Jobless IT graduate sues her college
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leckey wrote:
What college GUARANTEES any kind of a job?
That is exactly what I was thinking. The judge should just throw this case out.:mad:
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besides that he should help her into a mental asylum and sentence those who abetted her from doing that with really tough sentences so that this would be an eyeopener for others from not wasting the time of the judiciary.
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The world of The Netherlands - you have no Master's, then you are a drop out. It's suspicious. Why wouldn't have you have a Master's? Lazyness: bad. Lack of skill: worse.
I got a job in the Netherlands without a bachelors
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Being English I sometimes really feel for Americans having for to put up with people like this -->Clickety :wtf: I mean seriously, who is going to employ her now?
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
I'm familiar with this college. It started out as a storefront quickie career brushup place - geared towards providing business skills, like typing. Then it became accredited. Not sure how or when. It then expanded, consuming a couple of city blocks. A fine example of the state of private higher education for the masses in this country. Ignoring the fact that maybe you barely learned how to spell or do "grammer" during your primary years. I would think that anyone who graduated would be somewhat aware of what they were in for when they got out - especially in this economy.
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Being English I sometimes really feel for Americans having for to put up with people like this -->Clickety :wtf: I mean seriously, who is going to employ her now?
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
This kind of thing makes me angry to be an American. Though I am certain it is not limited to us. I am baffled by someone who would put thier future in someone else's hands just because they said they would help them get a job. All I can think of is that there will be a multitude of Nigerians making money off of this one.
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Being English I sometimes really feel for Americans having for to put up with people like this -->Clickety :wtf: I mean seriously, who is going to employ her now?
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
In a string of related stories, a Vermont man sues his washing machine for not automatically doing his laundry, a Florida woman sues McDonalds when her food goes bad, days after purchase, and a New Mexico teen sues his willy for not getting laid. @guy -- let's not make this about America shall we? It's not like the UK doesn't have it's share of festering tits. Political and personal freedom mixed with comfortable levels of survivability breed entitlement in the bottom percentage of intellects no matter where you live.
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Agreed. I saw she sued for 70K USD only. she would have added 150K for causing mental trauma and 150K more for loss of valuable time. ;P
The judge should award her the 70k if the agrees to give the education back... Or at least get rid of it. Lobotomy time!
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Hey, I think she deserves every penny of.... of..... *cracks up*.... Sorry, can't even type that with a straight face. I just want to assure everyone that the rest of us New Yorkers are not nearly that stupid. Not all of us, at least.
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leckey wrote:
What college GUARANTEES any kind of a job?
Poor girl didnt learn that colleges guarantee learning, not jobs.
LOL I don't think so... They promise an education. As for learning -- You can lead a horse to water...
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I'm not sure what planet you live on, but outside of Google, Master's degrees do nothing to help job prospects outside of very narrow fields (and the scoop is that even Google is regretting that stance.)
I live on planet upper management where an MBA is a requirement for entry. Hope all is well on planet coderforlife ;)
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My initial reaction was "who cares". Unless you're a cum laude, your gpa doesn't do anything for your career prospects. Or does it? Do fresh grads with no work experience get asked about their gpa? As an employer I would want to know because it is an indicator of work ethic... (I haven't hired entry level, so I haven't been in tha position. )
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My first reaction was similar to many here, but then I read one story that pointed out that Monroe College had bragged about their placement rates and how much they did to get you a job and all that. The legal question is whether Monroe College made a contract or whether their claims constituted a contract. If they did (and I think they did), are they really liable for the graduate's tuition (that's where I'm skeptical.) This does raise a question, though, about what liability universities have for making claims and promises about job placement or even job possibilities that simply aren't true. Yes, everyone should know that colleges and universities have long way oversold the value of their services, but should they get away with their lies forever?
Joe Woodbury wrote:
My first reaction was similar to many here, but then I read one story that pointed out that Monroe College had bragged about their placement rates and how much they did to get you a job and all that...
That is my point as well. We see so much of nonsensical lawsuits like this that the knee jerk reaction is to condemn it at face value. However, the case may have merit and we should consider that a lot of details are not reported or are underreported. (The media in the U.S. loves to skew the facts of a story for their political inclinations or benefit -- i.e. ratings.) Whether there is any guarantee of placement may not be the argument. Whether they really tried to place her in the first place may be the argument. And as for the amount consider that with any negotiation you always start on the high end. I'm not saying this woman is not a flake. I'm simply saying I don't know. Nor does anyone else here.
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Pravarakhya wrote:
she would have added 150K for causing mental trauma and 150K more for loss of valuable time.
Ahhh.. the American way! ;)
jeron1 wrote:
Ahhh.. the American way!
Not my American way! ;P If I were the judge I'd make sure there was a sitcom laugh track queued up on the courtroom sounds system. I'm sure there would be many other fellow countrymen ready to take a turn on the play button, too! :laugh:
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It seems that people now accept no responsibility for anything at all. Twice, I was unemployed (due to recession), and I didn't see it as anybody's direct fault.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Twice, I was unemployed (due to recession), and I didn't see it as anybody's direct fault.
Recessions are invariable the fault of greedy bustards.
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Being English I sometimes really feel for Americans having for to put up with people like this -->Clickety :wtf: I mean seriously, who is going to employ her now?
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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Being English I sometimes really feel for Americans having for to put up with people like this -->Clickety :wtf: I mean seriously, who is going to employ her now?
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
As soon as I read the headline yesterday, I knew she had to be from NY. Being from NY myself I know how everyone thinks the solution to all of their problems is to sue someone. It's also the only place where a judge will allow such a stupid law suit to go to court.
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I live on planet upper management where an MBA is a requirement for entry. Hope all is well on planet coderforlife ;)
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Hope all is well on planet coderforlife
Yep, I get to play with cool new things, mostly for inhouse use and future products. Also I've had no direct underlings since the last interns which means I don't have to get in early and rip my hair out! :)
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I live on planet upper management where an MBA is a requirement for entry. Hope all is well on planet coderforlife ;)
Oh, you live on planet Clueless Asshole? :) :)
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I read this earlier myself and said to myself, "WTF?" What college GUARANTEES any kind of a job? Let's face it, she hasn't found her perfect dream job. It says nothing if she has looked for something similar or even a lower wage paying job for the meantime.
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ITT Technical Institute does! I see it on my TV every day. "At ITT Technical Institutes, we are committed to helping men and women develop the skills and knowledge to pursue many opportunities in today's fastest growing career fields, including electronics, web development, computer programming,computer networking, computer drafting and design, criminal justice, business and health sciences" Most people go to college with the idea that the education you receive is going to get you a well paying job at the end. Otherwise why piss away tens of thousands of dollars? A lot of educational institutions oversell their ability to get you a job if you attend their institution and they are the masters of bait and switch. "Our counselor might have told you that you would get a job as a result of graduating from our institution but we never actually guaranteed it."
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GuyThiebaut wrote:
I mean seriously, who is going to employ her now?
Monroe College?
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I was unemployed for 4 months after I graduated...can I recoup that money!!!
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The judge should award her the 70k if the agrees to give the education back... Or at least get rid of it. Lobotomy time!
Good point - but considering that she now has demolished any chance she ever had of getting a job in the IT industry, maybe she's already had someone "... cut into her brain some ..."