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  • H hairy_hats

    ThePotty1 wrote:

    her Celeron 900 is probably going to my domestic worker.

    Your wife?

    I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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    Lost User
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    Steve_Harris wrote:

    Your wife?

    He said his Mum not his wife.

    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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      My experience of the windows OS is that it runs pretty well for 2-3 years, and then sorta slows down for no obvious reason. You can nurse it along by dumping temp files, defragmenting, and perhaps (god help us) running a registry cleaner, but really you're gonna have to format and re-install sooner rather than later. My laptop has reached this point. It's a 3 year old core 2 duo with 2G ram running XP, but boots slower than the 2000 box I've just set up for my kids, even though that's a 6 year old AMD 1600+ with 1G. A pre-emptive disclaimer, this isn't an attack on windows, I know windows, I develop for windows, mostly I like windows. I am about to try a linux dual-boot, but expect to still mostly use XP. So, any comments? Do you upgrade your hardware often enough never to notice this, or do you, like me, nurse what you have for a decade after it's paid for itself? I should probably mention my kid's old box, a Celeron 2200 with 256M ram, is going to my mom, and her Celeron 900 is probably going to my domestic worker. ;P I'd also like to know if Vista, and by extension windows 7, still suffer from this, or if it's miraculously gone away?

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      1 21 Gigawatts
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      I tend to find that my machine works absolutely fine until a newer version of Windows can be seen on the horizon - the it starts to slow up. Although this is probably just a coincidence. ... Nah, it's definitely a global conspiracy involving everyone from the President of the USA to that fella round the corner who sells newspapers... ... Ohh, sorry just been reading some of the Back Room posts. I'll stop that.

      "...great scott!" Dilbert: Aren't all meetings like this... Richard Dawkins: "What if you're wrong?"

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      • L Lost User

        Steve_Harris wrote:

        Your wife?

        He said his Mum not his wife.

        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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        hairy_hats
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        No, his Mum is getting his child's old machine: "I should probably mention my kid's old box, a Celeron 2200 with 256M ram, is going to my mom, and her Celeron 900 is probably going to my domestic worker."

        I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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        • T ThePotty1

          My experience of the windows OS is that it runs pretty well for 2-3 years, and then sorta slows down for no obvious reason. You can nurse it along by dumping temp files, defragmenting, and perhaps (god help us) running a registry cleaner, but really you're gonna have to format and re-install sooner rather than later. My laptop has reached this point. It's a 3 year old core 2 duo with 2G ram running XP, but boots slower than the 2000 box I've just set up for my kids, even though that's a 6 year old AMD 1600+ with 1G. A pre-emptive disclaimer, this isn't an attack on windows, I know windows, I develop for windows, mostly I like windows. I am about to try a linux dual-boot, but expect to still mostly use XP. So, any comments? Do you upgrade your hardware often enough never to notice this, or do you, like me, nurse what you have for a decade after it's paid for itself? I should probably mention my kid's old box, a Celeron 2200 with 256M ram, is going to my mom, and her Celeron 900 is probably going to my domestic worker. ;P I'd also like to know if Vista, and by extension windows 7, still suffer from this, or if it's miraculously gone away?

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          phannon86
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          ThePotty1 wrote:

          I'd also like to know if Vista, and by extension windows 7, still suffer from this, or if it's miraculously gone away?

          So long as there are users who fill their computer with rubbish, visit dodgy websites and click on anything that looks pretty enough, this problem will exist. The last time I had a PC at home it lasted as long as I owned it, about 5 years, on it's original install, because I looked after it.

          He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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            Maximilien wrote:

            a PC should be re-formated every 18months.

            WTF! Why?

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            Michael Schubert
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            Steve Thresher wrote:

            WTF! Why?

            Once the Computer Gremlins/Critters have invaded the PC and deposited their eggs it takes 18 months for the young to hatch. Re-formatting gets rid of them. It's like bug spray.

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            • H hairy_hats

              No, his Mum is getting his child's old machine: "I should probably mention my kid's old box, a Celeron 2200 with 256M ram, is going to my mom, and her Celeron 900 is probably going to my domestic worker."

              I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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              Mycroft Holmes
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              Lives in SA, different culture, domestics are common there (as they are in Singapore :-O )

              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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              • P phannon86

                ThePotty1 wrote:

                I'd also like to know if Vista, and by extension windows 7, still suffer from this, or if it's miraculously gone away?

                So long as there are users who fill their computer with rubbish, visit dodgy websites and click on anything that looks pretty enough, this problem will exist. The last time I had a PC at home it lasted as long as I owned it, about 5 years, on it's original install, because I looked after it.

