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  • D Dave Parker

    Dalek Dave wrote:

    It is like forcing Coke to give money to Pepsi, because Pepsi isn't so popular.

    There's no law that states everyone in the country must legally buy coke or not drink anything at all, even water, though, that's the difference.

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    Dalek Dave
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    There is no law that says you have to watch TV. Yet, and here is the rub, should you decide not to watch TV you do not pay for the BBC, for there would be no license fee, yet you would still be paying for ITV as the cost of the advertising is built into the prices you pay for products you buy. So, which is fairer?

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      Dalek Dave wrote:

      Apart from Corrie, what do they got?

      Primeval

      Between the idea And the reality Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow

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      moon_stick
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      Computafreak wrote:

      Dalek Dave wrote: Apart from Corrie, what do they got?

      No comment - though I'm sure that's negative man points for DD!

      Computafreak wrote:

      Primeval

      Didn't that just get canned??

      It definitely isn't definatley

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        Dalek Dave wrote:

        Apart from Corrie, what do they got?

        Primeval

        Between the idea And the reality Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow

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        OriginalGriff
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        Computafreak wrote:

        Dalek Dave wrote: Apart from Corrie, what do they got? Primeval

        Um. Sorry to break it to you... Primeval Cancelled[^]

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        • R Rob Philpott

          Also, to be fair, there is that Ladette to Lady program which is good for an eyeful of young tear away Australian lasses. BUT, it has commercials in it, so should fund itself. 3.5% is hardly a massive amount to hand over, but I think it sets a dangerous precedent and could pave the way for the demise of the BBC. And that truly would be tragic.

          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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          Lost User
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          Rob Philpott wrote:

          it has commercials in it, so should fund itself

          And that's their problem. I watched X-men 2 with my kids the other week - Saturday night, first terrestrial showing (I think), and every single ad break was filled with ads for ITV channels themselves. They clearly hadn't sold one commercial slot. Which looks a lot like like a dead business to me. Jeez - they don't even have Melvyn to pretend they do any kind of real programming any more. Remember World in Action - stuff like that? It's easy to forget it used to be worth turning over once in a while!

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            Computafreak wrote:

            Dalek Dave wrote: Apart from Corrie, what do they got? Primeval

            Um. Sorry to break it to you... Primeval Cancelled[^]

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            Dalek Dave
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            But on a good note : Coming Soon[^] Is it just me or is Eve Miles a hottie?

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              Rob Philpott wrote:

              it has commercials in it, so should fund itself

              And that's their problem. I watched X-men 2 with my kids the other week - Saturday night, first terrestrial showing (I think), and every single ad break was filled with ads for ITV channels themselves. They clearly hadn't sold one commercial slot. Which looks a lot like like a dead business to me. Jeez - they don't even have Melvyn to pretend they do any kind of real programming any more. Remember World in Action - stuff like that? It's easy to forget it used to be worth turning over once in a while!

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              Dalek Dave
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              Monday nights were ITV nights, World in Action followed by The Sweeney!

              ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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              • D Dalek Dave

                But on a good note : Coming Soon[^] Is it just me or is Eve Miles a hottie?

                ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                phannon86
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                Dalek Dave wrote:

                is Eve Miles a hottie?

                Yes, and something strangely alluring about the Welsh accent too.

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Computafreak wrote:

                  Dalek Dave wrote: Apart from Corrie, what do they got? Primeval

                  Um. Sorry to break it to you... Primeval Cancelled[^]

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                  0x3c0
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                  Then ITV is pointless. That was the only good programme being broadcasted

                  Between the idea And the reality Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    But on a good note : Coming Soon[^] Is it just me or is Eve Miles a hottie?

                    ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                    hairy_hats
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                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                    Is it just me or is Eve Miles a hottie?

                    Yes. (By which I mean, yes, she is, not yes, it's just you. Thought I should clarify.)

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      Monday nights were ITV nights, World in Action followed by The Sweeney!

                      ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                      Rob Philpott
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                      I liked the Cook Report too, which if I remember correctly was on ITV. They once did serious journalism.

                      Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        Primeval == Blatant Torchwood Rip-Off!

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                        0x3c0
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                        Ah well. I liked it. Apparently it's been cancelled, so there's no competition on that front anymore

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          Primeval == Blatant Torchwood Rip-Off!

                          ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                          hairy_hats
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                          Possibly but as Torchwood is off the air at present it was one of only a handful of programmes a week worth watching on any channel. Thank FSM for Radio 4 and BBC7.

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                          • R Rob Philpott

                            There's little point to any new Government policy these days. Perhaps Alistair Darling did the sums.

