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NASA: It would cost $370 million to convert to metric

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  • J Joe Woodbury

    I know exactly how easy it is to convert. We use metric for all designs at my current job. The point is that with CAD and other tools, it really doesn't matter. Metric is not some magical system; it's basis is just as arbitrary as English measurements.

    Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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    Rick Shaub
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    The Imperial system is way more arbitrary. Except for the kilogram, S.I. units are all based on naturally occuring constants: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/current.html[^]

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      The shuttles that NASA uses to fly to space currently use measurements in the form of pounds and feet as opposed to the more widely adopted meters and newtons. The upcoming shuttle replacement will continue to use the imperial measurement system because it would cost NASA $370 million dollars to convert to the "'International System' of units". NASA: It would cost $370 million to convert to metric[^] :wtf: :omg: Read the comments in that post.

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      the probably spent at least US100k for the study to determine what the conversion would cost

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      • R Rick Shaub

        The Imperial system is way more arbitrary. Except for the kilogram, S.I. units are all based on naturally occuring constants: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/current.html[^]

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        Joe Woodbury
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        Surely you're joking: "The meter is the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299 792 458 of a second." If that's not arbitrary, the word has no meaning. And how that's "naturally occurring" is beyond me.

        Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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        • L Lost User

          Me? Sarcastic? I'd simply argue that Kilograms are more widely used than Newtons (when comparing Pounds) and (here I may be wrong) I feel the UOM for Pounds of Thrust is Pounds of thrust, and not Pounds. Also, they were in opposite orders (as someone pointed out above) Sarcastic? No. Pedantic? welll......

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          'd simply argue that Kilograms are more widely used than Newtons

          Kilograms and Newtons have nothing to do with eachother. Kilograms is a unit o "mass", Newton is a unit of "force". You are mistaken if you beleive you weight 70kg. Your mass is 70kg and you weight approximately 686.5N (Newtons), depending where in planet earth you are standing. Mass (as for kilograms) doesn't change depending on your acceleration or position in the universe. The weight does. Astrounauts are almost weightless (Newtons), but they still got the same mass (kg). So saying that kilograms are more widely used than Newtons as kilograms doesn't make sense, as they have different applications. They are used where they apply. IT would make sense comparing the use of kilograms to pounds, or Newtons to Pounds of Thrust. Regards, Fábio

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            The US is converting to the metric system... inch by inch.

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            James Lonero
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            Probably more like millimeter by millimeter (or millimetre).

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              _Maxxx_ wrote:

              'd simply argue that Kilograms are more widely used than Newtons

              Kilograms and Newtons have nothing to do with eachother. Kilograms is a unit o "mass", Newton is a unit of "force". You are mistaken if you beleive you weight 70kg. Your mass is 70kg and you weight approximately 686.5N (Newtons), depending where in planet earth you are standing. Mass (as for kilograms) doesn't change depending on your acceleration or position in the universe. The weight does. Astrounauts are almost weightless (Newtons), but they still got the same mass (kg). So saying that kilograms are more widely used than Newtons as kilograms doesn't make sense, as they have different applications. They are used where they apply. IT would make sense comparing the use of kilograms to pounds, or Newtons to Pounds of Thrust. Regards, Fábio

              modified on Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:14 AM

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              ormonds
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              Ah, that little discussion is exactly why NASA should use metric at any cost. If any orgnisation needs to know the difference between mass and force it is surely them. The difference is intrinsic in mks. Ormond

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              • J Joe Woodbury

                Never understood why anyone cares. As long as you aren't mixing systems, either one works. "Oh, it's easier to convert..." Yeah, scientists are always doing complex calculations and conversions in their heads. Besides, knowing bureaucracies, some department somewhere wouldn't convert and the state of Florida would explode.

                Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                And that's a reason against?

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                  "Three nations have not officially adopted the International System of Units as their primary or sole system of measurement: Liberia, Myanmar and the United States."

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                  There is something rather beautifully ironic that the US of A which was so keen to cast off the shackles of imperialism is now the only sizable country using the imperial system. Ormond

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                  • O ormonds

                    And that's a reason against?

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                    Joe Woodbury
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                    No, just a thought. I'm bemused by people thinking that measurements, words and many other things have intrinsic meaning.

                    Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                    • O ormonds

                      Ah, that little discussion is exactly why NASA should use metric at any cost. If any orgnisation needs to know the difference between mass and force it is surely them. The difference is intrinsic in mks. Ormond

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                      Agreed!

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                      • L Lost User

                        The US is converting to the metric system... inch by inch.

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                        alex barylski
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                        Hahaha....thats hilarious...I'm changing my signature over at another forum to this statement :D

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