                He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                Dave Parker
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                I try to run a lot of software in a virtual PC to keep it self contained. Still, all those windows updates alone are enough to clog up a PC pretty quick.

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                • P phannon86

                  ThePotty1 wrote:

                  I'd also like to know if Vista, and by extension windows 7, still suffer from this, or if it's miraculously gone away?

                  So long as there are users who fill their computer with rubbish, visit dodgy websites and click on anything that looks pretty enough, this problem will exist. The last time I had a PC at home it lasted as long as I owned it, about 5 years, on it's original install, because I looked after it.

                  He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                  Mycroft Holmes
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                  Phannon wrote:

                  ecause I looked after it

                  Never used the interweb (except for CP of course), never installed any games, had nothing except office on it and never installed any interesting new stuff.

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                  • T ThePotty1

                    My experience of the windows OS is that it runs pretty well for 2-3 years, and then sorta slows down for no obvious reason. You can nurse it along by dumping temp files, defragmenting, and perhaps (god help us) running a registry cleaner, but really you're gonna have to format and re-install sooner rather than later. My laptop has reached this point. It's a 3 year old core 2 duo with 2G ram running XP, but boots slower than the 2000 box I've just set up for my kids, even though that's a 6 year old AMD 1600+ with 1G. A pre-emptive disclaimer, this isn't an attack on windows, I know windows, I develop for windows, mostly I like windows. I am about to try a linux dual-boot, but expect to still mostly use XP. So, any comments? Do you upgrade your hardware often enough never to notice this, or do you, like me, nurse what you have for a decade after it's paid for itself? I should probably mention my kid's old box, a Celeron 2200 with 256M ram, is going to my mom, and her Celeron 900 is probably going to my domestic worker. ;P I'd also like to know if Vista, and by extension windows 7, still suffer from this, or if it's miraculously gone away?

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                    Keith Barrow
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                    2-3 years seems is pretty close to my experience too. I tink that the slow down is mostly due to the registry caking up with rubbish from disused and/or removed apps whose installers don't remove everything. Personally every 3-4 years I build a new machine, so far it hasn't been worth recylcing any of the components as the hardware has moved on so much in the mean time. Like you I tend to move my old machines on. You could consider using your old machine as a NAS. As a side note, I bought a cheap end-of-stock Acer Aspire one with 120GB HDD about a year ago. It can with a version of Linux called Linplus on (which was erm, restrictive, to say the least.). After a bit of research on went Fedora 10, Open office and a few development tools (all free). Given that the unit has a mighty 1.6GHz atom processor the performance was fairly good (but not fast). The other thing I've found that once I'd got a stable installation, it stayed stable and the performance has not started to degrade.

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                    • M Mycroft Holmes

                      Phannon wrote:

                      ecause I looked after it

                      Never used the interweb (except for CP of course), never installed any games, had nothing except office on it and never installed any interesting new stuff.

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      phannon86
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                      I wonder how many people are that paranoid they actually do that. In all seriousness though, in those days I had yet to discover CP :omg: and it was a gaming rig :)

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                      • P phannon86

                        I wonder how many people are that paranoid they actually do that. In all seriousness though, in those days I had yet to discover CP :omg: and it was a gaming rig :)

                        He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                        Mycroft Holmes
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                        Phannon wrote:

                        wonder how many people are that paranoid

                        Not may I suspect, most that I know have so little paranoia that they are probably bots anyway. I do like to take my beanie out and polish it occasionally.

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                        • M Michael Schubert

                          Steve Thresher wrote:

                          WTF! Why?

                          Once the Computer Gremlins/Critters have invaded the PC and deposited their eggs it takes 18 months for the young to hatch. Re-formatting gets rid of them. It's like bug spray.

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                          Steve Thresher
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                          The sad thing is that someone out there would actually believe that explanation :sigh:

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                          • M Mycroft Holmes

                            Lives in SA, different culture, domestics are common there (as they are in Singapore :-O )

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                            Steve Thresher
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                            Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                            Lives in SA, different culture

                            yeah, with no minimum wage I'm guessing!

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                              Lives in SA, different culture, domestics are common there (as they are in Singapore :-O )

                              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                              Ditto the Middle East, though I still can't get used to the idea.

                              If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                I tend to find that my machine works absolutely fine until a newer version of Windows can be seen on the horizon - the it starts to slow up. Although this is probably just a coincidence. ... Nah, it's definitely a global conspiracy involving everyone from the President of the USA to that fella round the corner who sells newspapers... ... Ohh, sorry just been reading some of the Back Room posts. I'll stop that.

                                "...great scott!" Dilbert: Aren't all meetings like this... Richard Dawkins: "What if you're wrong?"

