How much exercise do you get and what are you going to do about It?
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Fitness and exercise discussions breed holy wars online just as much as Vista ever did here! :) I've seen many sources lately that claim long term endurance exercise is actually harmful to your long term health, they cite horrible arthritis, heart problems etc etc. However these are all amongst people that are in competition and doing much more endurance than perhaps you or I ever have on a regular basis. Anything taken to extremes always has a down side. I disagree that jogging is inherently bad for your body, it's a natural function that we've evolved to be good at and the human foot is a beautiful design for jogging and sprinting, it tends to all go to hell when people put big fat springy running shoes on that allow them to crash down on their heels sending jarring shock waves all through their body instead of on the balls of the feet where we naturally run when barefoot and for which the foot is perfectly adapted to do. I only jog to warm up anyway so I can sprint, jogging isn't really exercise to me any more. The biggest problem with talking to others about fitness is that everyone uses terms like fit for which each person has their own definition. To body builders being fit means looking big and toned (perhaps not able to really *do* anything with that body but looking good nonetheless), to a marathon runner being fit means being skinny as a rail with no body fat but the ability to run forever. I tend to think of Bruce Lee when I think of being fit, he was not particularly muscular from a body builder point of view but it was what he could *do* with his body that made him fit in my mind. I guess I like to think of what my fitness will allow me to do with my body overall. That's why the crossfit training appeals to me because it's focused on functional fitness in the firefighter or soldier sense. I know there is a *lot* of crappy information out there (and a *lot* which is geared towards the average couch potato, not people who exercise seriously so I tend to favor sites for athletes in this kind of thing) which is why if it's important to me I tend to look for the most reliable sources and then try it out myself. My own personal endurance has gone way up since I ditched the long moderate exercise and went to the high intensity interval type exercise. As well my weight loss accelerated greatly. A lot of what I've read says that to build endurance it's best to do interval training, not endurance training. Also the results both cardiovascular and mitochondrial amongst others are indist
John C wrote:
I disagree that jogging is inherently bad for your body, it's a natural function that we've evolved to be good at and the human foot is a beautiful design for jogging and sprinting
Humans were designed for Running and Sprinting. Watch a child, they don't jog. There is a distinct difference. As for the rest I am forced to somewhat agree because exercise science really does have a lot of individual differences and no one true answer. With that said however, I find it hard to believe that 15 minutes at 85% is the same as 60 minutes at 85%. Furthermore, I find it hard to believe that 15 minutes at >85% is aerobic. But I am not a scientist and have no intention of strapping anyone up to an 02 meter.
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John C wrote:
I disagree that jogging is inherently bad for your body, it's a natural function that we've evolved to be good at and the human foot is a beautiful design for jogging and sprinting
Humans were designed for Running and Sprinting. Watch a child, they don't jog. There is a distinct difference. As for the rest I am forced to somewhat agree because exercise science really does have a lot of individual differences and no one true answer. With that said however, I find it hard to believe that 15 minutes at 85% is the same as 60 minutes at 85%. Furthermore, I find it hard to believe that 15 minutes at >85% is aerobic. But I am not a scientist and have no intention of strapping anyone up to an 02 meter.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Running and Sprinting. Watch a child, they don't jog.
Hmmm... I guess I don't really know what jogging is then. Maybe I tend to run slowly for my warm up. Is jogging by definition landing on your heel or..?
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I've worn through my first pair, and I wouldn't want to run in anything else.
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how long did it take for you to get used to the feeling of running without any heel padding ?
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Running and Sprinting. Watch a child, they don't jog.
Hmmm... I guess I don't really know what jogging is then. Maybe I tend to run slowly for my warm up. Is jogging by definition landing on your heel or..?
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It is an entirely vague definition. I measure the difference in impact. When jogging I feel heavy, heavy impact (and it is a slow pace) when running I get a moderate impact and when sprinting I get no/low impact. Once you are over about 8mph you are clearly running unless you are over 7' tall. between 3 and 7 mph however there is a lot of overlap. While running hurts for me, jogging will put me on the d/l.
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It is an entirely vague definition. I measure the difference in impact. When jogging I feel heavy, heavy impact (and it is a slow pace) when running I get a moderate impact and when sprinting I get no/low impact. Once you are over about 8mph you are clearly running unless you are over 7' tall. between 3 and 7 mph however there is a lot of overlap. While running hurts for me, jogging will put me on the d/l.
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I think I lope more than jog, I don't feel any impact at all really, my body is very loose and upright and I'm landing on the balls of my feet. I'm not going very fast though, I could almost walk as fast as I jog in my warm up to sprint if I walked as fast as I possibly could. I never run or jog on any hard surfaces though, we have an excellent park nearby on the ocean and the trails are mostly through the forest which results in very soft ground from all the years of pine needles falling on it. When you say it hurts do you have bad knees?
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how long did it take for you to get used to the feeling of running without any heel padding ?
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how long did it take for you to get used to the feeling of running without any heel padding ?
