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  • M Michael Bookatz

    Okay, so far I've managed to loss 19kg (that's just under 3 stone of weight) but almost none of it is coming from my belly at the moment. Any suggestions from anyone out there how to shift the belly fat? Thanks

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    Nagy Vilmos
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    Just had an idea about a motivational tactic. Something to push you on. Change your sig to read: Weight at start [d/m/y] ----- Weight now [d/m/y] ----- Target weight by [d/m/y] ----- Update it after each weigh in. People will see it and [more importantly] you know that you can't back out just because you feel like it. The less room you have to change the rules, the more likely you are to suck seed.


    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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    • M Michael Bookatz

      How often though? there seems to be people who say everyday and others 2 -3 times a week!

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      Pierre Leclercq
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      The problem is about balancing effort with recovery. Going from nothing to 3 times a week will make a big difference, and is easy to recover from. Going from 3 times a week to 5 or 7 times a week will provide less difference (like going from 80% to 90%), and will require more care about recovery and avoiding injuries.

      You can't turn lead into gold, unless you've built yourself a nuclear plant.

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      • N Nagy Vilmos

        Just had an idea about a motivational tactic. Something to push you on. Change your sig to read: Weight at start [d/m/y] ----- Weight now [d/m/y] ----- Target weight by [d/m/y] ----- Update it after each weigh in. People will see it and [more importantly] you know that you can't back out just because you feel like it. The less room you have to change the rules, the more likely you are to suck seed.


        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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        Michael Bookatz
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        Lets try it and see how it goes!

        Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127 Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108 Target weight : 80 Only 38 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!

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        • M Michael Bookatz

          Lets try it and see how it goes!

          Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127 Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108 Target weight : 80 Only 38 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!

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          Nagy Vilmos
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          Is that pounds or kilos?


          Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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          • M Michael Schubert

            Dalek Dave wrote:

            Making love to a beautiful woman

            So, making love to an ugly not so beautiful woman won't do the trick?

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            Duncan Edwards Jones
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            Michael Schubert wrote:

            So, making love to an ugly not so beautiful woman won't do the trick?

            No - like all forms of exercise it's the repetitions that do the work.

            '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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            • N Nagy Vilmos

              Is that pounds or kilos?


              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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              Michael Bookatz
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              kilos

              Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108kg Target weight : 80kg Only 38 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!

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                Along with the others, sadly your gut is the last place were excess body mass goes from. You will find that you probably have lost some weight from your torso, but not as much proportionaly as the limbs. You need to use endurance exercise to burn the fat, diet will not do enough. If you like to sit down then try an ergo [indoor rowing machine]. Try to do a very low rate, say 10-15 stroke/minute, for as long as you can. This is really quite funny. You start off and think one stroke every 5 seconds is not going to hurt. [1 minute later] I can feel it but it's not hard. [5 min] who *puff* would *puff* have *gasp* thou... MEDIC! MAN DOWN IN THE GYM!


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                daniilzol
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                Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                You need to use endurance exercise to burn the fat, diet will not do enough.

                Technically no he doesn't. As long as he eats less calories than he expands in a day, he will lose weight. However, human body can also dissolve muscles for energy, not just fat, so exercising will help maximizing fat loss and minimize muscle loss. To the OP, I wasn't saying you shouldn't exercise, you definitely should if you want better and faster results. Plus being skinny doesn't mean being in great shape. If you haven't been exercising a lot, even if you lose weight and become skinny you still won't be able to run 3 miles, and that actually matters more than getting your body down to single digit body fat percentage.

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                  What Chris said. Also, if you train your belly muscles, the muscles will tighten up, and make the belly flatter. Sit-ups are good.

                  -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                  Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                  Also, if you train your belly muscles, the muscles will tighten up, and make the belly flatter.

                  He won't be seeing those muscles if there is a layer of fat over them.

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                  • M Michael Bookatz

                    Lets try it and see how it goes!

