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  • M martin_hughes

    Yeah, that's reeeeeeeeeeeeeeal cheerful, Dougie :D

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    Douglas Troy
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    martin_hughes wrote:

    Yeah, that's reeeeeeeeeeeeeeal cheerful, Dougie :D

    Hey, I'm just trying to consider some real world scenarios that might have happened. Of course, I could be totally wrong, and the guy hit the lottery, married a gorgeous Italian Super Model, who's best GF is also a Super Model and they like to "experiment", and together they have run off to his new private island, leaving the world of Software Development behind ...


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      martin_hughes wrote:

      Yeah, that's reeeeeeeeeeeeeeal cheerful, Dougie :D

      Hey, I'm just trying to consider some real world scenarios that might have happened. Of course, I could be totally wrong, and the guy hit the lottery, married a gorgeous Italian Super Model, who's best GF is also a Super Model and they like to "experiment", and together they have run off to his new private island, leaving the world of Software Development behind ...


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      Douglas Troy wrote:

      Of course, I could be totally wrong, and the guy hit the lottery, married a gorgeous Italian Super Model, who's best GF is also a Super Model and they like to "experiment", and together they have run off to his new private island, leaving the world of Software Development behind ...

      Yeah, that's reeeeeeeeeeeeeal likely, Dougie ;P

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      • N Nemanja Trifunovic

        This is weird (centos.org)[^]: " July 30, 2009 04:39 UTC This is an Open Letter to Lance Davis from fellow CentOS Developers It is regrettable that we are forced to send this letter but we are left with no other options. For some time now we have been attempting to resolve these problems: You seem to have crawled into a hole ... and this is not acceptable. You have long promised a statement of CentOS project funds; to this date this has not appeared. You hold sole control of the centos.org domain with no deputy; this is not proper. You have, it seems, sole 'Founders' rights in the IRC channels with no deputy ; this is not proper. When I (Russ) try to call the phone numbers for UK Linux, and for you individually, I get a telco intercept 'Lines are temporarily busy' for the last two weeks. Finally yesterday, a voicemail in your voice picked up, and I left a message urgently requesting a reply. Karanbir also reports calling and leaving messages without your reply. Please do not kill CentOS through your fear of shared management of the project. Clearly the project dies if all the developers walk away. Please contact me, or any other signer of this letter at once, to arrange for the required information to keep the project alive at the 'centos.org' domain. Sincerely, Russ Herrold Ralph Angenendt Karanbir Singh Jim Perrin Donavan Nelson Tim Verhoeven Tru Huynh Johnny Hughes " CentOS is my favorite Linux distro - I hope they find their lost leader :)

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        Brady Kelly
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        Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

        Please do not kill CentOS through your fear of shared management of the project.

        Maybe it's his fear of being caught with his hands in the till?

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        • M martin_hughes

          Douglas Troy wrote:

          Of course, I could be totally wrong, and the guy hit the lottery, married a gorgeous Italian Super Model, who's best GF is also a Super Model and they like to "experiment", and together they have run off to his new private island, leaving the world of Software Development behind ...

          Yeah, that's reeeeeeeeeeeeeal likely, Dougie ;P

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          Douglas Troy
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          ... yea, that private island part was a bit over the top ... there's no way he'd get a loan approved that fast these days ... :rolleyes:


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          • N Nemanja Trifunovic

            This is weird (centos.org)[^]: " July 30, 2009 04:39 UTC This is an Open Letter to Lance Davis from fellow CentOS Developers It is regrettable that we are forced to send this letter but we are left with no other options. For some time now we have been attempting to resolve these problems: You seem to have crawled into a hole ... and this is not acceptable. You have long promised a statement of CentOS project funds; to this date this has not appeared. You hold sole control of the centos.org domain with no deputy; this is not proper. You have, it seems, sole 'Founders' rights in the IRC channels with no deputy ; this is not proper. When I (Russ) try to call the phone numbers for UK Linux, and for you individually, I get a telco intercept 'Lines are temporarily busy' for the last two weeks. Finally yesterday, a voicemail in your voice picked up, and I left a message urgently requesting a reply. Karanbir also reports calling and leaving messages without your reply. Please do not kill CentOS through your fear of shared management of the project. Clearly the project dies if all the developers walk away. Please contact me, or any other signer of this letter at once, to arrange for the required information to keep the project alive at the 'centos.org' domain. Sincerely, Russ Herrold Ralph Angenendt Karanbir Singh Jim Perrin Donavan Nelson Tim Verhoeven Tru Huynh Johnny Hughes " CentOS is my favorite Linux distro - I hope they find their lost leader :)

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            kinar
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            just sayin...

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            • N Nemanja Trifunovic

              This is weird (centos.org)[^]: " July 30, 2009 04:39 UTC This is an Open Letter to Lance Davis from fellow CentOS Developers It is regrettable that we are forced to send this letter but we are left with no other options. For some time now we have been attempting to resolve these problems: You seem to have crawled into a hole ... and this is not acceptable. You have long promised a statement of CentOS project funds; to this date this has not appeared. You hold sole control of the centos.org domain with no deputy; this is not proper. You have, it seems, sole 'Founders' rights in the IRC channels with no deputy ; this is not proper. When I (Russ) try to call the phone numbers for UK Linux, and for you individually, I get a telco intercept 'Lines are temporarily busy' for the last two weeks. Finally yesterday, a voicemail in your voice picked up, and I left a message urgently requesting a reply. Karanbir also reports calling and leaving messages without your reply. Please do not kill CentOS through your fear of shared management of the project. Clearly the project dies if all the developers walk away. Please contact me, or any other signer of this letter at once, to arrange for the required information to keep the project alive at the 'centos.org' domain. Sincerely, Russ Herrold Ralph Angenendt Karanbir Singh Jim Perrin Donavan Nelson Tim Verhoeven Tru Huynh Johnny Hughes " CentOS is my favorite Linux distro - I hope they find their lost leader :)

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              Dario Solera
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              Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

              You hold sole control of the centos.org domain with no deputy; this is not proper. You have, it seems, sole 'Founders' rights in the IRC channels with no deputy ; this is not proper. Please do not kill CentOS through your fear of shared management of the project.

