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Average 8 for all employees, or for IT people? I changed 5 times from 18 to 30 and that was considered a lot at the time I now have about 18 under my belt! 1 job every 18 months looks bad on a resume unless you're contracting or your career is progressing (and one always wonders why you need to move to progres syour career). When employing I like loyalty - I like to feel people working with me will be around, will ahve some buy-in to the company and not just be 'workers'. And what is meant by 'growth' in a career? I've known many a good developer ruined by some strange belief that they really needed to become a project manager in order to 'grow' - unfortunately a good developer does not (necessarily) a good PM make!
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I've been given the advice that I need to become either a PM or an architect. There is a tendency to believe something if you hear it enough. I enjoy developing, so I always wonder why I would have to change? To avoid learning new technology?
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.. since you were 18 to when you were 30 (or so far if your age < 30) The average I have heard is around 8. I was reading a book which said that people who change at least 8 jobs by the time they are 30 have more growth in career. How true is it? BTW I have changed only 3 jobs.
I was in school at 18. 19 - Junior Technical Assistant, Dept of Electrical Engineering, Meb Uni ( temp position ) 20 - worked in the library at Melb Uni ages are fuzzy from here worked with my dad as a gardener while studying worked in a call center begging for charity sold chocolate door to door sold vacuum cleaners door to door sold dry cleaning to businesses sold coffee and tea ( Robert TImms ) sold stationery ( SPS Supply ) -- started programming in 1999 -- worked for Viewbuild worked for Dytech Solutions worked for MAST Technology worked for VDIC working for Webster Veterinary That does not count contract work, only full time. Oh, I am 40. I started programming at 30. In that case, 9 jobs.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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.. since you were 18 to when you were 30 (or so far if your age < 30) The average I have heard is around 8. I was reading a book which said that people who change at least 8 jobs by the time they are 30 have more growth in career. How true is it? BTW I have changed only 3 jobs.
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.. since you were 18 to when you were 30 (or so far if your age < 30) The average I have heard is around 8. I was reading a book which said that people who change at least 8 jobs by the time they are 30 have more growth in career. How true is it? BTW I have changed only 3 jobs.
I had 3 jobs, with two changes.
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
a good developer does not (necessarily) a good PM make
I've spent the last 15 years ducking that move. When I got the current contract it was stated clearly that I am a developer, will stay a developer and will not be "promoted" or have my "career" managed. They recently tried to get me interested in Oracle BI so I narrowed the definition to applications developer. HR really don't like me.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
When I was an IT Manager, the rest of the snr mgt team couldn;t understnad why the payscales I requested overlapped. How could a developer possibly be paid more than a team leader? The truth of the matter is that some people were more valuable to me as developers than they would have been as team leaders - so I wanted to pay them sufficiently to keep 'em happy in the role without them thinking they needed promotionto get better remuneration. It worked well. nil staff turnover in 5 years. Of course there was the occasional bellyache when a team leader found they earned less than a developer -old habits dying hard - but generally all was well. I just got plain bored with the management game - took a redundancy package at the right time and haven't looked back (well, not much, unfortunately even developers as good as me rarely make as much as Snr IT Managers!)
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.. since you were 18 to when you were 30 (or so far if your age < 30) The average I have heard is around 8. I was reading a book which said that people who change at least 8 jobs by the time they are 30 have more growth in career. How true is it? BTW I have changed only 3 jobs.
10 and I turned 30 this year.
Idaho Edokpayi
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Once. Been working for 5 years, and this is my second job. I am trying to change careers at my current job though. :)
Cheers, Vikram. (Proud to have finally cracked a CCC!)
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I am trying to change careers at my current job though.
Trying to move into a business analysis role?
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I was in school at 18. 19 - Junior Technical Assistant, Dept of Electrical Engineering, Meb Uni ( temp position ) 20 - worked in the library at Melb Uni ages are fuzzy from here worked with my dad as a gardener while studying worked in a call center begging for charity sold chocolate door to door sold vacuum cleaners door to door sold dry cleaning to businesses sold coffee and tea ( Robert TImms ) sold stationery ( SPS Supply ) -- started programming in 1999 -- worked for Viewbuild worked for Dytech Solutions worked for MAST Technology worked for VDIC working for Webster Veterinary That does not count contract work, only full time. Oh, I am 40. I started programming at 30. In that case, 9 jobs.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
sold vacuum cleaners door to door
You did that, too? I sold Rainbow vacuum cleaners. A $400 machine that to this day, I can't honestly point to any brand that does a better job of cleaning carpets. But my assigned territory was La Puente, CA, USA, which at the time was populated by Mexican illegal immigrants living on welfare. Most didn't speak English, and had 12 kids who thought that peeling paint on the baseboards was candy. They only called to get the free set of steak knives we gave away with each sales pitch. Awful experience...
