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  • L Lost User

    Wow Mufasa! You are so close...

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    Why the f*ck are you calling me Musafa?

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      Why the f*ck are you calling me Musafa?

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      Why the f*ck are you calling me Musafa?

      Have you ever watched 'The Lion King'? I'm just trying to have some fun, your observations are really close to finding the solution.

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      • L Lost User

        I came up with a soltion to an age old problem:

        Q: How can you keep pigions from stealing all the seed?

        Requirements:
        a. The pegions can't feed at the feeder.
        b. The pegions can't feed from the ground below the feeder, where feed is placed and
        little birds knock the feed to the ground.
        c. The little birds can still feed with no problems.

        This would be a good interviewing question to test ones ability to solve design and engineering problems. I will post the solution in a few hours, or if someone comes up the same or equaly plausable solution. Hint: I came up with the solution because my Father started going nutz and throwing rocks at the pegions. ~TheArch :-D

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        Get a cat with an acquired taste for pigeons. :)

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          I came up with a soltion to an age old problem:

          Q: How can you keep pigions from stealing all the seed?

          Requirements:
          a. The pegions can't feed at the feeder.
          b. The pegions can't feed from the ground below the feeder, where feed is placed and
          little birds knock the feed to the ground.
          c. The little birds can still feed with no problems.

          This would be a good interviewing question to test ones ability to solve design and engineering problems. I will post the solution in a few hours, or if someone comes up the same or equaly plausable solution. Hint: I came up with the solution because my Father started going nutz and throwing rocks at the pegions. ~TheArch :-D

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          Lost User
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          A net (or .NET) around the area.

          Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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          • L Lost User

            I came up with a soltion to an age old problem:

            Q: How can you keep pigions from stealing all the seed?

            Requirements:
            a. The pegions can't feed at the feeder.
            b. The pegions can't feed from the ground below the feeder, where feed is placed and
            little birds knock the feed to the ground.
            c. The little birds can still feed with no problems.

            This would be a good interviewing question to test ones ability to solve design and engineering problems. I will post the solution in a few hours, or if someone comes up the same or equaly plausable solution. Hint: I came up with the solution because my Father started going nutz and throwing rocks at the pegions. ~TheArch :-D

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            Jim Crafton
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            TheArchitectmc∞ wrote:

            Q: How can you keep pigions from stealing all the seed?

            A: Shoot all the pigeons.

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            • L Lost User

              I came up with a soltion to an age old problem:

              Q: How can you keep pigions from stealing all the seed?

              Requirements:
              a. The pegions can't feed at the feeder.
              b. The pegions can't feed from the ground below the feeder, where feed is placed and
              little birds knock the feed to the ground.
              c. The little birds can still feed with no problems.

              This would be a good interviewing question to test ones ability to solve design and engineering problems. I will post the solution in a few hours, or if someone comes up the same or equaly plausable solution. Hint: I came up with the solution because my Father started going nutz and throwing rocks at the pegions. ~TheArch :-D

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              Okay since The Outlaw Programmer a.k.a John, has arrived at the fist set of observations to reach the conclusion I am going to impose a constraint. In the intervew you could do the same to see how your candidate works with in constraints. The candidate was given a computer. After searching the internet they found the following: 1. Special bird feeder which has eighter spring loaded perch, or just small enough to only allow the smaller birds to feed from the feeder. 2. The candidate found an obscure article about how to keep pegions away from feeders. Solution make a box with wire mesh under the feeder. Okay now to impose the constraint that will hopfully guide your candidate to the correct observation. Constraint: The owner of the feeder lives in a community that has deed restrictions goverend by a home owners association. All landscaping must be natual, no building, no wire mesh. This constrains solution #2.

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                Get a cat with an acquired taste for pigeons. :)

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                Haha, good observation. I once had a cat whom was a pro at killing birds. I asked my Father if getting the dog a pegion decoy would train her to attack pegions...

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                • L Lost User

                  A net (or .NET) around the area.

                  Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                  Trollslayer wrote:

                  A net (or .NET) around the area.

                  Yes, this is one of the solutions the extirminators offer. Unfortunatly, it doesn't comply with the new constraint imposed on the solution Outlaw John came up with.

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                  • J Jim Crafton

                    TheArchitectmc∞ wrote:

                    Q: How can you keep pigions from stealing all the seed?

                    A: Shoot all the pigeons.

                    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow

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                    Yes, this was previously perposed.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Okay but you return to find out that you have accidently help the dianasuars to evolve into man eating super freaks. They become the dominate species on earth.