                    Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127 Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108 Target weight : 80 Only 38 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!

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                    Lost User
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                    hopingToCode wrote:

                    Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108 Target weight : 80 Only 38 TO go

                    Don't you mean 28?

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                      hopingToCode wrote:

                      Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108 Target weight : 80 Only 38 TO go

                      Don't you mean 28?

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                      Michael Bookatz
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                      ops corrected now

                      Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108kg Target weight : 80kg Only 28 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!

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                      • M Michael Bookatz

                        Okay, so far I've managed to loss 19kg (that's just under 3 stone of weight) but almost none of it is coming from my belly at the moment. Any suggestions from anyone out there how to shift the belly fat? Thanks

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                        dan sh
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                        hopingToCode wrote:

                        Any suggestions from anyone out there how to shift the belly fat?

                        Simple, take a deep breath and pull your belly in, forever.

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                          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                          Also, if you train your belly muscles, the muscles will tighten up, and make the belly flatter.

                          He won't be seeing those muscles if there is a layer of fat over them.

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                          Michael Bookatz
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                          But when the fat goes

                          Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108kg Target weight : 80kg Only 28 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!

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                            Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                            You need to use endurance exercise to burn the fat, diet will not do enough.

                            Technically no he doesn't. As long as he eats less calories than he expands in a day, he will lose weight. However, human body can also dissolve muscles for energy, not just fat, so exercising will help maximizing fat loss and minimize muscle loss. To the OP, I wasn't saying you shouldn't exercise, you definitely should if you want better and faster results. Plus being skinny doesn't mean being in great shape. If you haven't been exercising a lot, even if you lose weight and become skinny you still won't be able to run 3 miles, and that actually matters more than getting your body down to single digit body fat percentage.

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                            Nagy Vilmos
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                            JazzJackRabbit wrote:

                            Technically no he doesn't. As long as he eats less calories than he expands in a day, he will lose weight

                            The human body is an amazing thing. If you reduce your intake then you will initially loose weight, but then the body's metabolism starts to slow. Then you need to eat less [and so on]. Also, the body mass lost at this point will be the /wrong/ fats; I can't remember which way round it is and I can't be bothered to search. If you are overeating, sure reduce your intake. But for a normal diet, control the intake and then bring the exercise level upto and then over the intake. But the exercise does need to be endureance to ensure that all the muscle fat is burned away FIRST and that it turn forces the body fat to be burned. Low diet just uses up fat the other way.


                            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                            • M Michael Bookatz

                              I don't have a WII my brother does!

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                              Mark_Wallace
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                              hopingToCode wrote:

                              I don't have a WII my brother does!

                              Well, configure him as a proxy, to do your running for you.

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              • M Michael Bookatz

                                But when the fat goes

                                Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108kg Target weight : 80kg Only 28 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!

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                                UserNameless
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                                ooooh that layer of fat's gonna be really hard to burn to show ripped abs. pretty much no oil, no fatty food, certainly not any pie!

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                                • M Michael Bookatz

                                  Okay, so far I've managed to loss 19kg (that's just under 3 stone of weight) but almost none of it is coming from my belly at the moment. Any suggestions from anyone out there how to shift the belly fat? Thanks

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                                  kinar
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                                  over the past year I've lost close to 50lbs just from walking after work and very small changes in diet (mostly adding more fruits and veggies). The belly and the man boobs are the last to go. You will see weight-loss in your face and arms first.

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                                    ooooh that layer of fat's gonna be really hard to burn to show ripped abs. pretty much no oil, no fatty food, certainly not any pie!

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                                    Michael Bookatz
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                                    But I'll get there..maybe in 45345635623 years but I'll get there!

                                    Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108kg Target weight : 80kg Only 28 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!

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                                      over the past year I've lost close to 50lbs just from walking after work and very small changes in diet (mostly adding more fruits and veggies). The belly and the man boobs are the last to go. You will see weight-loss in your face and arms first.

