Maybe Microsoft needs to...
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Asking MS to develop a killer app is like asking them to give us a reliable version of visual studio...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Didn't you develop some Missile control systems in Visual Studio at one point of time? That is sure a Killer app.
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some of you might have been...but almost noone who use the OS are...even if they claim to be. By "almost noone", I would guess less than .001% (thats one person in every 100,000) actually use all the extra resources. For all practical purposes, it is idle CPU cycles that Vista uses.
kinar wrote:
For all practical purposes, it is idle CPU cycles that Vista uses.
Great idea. Didn't happen. When Vista SP1 takes longer to open a browser window than XP SP1 on the same machine, all the idle cycles that Vista was using prior to my asking for a new browser window might as well have been wasted.
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Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?
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There is one, they called it DirectX10.
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Didn't you develop some Missile control systems in Visual Studio at one point of time? That is sure a Killer app.
Yeah, right – you could build it using Java and some crapy IDE like NetBeans, but form other hand, who needs a missiles with 35 M/Ph maximum velocity?
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what 3rd party drivers do you have installed? is this a home-grown box?
they're all Dells. and they all have the same basic set of apps. nothing fancy.
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Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?
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Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?
Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com
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Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?
Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com
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Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?
Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com
How about an Associative Object Synthesis and Storage System - I'd love one of those.
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The killer app is to end-of-life XP. Hence, end "free" support of XP. Hence, business will adopt the new version of windows, vista for some (the more stupid or adventurous early adopters) or, like the organization I work for, leapfrog vista and go to Weven. Weven is what Vista should have been, just like WinXP/Win2000 is what Win98 should have been. Just my $0.00002.
"free" support of XP from Microsoft, where do I that?
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they're all Dells. and they all have the same basic set of apps. nothing fancy.
interesting, I've bought only Dells. They all had XP on them, except the latest laptop. All ran/run fine.
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Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?
Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com
M$ sucks with Vista and IE8... but... W7 is sensible better work comparing to Vista. However this wouldn't help too much as it doesn't matter how many "killer apps" you made - OS monster is making bucks on corporations. But "lazy big ass" IT managers don't want to upgrade to Vista and W7 because it will cost too much. Crying Bully running to his mommy - "They don't want to play with me! Aaaaa!" - and then she say - "Don't cry sonny, let them be poisoned by these apples like Adam and Eve".
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Well John, you know, it depends ... if they mean "killer app" as in "The last time he used Visual Studio, it crashed, he lost 3 hours of work, had a heart attack and died" ... then I think they've nailed it.
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win98SE was stable and was a great product. Far better than the first edition of XP as well. XPsp2 was good. Have you actually USED vista? I mean really used it, not just installed it, didn't like it and went back to XP? Or even worse, not just read about it and hopped on the Vista Suxorz!!11!One bandwagon? I've personally used Vista since launch (and even before launch with Betas) on all flavors of machines (laptops, high end desktops, below vista spec desktops, public workstations, media center machines, development machines, etc) and I've NEVER had problems that can be associated with the OS. It is far superior than XP in my personal experience. In fact, the one XP machine I still have is the least stable machine I own over the last 2 years. My personal experience with other people who actually HAVE used it is that they go in and tinker with it like you did with XP and break stuff. Or they just don't like that the OS takes up more resources (memory they wouldn't be using even when runnign the highest end applications/games). Thats like buying a new car, opening up the hood and taking out a few parts and wondering why it doesn't run as good as it should.
Only developer can see when application sucks and when it's not.
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Asking MS to develop a killer app is like asking them to give us a reliable version of visual studio...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001You have a way with words John.
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Weven is what Vista should have been, just like WinXP/Win2000 is what Win98 should have been.
You forgot a step or 2 there... Win98 is what Win95 should have been. WinXP is what WinME should have been. All of the good features of XP debuted in ME...they just didn't work well and the OS was unstable.
They have no plans to create what Win95 should have been.
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win98SE was stable and was a great product. Far better than the first edition of XP as well. XPsp2 was good. Have you actually USED vista? I mean really used it, not just installed it, didn't like it and went back to XP? Or even worse, not just read about it and hopped on the Vista Suxorz!!11!One bandwagon? I've personally used Vista since launch (and even before launch with Betas) on all flavors of machines (laptops, high end desktops, below vista spec desktops, public workstations, media center machines, development machines, etc) and I've NEVER had problems that can be associated with the OS. It is far superior than XP in my personal experience. In fact, the one XP machine I still have is the least stable machine I own over the last 2 years. My personal experience with other people who actually HAVE used it is that they go in and tinker with it like you did with XP and break stuff. Or they just don't like that the OS takes up more resources (memory they wouldn't be using even when runnign the highest end applications/games). Thats like buying a new car, opening up the hood and taking out a few parts and wondering why it doesn't run as good as it should.
I absolutely agree, vista didn't have problems the hardware vendors did and we all faled in hardware vendors evil to program drivers like crap in times that the OS has changed for good
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Asking MS to develop a killer app is like asking them to give us a reliable version of visual studio...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Actually VS 2010 is a killer app and skiping VS 2008 is just as dumb as skiping Vista for XP
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win98SE was stable and was a great product. Far better than the first edition of XP as well. XPsp2 was good. Have you actually USED vista? I mean really used it, not just installed it, didn't like it and went back to XP? Or even worse, not just read about it and hopped on the Vista Suxorz!!11!One bandwagon? I've personally used Vista since launch (and even before launch with Betas) on all flavors of machines (laptops, high end desktops, below vista spec desktops, public workstations, media center machines, development machines, etc) and I've NEVER had problems that can be associated with the OS. It is far superior than XP in my personal experience. In fact, the one XP machine I still have is the least stable machine I own over the last 2 years. My personal experience with other people who actually HAVE used it is that they go in and tinker with it like you did with XP and break stuff. Or they just don't like that the OS takes up more resources (memory they wouldn't be using even when runnign the highest end applications/games). Thats like buying a new car, opening up the hood and taking out a few parts and wondering why it doesn't run as good as it should.
Before SP1, Vista had an acknowledged network problem, causing such problems as a 1Gb file transfer which took maybe 1 min under XP taking over 8 hours, or giving up altogether with weird "destination not available" type messages. I've seen that lots of times. Just because your usage doesn't impact on such problems isn't a reason for assuming those problems are not real. I have a colleague who's mantra is "no change is too small" which he applies to any software amendments or machine configuration changes - and, much to my chagrin, he is almost always right :omg: A new OS will have millions of changes, all introduced in one hit to a massively diverse user and hardware base - it's impossible to guarantee that everything will work out of the box, but given that network data transfers must be essential to almost every business, I'm amazed that this particular problem didn't show up in testing...
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Maybe what Microsoft needs to pump of sales of their new W7, is to knock out a couple killer apps that requrie it.. If people can continue on like they have always with XP, what would make someone plunk down the big bucks for an upgrade?
Rocky <>< Recent Blog Post: Backup or Move Mozilla settings and data easily! Thinking about Silverlight? www.SilverlightCity.com
I think that many people have been holding off buying a new computer during the Vista Years. It might not fly from the shelves, but it will likely sell itself by "not being Vista".
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