub, should you decide not to watch TV you do not pay for the BBC, for there would be no license fee, yet you would still be paying for ITV as the cost of the advertising is built into the prices you pay for products you buy. So, which is fairer?

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                Dalek Dave wrote:

                Apart from Corrie, what do they got?

                Primeval

                Between the idea And the reality Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow

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                Computafreak wrote:

                Dalek Dave wrote: Apart from Corrie, what do they got?

                No comment - though I'm sure that's negative man points for DD!

                Computafreak wrote:

                Primeval

                Didn't that just get canned??

                It definitely isn't definatley

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                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  Apart from Corrie, what do they got?

                  Primeval

                  Between the idea And the reality Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow

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                  Computafreak wrote:

                  Dalek Dave wrote: Apart from Corrie, what do they got? Primeval

                  Um. Sorry to break it to you... Primeval Cancelled[^]

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                    Also, to be fair, there is that Ladette to Lady program which is good for an eyeful of young tear away Australian lasses. BUT, it has commercials in it, so should fund itself. 3.5% is hardly a massive amount to hand over, but I think it sets a dangerous precedent and could pave the way for the demise of the BBC. And that truly would be tragic.

                    Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                    Rob Philpott wrote:

                    it has commercials in it, so should fund itself

                    And that's their problem. I watched X-men 2 with my kids the other week - Saturday night, first terrestrial showing (I think), and every single ad break was filled with ads for ITV channels themselves. They clearly hadn't sold one commercial slot. Which looks a lot like like a dead business to me. Jeez - they don't even have Melvyn to pretend they do any kind of real programming any more. Remember World in Action - stuff like that? It's easy to forget it used to be worth turning over once in a while!

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                      Computafreak wrote:

                      Dalek Dave wrote: Apart from Corrie, what do they got? Primeval

                      Um. Sorry to break it to you... Primeval Cancelled[^]

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                      But on a good note : Coming Soon[^] Is it just me or is Eve Miles a hottie?

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                        Rob Philpott wrote:

                        it has commercials in it, so should fund itself

                        And that's their problem. I watched X-men 2 with my kids the other week - Saturday night, first terrestrial showing (I think), and every single ad break was filled with ads for ITV channels themselves. They clearly hadn't sold one commercial slot. Which looks a lot like like a dead business to me. Jeez - they don't even have Melvyn to pretend they do any kind of real programming any more. Remember World in Action - stuff like that? It's easy to forget it used to be worth turning over once in a while!

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                        Monday nights were ITV nights, World in Action followed by The Sweeney!

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          But on a good note : Coming Soon[^] Is it just me or is Eve Miles a hottie?

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                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          is Eve Miles a hottie?

                          Yes, and something strangely alluring about the Welsh accent too.

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            Computafreak wrote:

                            Dalek Dave wrote: Apart from Corrie, what do they got? Primeval

                            Um. Sorry to break it to you... Primeval Cancelled[^]

                            No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a significant number of electrons were slightly inconvenienced. This message is made of fully recyclable Zeros and Ones

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                            0x3c0
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                            Then ITV is pointless. That was the only good programme being broadcasted

                            Between the idea And the reality Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              But on a good note : Coming Soon[^] Is it just me or is Eve Miles a hottie?

                              ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                              hairy_hats
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                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              Is it just me or is Eve Miles a hottie?

                              Yes. (By which I mean, yes, she is, not yes, it's just you. Thought I should clarify.)

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                              • D Dalek Dave

                                Monday nights were ITV nights, World in Action followed by The Sweeney!

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                                I liked the Cook Report too, which if I remember correctly was on ITV. They once did serious journalism.

                                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                • D Dalek Dave

                                  Primeval == Blatant Torchwood Rip-Off!

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                                  0x3c0
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                                  Ah well. I liked it. Apparently it's been cancelled, so there's no competition on that front anymore

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                                    Primeval == Blatant Torchwood Rip-Off!

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                                    hairy_hats
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                                    Possibly but as Torchwood is off the air at present it was one of only a handful of programmes a week worth watching on any channel. Thank FSM for Radio 4 and BBC7.

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                                      There's little point to any new Government policy these days. Perhaps Alistair Darling did the sums.

                                      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                      hairy_hats
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                                      Rob Philpott wrote:

                                      Perhaps Alistair Darling did the sums.

                                      There's a first time for everything.

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                                      • D Dalek Dave

                                        But on a good note : Coming Soon[^] Is it just me or is Eve Miles a hottie?

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                                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                                        But on a good note : Coming Soon[^]

                                        Been "coming soon" for a few months now.:mad:

                                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                                        Is it just me or is Eve Miles a hottie?

                                        No, not just you (although I prefered Iantos' girlfriend the cyberwoman) - she was born and bred about a mile away!

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                                        • D Dalek Dave

                                          Well of course if ITV made better programs that people actually wanted to watch then there would be no problem! And why should the BBC be made to pay. It is like forcing Coke to give money to Pepsi, because Pepsi isn't so popular. If ITV goes under then so be it, there are other companies that would like the chance to run a national TV Service. The BBC over the years has given us Dr Who, Spooks, Life on Mars, All the Classic Serials, All the Attenborough things, it has a world class reputation for making programs that, quite frankly, no-one in the world could make, and simply because of the way it is funded. Could you see ITV or Sky making something like Life on Earth or The Ascent of Man? I don't think so. It also has a world class news-gathering system, and is highly regarded. Screw ITV, if they want to make rubbish TV for idiots, let them. Apart from Corrie, what do they got? Nothing.

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                                          They have football sometimes. With the worst commentary duo on the planet. Granted the BBC does push them close in this respect with Motson/Lawrenson, but Tyldesley and Pleat are still comfortably the worst.

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