It didn't take me long at all about a month, but I hadn't done a lot of running before I got them. I also rarely run longer than a mile at one stretch, since I'm mostly sprinting which I think made it easier to adapt. Wearing them as my normal every day shoes helped too. After about a year, my feet and ankles do seem more muscled and stronger. YMMV
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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I think I lope more than jog, I don't feel any impact at all really, my body is very loose and upright and I'm landing on the balls of my feet. I'm not going very fast though, I could almost walk as fast as I jog in my warm up to sprint if I walked as fast as I possibly could. I never run or jog on any hard surfaces though, we have an excellent park nearby on the ocean and the trails are mostly through the forest which results in very soft ground from all the years of pine needles falling on it. When you say it hurts do you have bad knees?
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Extremely, plus my shin splints will flair up if I run for any extended period of weeks. Discovering the incline on the treadmill has been wonderful for me because I can now get the intensity I want, whereas previously I had to swim to do so.
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Do you normally land on your heel when you run / jog?
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i do when i'm feeling tired or lazy. i know i'm much more efficient and comfortable when i can do a quick, light almost "spinning" stride, and i try to do that as much as i can, but i always lapse back to heel striking.
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i do when i'm feeling tired or lazy. i know i'm much more efficient and comfortable when i can do a quick, light almost "spinning" stride, and i try to do that as much as i can, but i always lapse back to heel striking.
Ahh, then they should be perfect for you because they provide a built in incentive to *not* land on your heel. I've seen discussions on various boards about switching to barefoot or very thin soled shoes and most people seemed to agree that it took about a month or so to get the new stride ingrained. Most agreed that it's important to not overdo it at first or you may find it painful and give it up as untenable when a more prudent course would see your muscles &c adapt.
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Extremely, plus my shin splints will flair up if I run for any extended period of weeks. Discovering the incline on the treadmill has been wonderful for me because I can now get the intensity I want, whereas previously I had to swim to do so.
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I have a bad right knee as a result of showing off on a mountain bike many years ago and when it flairs up from time to time I switch from running to our elliptical trainer which I find excellent for absolutely no impact exercise. However I wish we had some place to keep it besides the living room, the damn thing is huge and looks like some kind of medieval torture device. :)
"Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg
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Ahh, then they should be perfect for you because they provide a built in incentive to *not* land on your heel. I've seen discussions on various boards about switching to barefoot or very thin soled shoes and most people seemed to agree that it took about a month or so to get the new stride ingrained. Most agreed that it's important to not overdo it at first or you may find it painful and give it up as untenable when a more prudent course would see your muscles &c adapt.
"Creating your own blog is about as easy as creating your own urine, and you're about as likely to find someone else interested in it." -- Lore Sjöberg
John C wrote:
they provide a built in incentive to *not* land on your heel.
yeah, that's my hope. i went out today, just about a mile and a half, alternating walking and running every 100m, and... wow. it's so freakin strange. and my calves are a solid ball of cramp right now. so, it definitely takes more than a day :)
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John C wrote:
I disagree that jogging is inherently bad for your body, it's a natural function that we've evolved to be good at and the human foot is a beautiful design for jogging and sprinting
Humans were designed for Running and Sprinting. Watch a child, they don't jog. There is a distinct difference. As for the rest I am forced to somewhat agree because exercise science really does have a lot of individual differences and no one true answer. With that said however, I find it hard to believe that 15 minutes at 85% is the same as 60 minutes at 85%. Furthermore, I find it hard to believe that 15 minutes at >85% is aerobic. But I am not a scientist and have no intention of strapping anyone up to an 02 meter.
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From what little I understand about interval training is that you are supposed to exhaust your anaerobic energy so that your body is forced to use it's aerobic pathways to fuel your exercise. I'm not sure how much of that is true, but the higher intensity full body exercise has had a much better impact on my body then either anaerobic weight training or aerobic longer duration exercise. Every type of exercise has trade offs for effects, so one isn't better than others, but typically this type of exercise has the most general benefit per time spent exercising. It increases both anaerobic and aerobic endurance, but it won't produce an athlete that excels at one or the other. If you have a cross fit gym near you, they usually offer free workouts every once in a while, you might want to check one out. I've done it once and it was one of the most physically exhausting things I've ever done. However all the "regulars" there are the fittest people I've ever seen in my life, and the power output they produced was phenomenal.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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It didn't take me long at all about a month, but I hadn't done a lot of running before I got them. I also rarely run longer than a mile at one stretch, since I'm mostly sprinting which I think made it easier to adapt. Wearing them as my normal every day shoes helped too. After about a year, my feet and ankles do seem more muscled and stronger. YMMV
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
a month... well, since that's usually how long it takes for me to get up to any kind of distance at all, i guess that's OK.
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John C wrote:
they provide a built in incentive to *not* land on your heel.
yeah, that's my hope. i went out today, just about a mile and a half, alternating walking and running every 100m, and... wow. it's so freakin strange. and my calves are a solid ball of cramp right now. so, it definitely takes more than a day :)
Chris Losinger wrote:
my calves are a solid ball of cramp right now
Rolling really helps with that, if you can stand the excruciating pain for the first few times.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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I try to walk a bit.. not much.
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