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                      Nagy Vilmos
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                      TheArchitectmc∞ wrote:

                      dianasuars to evolve into man eating super freaks.

                      Then you feed the pigeons to the dinosuars. The stupid lizards are killed by the poisoned birds. Tow birds with one stone you might say!


                      Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        I would probably sit outside with a pellet gun and take out the pigeons when they land on the feeder. If I was up for a real challenge, I'd stand off about 50 yards and use a 22 rifle. Sometimes, brute force is the best way to approach a problem (and sometimes, it's more fun). Of course, you could always put the feeder inside a wire mesh cage with access holes large enough for small birds but too small for pigeons...

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        Instead of a pellet gun, stick with the classics[^]. ... My pulse will be quickenin' With each drop of strychnine We feed to a pigeon. It just takes a smidgen! To poison a pigeon in the park.

                        The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.

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                        • L Lost User

                          Okay since The Outlaw Programmer a.k.a John, has arrived at the fist set of observations to reach the conclusion I am going to impose a constraint. In the intervew you could do the same to see how your candidate works with in constraints. The candidate was given a computer. After searching the internet they found the following: 1. Special bird feeder which has eighter spring loaded perch, or just small enough to only allow the smaller birds to feed from the feeder. 2. The candidate found an obscure article about how to keep pegions away from feeders. Solution make a box with wire mesh under the feeder. Okay now to impose the constraint that will hopfully guide your candidate to the correct observation. Constraint: The owner of the feeder lives in a community that has deed restrictions goverend by a home owners association. All landscaping must be natual, no building, no wire mesh. This constrains solution #2.

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                          Michael Schubert
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                          TheArchitectmc∞ wrote:

                          I am going to impose a constraint

                          I vote against constraints.

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                          • L Lost User

                            Yes, this was previously perposed.

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                            Jim Crafton
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                            Damn, too slow reading the thread!

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                              I came up with a soltion to an age old problem:

                              Q: How can you keep pigions from stealing all the seed?

                              Requirements:
                              a. The pegions can't feed at the feeder.
                              b. The pegions can't feed from the ground below the feeder, where feed is placed and
                              little birds knock the feed to the ground.
                              c. The little birds can still feed with no problems.

                              This would be a good interviewing question to test ones ability to solve design and engineering problems. I will post the solution in a few hours, or if someone comes up the same or equaly plausable solution. Hint: I came up with the solution because my Father started going nutz and throwing rocks at the pegions. ~TheArch :-D

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                              0x3c0
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                              Buy a few myopic cats. It won't be able to see some of the small birds, but will kill the big pigeons

                              Between the idea And the reality Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow

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                              • L Lost User

                                Very good Mufasa, you are getting close to illumination.

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                                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                TheArchitectmc∞ wrote:

                                Mufasa

                                That's not how you spell my name! Its MUSTAFA

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                                  Buy a few myopic cats. It won't be able to see some of the small birds, but will kill the big pigeons

                                  Between the idea And the reality Between the motion And the act Falls the Shadow

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Hmm, this is really an example of thinking outside the box! Good one!

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    Okay, get Chris to put Spell Check on these WYSIWIG editors and my dyslexia won't shine through so much.

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                                    Russell Jones
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                                    What kind of POS browser are you using that you don't have a spell checker built in?

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                                      PETA approved version: acheive 100% employment of pigeons in the carrier business provide them with corporate cantina stamp book sooooo easy.... not like the question i was once asked "how do i determine the weight of a 747" i said, "rtfm or just ask the pilot" where the 'out of the box' answer was to chop it up into small pieces and weigh it on a regular scale....boy, did i learn a lot that day *no hijacking/off topic intended

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                                      Russell Jones
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                                      Does this not involve some land it on an aircraft carrier guff?

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                                      • J Jim Crafton

                                        Damn, too slow reading the thread!

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                                        The funb isn't over yet, check out Hint #2. Adding a constraint.

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                                        • R Russell Jones

                                          What kind of POS browser are you using that you don't have a spell checker built in?

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                                          The kind that requires an advanced degree in engineering. Oops! It's the fatal scenario of 'The pilot don't know what the toggle switch is...' Fighter Jocks have no idea what the 'Official Switch does' Thanks for showing me my ID10T card! :laugh: Ever hear the one about the PHD who kept running into a tree on his way to his car in the parking lot. He made them move the tree. True story. :laugh:

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