              Even if he decided to deliberately pull out from the project, the source code (I guess) is available under GPL, I don't see why they can't fork if the need to. I'm sure that all contributors will follow. Moreover, merging the fork back to the trunk is relatively easy nowadays.

              If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki

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              • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                This is weird (centos.org)[^]: " July 30, 2009 04:39 UTC This is an Open Letter to Lance Davis from fellow CentOS Developers It is regrettable that we are forced to send this letter but we are left with no other options. For some time now we have been attempting to resolve these problems: You seem to have crawled into a hole ... and this is not acceptable. You have long promised a statement of CentOS project funds; to this date this has not appeared. You hold sole control of the centos.org domain with no deputy; this is not proper. You have, it seems, sole 'Founders' rights in the IRC channels with no deputy ; this is not proper. When I (Russ) try to call the phone numbers for UK Linux, and for you individually, I get a telco intercept 'Lines are temporarily busy' for the last two weeks. Finally yesterday, a voicemail in your voice picked up, and I left a message urgently requesting a reply. Karanbir also reports calling and leaving messages without your reply. Please do not kill CentOS through your fear of shared management of the project. Clearly the project dies if all the developers walk away. Please contact me, or any other signer of this letter at once, to arrange for the required information to keep the project alive at the 'centos.org' domain. Sincerely, Russ Herrold Ralph Angenendt Karanbir Singh Jim Perrin Donavan Nelson Tim Verhoeven Tru Huynh Johnny Hughes " CentOS is my favorite Linux distro - I hope they find their lost leader :)

                Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                Dario Solera
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                On a side note, an open letter like that might scare away users...

                If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                  This is weird (centos.org)[^]: " July 30, 2009 04:39 UTC This is an Open Letter to Lance Davis from fellow CentOS Developers It is regrettable that we are forced to send this letter but we are left with no other options. For some time now we have been attempting to resolve these problems: You seem to have crawled into a hole ... and this is not acceptable. You have long promised a statement of CentOS project funds; to this date this has not appeared. You hold sole control of the centos.org domain with no deputy; this is not proper. You have, it seems, sole 'Founders' rights in the IRC channels with no deputy ; this is not proper. When I (Russ) try to call the phone numbers for UK Linux, and for you individually, I get a telco intercept 'Lines are temporarily busy' for the last two weeks. Finally yesterday, a voicemail in your voice picked up, and I left a message urgently requesting a reply. Karanbir also reports calling and leaving messages without your reply. Please do not kill CentOS through your fear of shared management of the project. Clearly the project dies if all the developers walk away. Please contact me, or any other signer of this letter at once, to arrange for the required information to keep the project alive at the 'centos.org' domain. Sincerely, Russ Herrold Ralph Angenendt Karanbir Singh Jim Perrin Donavan Nelson Tim Verhoeven Tru Huynh Johnny Hughes " CentOS is my favorite Linux distro - I hope they find their lost leader :)

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                  Lost User
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                  Then get his address since he controls the domain, there must be someone within driving distance. Sorry, that's a hardware solution. :doh:

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                    Then get his address since he controls the domain, there must be someone within driving distance. Sorry, that's a hardware solution. :doh:

                    Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                    Brady Kelly
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                    Trollslayer wrote:

                    driving distance.

                    Ha, the only cp'er in driving distance of me, figured through my domain, hasn't been here for a while. So much for 'driving distance'. :laugh:

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                    • D Dario Solera

                      Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                      You hold sole control of the centos.org domain with no deputy; this is not proper. You have, it seems, sole 'Founders' rights in the IRC channels with no deputy ; this is not proper. Please do not kill CentOS through your fear of shared management of the project.

                      Even if he decided to deliberately pull out from the project, the source code (I guess) is available under GPL, I don't see why they can't fork if the need to. I'm sure that all contributors will follow. Moreover, merging the fork back to the trunk is relatively easy nowadays.

                      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                      Dan Neely
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                      The source yes, the domain's in his name, as apparently are the financials, those are harder to deal with.

                      The European Way of War: Blow your own continent up. The American Way of War: Go over and help them.

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                      • D Douglas Troy

                        Not trying to be morbid or anything, but have they considered that maybe the guy lives alone and has died? Perhaps they should be contacting authorities, instead of posting "open letters" that a dead person is going to be unable to respond to ... Just say'in.


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                        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                        From CentOS.org

                        We are sure he is not dead, on vacation, or sick.

                        Looks like people saw your post and updated the centos.org page.:)

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                        • D Douglas Troy

                          Not trying to be morbid or anything, but have they considered that maybe the guy lives alone and has died? Perhaps they should be contacting authorities, instead of posting "open letters" that a dead person is going to be unable to respond to ... Just say'in.


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                          skydvr
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                          From the "Facts regarding the open letter" section of the linked webpage: "We are sure he is not dead, on vacation, or sick." FWIW.

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