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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.. since you were 18 to when you were 30 (or so far if your age < 30) The average I have heard is around 8. I was reading a book which said that people who change at least 8 jobs by the time they are 30 have more growth in career. How true is it? BTW I have changed only 3 jobs.
Three On my sixth now at 45 but this was also my fourth so...
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.. since you were 18 to when you were 30 (or so far if your age < 30) The average I have heard is around 8. I was reading a book which said that people who change at least 8 jobs by the time they are 30 have more growth in career. How true is it? BTW I have changed only 3 jobs.
This is my 5 job and still counting.. But i think i will stick around here more time as from my previous company :) Changing job is really bad for your resume, but the bright side of me is i learn some new things that i never think i would learn in my previous job.
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.. since you were 18 to when you were 30 (or so far if your age < 30) The average I have heard is around 8. I was reading a book which said that people who change at least 8 jobs by the time they are 30 have more growth in career. How true is it? BTW I have changed only 3 jobs.
I had only one change. I served eight years in the Air Force after school, then two years at a new company. From then on, changes were very quick.
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.. since you were 18 to when you were 30 (or so far if your age < 30) The average I have heard is around 8. I was reading a book which said that people who change at least 8 jobs by the time they are 30 have more growth in career. How true is it? BTW I have changed only 3 jobs.
Depends what you mean by changed jobs. I worked through a temp agency for 2 years and must have worked for 20-30 different companies in that time. Permanent jobs though I think 3 till 30
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.. since you were 18 to when you were 30 (or so far if your age < 30) The average I have heard is around 8. I was reading a book which said that people who change at least 8 jobs by the time they are 30 have more growth in career. How true is it? BTW I have changed only 3 jobs.
I've changed jobs 3 times. The current job is probably the best (technically). [Added] The first job (which I haven't counted in this list) was delivering milk, door to door in the morning. I'm glad to have worked my way out of those days. :) [/added]
It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini
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This is my 5 job and still counting.. But i think i will stick around here more time as from my previous company :) Changing job is really bad for your resume, but the bright side of me is i learn some new things that i never think i would learn in my previous job.
Viral My Site Tips & Tracks
Viral Upadhyay wrote:
Changing job is really bad for your resume
that is a myth.
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.. since you were 18 to when you were 30 (or so far if your age < 30) The average I have heard is around 8. I was reading a book which said that people who change at least 8 jobs by the time they are 30 have more growth in career. How true is it? BTW I have changed only 3 jobs.
Never, I just got this one (since december last year) so I never really changed. But then again I'm just 20 :)
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.. since you were 18 to when you were 30 (or so far if your age < 30) The average I have heard is around 8. I was reading a book which said that people who change at least 8 jobs by the time they are 30 have more growth in career. How true is it? BTW I have changed only 3 jobs.
let me think, This is my third job, although officially it's my fourth. I worked one month for a consultancy company, but I never programmed one letter for them. I wouldn't say that is true, because here you'll be considered a "job hopper" if you change that much. Besides, your diploma, skills etc are far more important then changing job once in a while. (and luck also counts, the corporate atmosphere has to be right to allow you to move) I consider myself doing fine in my career. :-)
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.. since you were 18 to when you were 30 (or so far if your age < 30) The average I have heard is around 8. I was reading a book which said that people who change at least 8 jobs by the time they are 30 have more growth in career. How true is it? BTW I have changed only 3 jobs.
Job in terms of career, I'm still on my first (I'm only 23) and I've been here 2 years now. Including other jobs, +2 to that. I worked in a pub for 5 years to help finance uni, and during the same period for a year or so I had another side "job" as a "laser games supervisor" :laugh: for 1 night a week. That was a fun job.
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I was in school at 18. 19 - Junior Technical Assistant, Dept of Electrical Engineering, Meb Uni ( temp position ) 20 - worked in the library at Melb Uni ages are fuzzy from here worked with my dad as a gardener while studying worked in a call center begging for charity sold chocolate door to door sold vacuum cleaners door to door sold dry cleaning to businesses sold coffee and tea ( Robert TImms ) sold stationery ( SPS Supply ) -- started programming in 1999 -- worked for Viewbuild worked for Dytech Solutions worked for MAST Technology worked for VDIC working for Webster Veterinary That does not count contract work, only full time. Oh, I am 40. I started programming at 30. In that case, 9 jobs.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
worked in a call center begging for charity
Oh, the horror! X| I did that to buy my wife's engagement ring - couldnt get outta there fast enough.
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I've been given the advice that I need to become either a PM or an architect. There is a tendency to believe something if you hear it enough. I enjoy developing, so I always wonder why I would have to change? To avoid learning new technology?
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Once. Been working for 5 years, and this is my second job. I am trying to change careers at my current job though. :)
Cheers, Vikram. (Proud to have finally cracked a CCC!)
Recent activities: TV series: Friends, season 10 Books: Fooled by Randomness, by Nassim Nicholas Taleb.
Carpe Diem.