                            Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                            hairy_hats
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                            Rob Philpott wrote:

                            Perhaps Alistair Darling did the sums.

                            There's a first time for everything.

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                            • D Dalek Dave

                              But on a good note : Coming Soon[^] Is it just me or is Eve Miles a hottie?

                              ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                              OriginalGriff
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                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              But on a good note : Coming Soon[^]

                              Been "coming soon" for a few months now.:mad:

                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              Is it just me or is Eve Miles a hottie?

                              No, not just you (although I prefered Iantos' girlfriend the cyberwoman) - she was born and bred about a mile away!

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                              • D Dalek Dave

                                Well of course if ITV made better programs that people actually wanted to watch then there would be no problem! And why should the BBC be made to pay. It is like forcing Coke to give money to Pepsi, because Pepsi isn't so popular. If ITV goes under then so be it, there are other companies that would like the chance to run a national TV Service. The BBC over the years has given us Dr Who, Spooks, Life on Mars, All the Classic Serials, All the Attenborough things, it has a world class reputation for making programs that, quite frankly, no-one in the world could make, and simply because of the way it is funded. Could you see ITV or Sky making something like Life on Earth or The Ascent of Man? I don't think so. It also has a world class news-gathering system, and is highly regarded. Screw ITV, if they want to make rubbish TV for idiots, let them. Apart from Corrie, what do they got? Nothing.

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                                Dan_Martin
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                                They have football sometimes. With the worst commentary duo on the planet. Granted the BBC does push them close in this respect with Motson/Lawrenson, but Tyldesley and Pleat are still comfortably the worst.

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                                • R Rob Philpott

                                  Morning, Just what the Hell is wrong with this government? Great idea, let's give the last remaining world-class institution (the BBC) in this land a good shoeing. I despair. Deep breaths - sorry, perhaps I should head over to the soapbox.

                                  Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                  Henry Minute
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                                  This is a monumentally stupid idea, thought up by monumentally stupid people. I don't want to get into SoapBox territory but what this really is is an attempt to get the British Bucket Company to toe the line. An extremely transparent attempt to whittle away their independence. It wasn't meant to be transparent, of course, which just emphasises the stupidity of the proposers. My £0.02p

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                                  • H hairy_hats

                                    Rob Philpott wrote:

                                    Perhaps Alistair Darling did the sums.

                                    There's a first time for everything.

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                                    Michael Bookatz
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                                    It's a great school system we have.

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                                    • H hairy_hats

                                      And don't get me started on the monthly 50p tax on phone lines. It's estimated to make £120M a year, and the cost of high-speed broadband to everyone estimated at £5bn, so what's the point except to piss off phone users?

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                                      NormDroid
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                                      What makes me laugh, considering all the fucking taxes bestowed up on us, immigrants flock to this country, it begs the question have the fuck can they afford to live in tax hell UK.

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                                      • D Dalek Dave

                                        Well of course if ITV made better programs that people actually wanted to watch then there would be no problem! And why should the BBC be made to pay. It is like forcing Coke to give money to Pepsi, because Pepsi isn't so popular. If ITV goes under then so be it, there are other companies that would like the chance to run a national TV Service. The BBC over the years has given us Dr Who, Spooks, Life on Mars, All the Classic Serials, All the Attenborough things, it has a world class reputation for making programs that, quite frankly, no-one in the world could make, and simply because of the way it is funded. Could you see ITV or Sky making something like Life on Earth or The Ascent of Man? I don't think so. It also has a world class news-gathering system, and is highly regarded. Screw ITV, if they want to make rubbish TV for idiots, let them. Apart from Corrie, what do they got? Nothing.

                                        ------------------------------------ "When Belly Full, Chin Hit Chest" Confucius 502BC

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                                        Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                        Having never seen any British TV on TV, I can't vouch for their current content, but ITV made Mind Your Language* which was very popular in India. Of course, the BBC had its own popular stuff like Yes Minister. Both these were telecast in India as well as remade in Hindi for Indian audiences. * Don't feel sorry for it or say it is inappropriate, on "our" behalf.

                                        Cheers, Vikram.

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                                        • N NormDroid

                                          What makes me laugh, considering all the fucking taxes bestowed up on us, immigrants flock to this country, it begs the question have the fuck can they afford to live in tax hell UK.

                                          Software Kinetics (requires SL3 beta) - Moving software

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                                          0x3c0
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                                          "I have a human right to life. By paying taxes, I cannot afford to eat. If I cannot afford to eat, I will die. Ergo, taxes breach my human rights"

                                          Between the idea And the reality Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow

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