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                                      Michael Bookatz
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                                      Same here

                                      Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108kg Target weight : 80kg Only 28 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!

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                                      • M Michael Bookatz

                                        Okay, so far I've managed to loss 19kg (that's just under 3 stone of weight) but almost none of it is coming from my belly at the moment. Any suggestions from anyone out there how to shift the belly fat? Thanks

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                                        daniilzol
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                                        There are already good suggestions above me, but I will add some more. First congrats on losing so much weight, at the very least it shows that you're serious about it which means you're already half way there. You just need more time. I myself have been trying to get in better shape for a year, and I must stress, it takes a frigging long time. Do not be discouraged if you do not see results fast enough. Chances are it took you a long time to put on this weight, and it will take you long time to get it off. Good news is, it's possible and except for a few genetic freaks everyone can do it given enough persistence. Before I go on I must say that being skinny and being athletic are two completely different things. I say this because people often confuse them and they are not the same. Being skinny means that you have low body fat percentage, but it doesn't mean that you also have a lot of muscle on you and it doesn't mean that you can do triathlons. Being athletic means you actually have muscle on you, you can actually do physical activity, you can bike, hike and run without feeling like you're about to have a heart attack. Although not common, there are skinny un-athletic people who look like a stick and have trouble lifting more than 50 pounds and there are slightly overweight athletic people (american football players is a good example). If you want to get in great shape you need two things: you need to lose fat first, and after you did that then you need to build your stamina, endurance and muscles. Typically you cannot do both at the same time, and exercising while you still have a lot of fat is more difficult because your heart must work harder pumping blood through your body. Most helpful thing you can do is start counting your calories. I know it sounds embarrassing for a man to count calories, after all, WE ARE FARKING MEN, RAWRRRRRRR. However, calories are everything. To put it simply, your body need certain number of calories throughout the day to survive. This number will vary on a number of factors such as gender, height, genetics and physical activity throughout the day. There are calculators on the web, they are all approximate but they should give you an idea where to shoot for. If you want to lose fat, you have to eat less calories than your body needs throughout a day. You have to be careful because if you eat too few calories you will also start to lose muscle mass along with fat (your body might shift into survival mode) and you might become one of those skinny un-athletic people wi

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                                        • M Michael Bookatz

                                          Same here

                                          Weight loss Target Weight at start [1/Feb/2009] 127kg Weight now [24/Jul/2009] 108kg Target weight : 80kg Only 28 TO go hope to be there by March Wish me luck!

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                                          kinar
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                                          although being a year into this process...I can tell you that if you just keeping doing what you are doing, it will eventually come off. I'm finally to the point where my body's only real option is to burn belly fat and it is certainly starting to shrink. The other thing that I've noticed is that the weight seems to come off in bursts. I will weight the same weight for 2 months and then drop 10lbs the next month. It isn't a constant loss for me. kinda seems like my body doesn't want to let go of the weight until it is positive that I won't need it and at that point it waves goodbye. The one thing I've found important for me personally is to not set target goals and to not weigh myself more than once a week (its actually been about 2 months since I last weighed myself). There are 2 reasons for this. The first is that this has really been a lifestyle change for me and not really a "diet" (I've changed my diet but I don't consider myself to be dieting). I don't plan on ever going back to the way I used to be. It isn't so much about losing weight as it is about feeling better. My Doctor (mis)diagnosed "Acid Reflux disease" has cleared up completely since I started excercising. I don't feel like crap for the first 30-60mins of every day anymore. Etc. The second reason is that if I don't set goals and don't constantly weight myself, then I don't ever feel bad about screwing up. The most important thing about this process for me is feeling good about myself and missing goals or worrying about the twinkie I had yesterday just makes me want to quit and give up. sure there are gonna be setbacks along the way and there have been weeks that I've gained a pound or two but the important thing is not to let those weeks become consecutive. It allows me to splurge but not feel bad about it knowing that the short term isn't a priority.

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