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                                1.21 Gigawatts wrote:

                                Nah, it's definitely a global conspiracy involving everyone from the President of the USA to that fella round the corner who sells newspapers...

                                channelling CSS?

                                I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly I don't know what all the fuss is about with America getting it's first black president. Zimbabwe's had one for years and he's sh*t. - Percy Drake , Shrewsbury Driven to the arms of Heineken by the wife

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                                • T ThePotty1

                                  My experience of the windows OS is that it runs pretty well for 2-3 years, and then sorta slows down for no obvious reason. You can nurse it along by dumping temp files, defragmenting, and perhaps (god help us) running a registry cleaner, but really you're gonna have to format and re-install sooner rather than later. My laptop has reached this point. It's a 3 year old core 2 duo with 2G ram running XP, but boots slower than the 2000 box I've just set up for my kids, even though that's a 6 year old AMD 1600+ with 1G. A pre-emptive disclaimer, this isn't an attack on windows, I know windows, I develop for windows, mostly I like windows. I am about to try a linux dual-boot, but expect to still mostly use XP. So, any comments? Do you upgrade your hardware often enough never to notice this, or do you, like me, nurse what you have for a decade after it's paid for itself? I should probably mention my kid's old box, a Celeron 2200 with 256M ram, is going to my mom, and her Celeron 900 is probably going to my domestic worker. ;P I'd also like to know if Vista, and by extension windows 7, still suffer from this, or if it's miraculously gone away?

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                                  Rob Graham
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                                  I't not the OS's fault, at least for the most part. Next time you get ready to reinstall because your system is slow, run msconfig and make a record of the programs in the startup tab. Do the same after a reinstall; the difference will startle you. Too many software suppliers install their own "tray notification" and/or"autoupdater" aps that run all the time, stealing a few clock cycles. After a while the sum total is a noticeable burden on the stuff you want to use. This is compounded by disk and registry fragmentation, the result of years of updates, installs and uninstalls.

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                                    Ditto the Middle East, though I still can't get used to the idea.

                                    If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                    Henry Minute
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                                    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                    Ditto the Middle East, though I still can't get used to the idea.

                                    Never mind Mustafa, you'll get a better job soon, I'm sure! :-D

                                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                                    • T ThePotty1

                                      My experience of the windows OS is that it runs pretty well for 2-3 years, and then sorta slows down for no obvious reason. You can nurse it along by dumping temp files, defragmenting, and perhaps (god help us) running a registry cleaner, but really you're gonna have to format and re-install sooner rather than later. My laptop has reached this point. It's a 3 year old core 2 duo with 2G ram running XP, but boots slower than the 2000 box I've just set up for my kids, even though that's a 6 year old AMD 1600+ with 1G. A pre-emptive disclaimer, this isn't an attack on windows, I know windows, I develop for windows, mostly I like windows. I am about to try a linux dual-boot, but expect to still mostly use XP. So, any comments? Do you upgrade your hardware often enough never to notice this, or do you, like me, nurse what you have for a decade after it's paid for itself? I should probably mention my kid's old box, a Celeron 2200 with 256M ram, is going to my mom, and her Celeron 900 is probably going to my domestic worker. ;P I'd also like to know if Vista, and by extension windows 7, still suffer from this, or if it's miraculously gone away?

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                                      David Crow
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                                      ThePotty1 wrote:

                                      My experience of the windows OS is that it runs pretty well for 2-3 years, and then sorta slows down for no obvious reason.

                                      The reason is always obvious: the Internet. When stuff is blindly downloaded and installed, it stands to reason that Windows will soon start to complain.

                                      "Old age is like a bank account. You withdraw later in life what you have deposited along the way." - Unknown

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                                      • R Rob Graham

                                        I't not the OS's fault, at least for the most part. Next time you get ready to reinstall because your system is slow, run msconfig and make a record of the programs in the startup tab. Do the same after a reinstall; the difference will startle you. Too many software suppliers install their own "tray notification" and/or"autoupdater" aps that run all the time, stealing a few clock cycles. After a while the sum total is a noticeable burden on the stuff you want to use. This is compounded by disk and registry fragmentation, the result of years of updates, installs and uninstalls.

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                                        ThePotty1
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                                        I watch my startup apps like a hawk. I'm probably a bit gung-ho stopping services too, but generally everything seems to cope.

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                                        • M Michael Schubert

                                          Steve Thresher wrote:

                                          WTF! Why?

                                          Once the Computer Gremlins/Critters have invaded the PC and deposited their eggs it takes 18 months for the young to hatch. Re-formatting gets rid of them. It's like bug spray.

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                                          Wjousts
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                                          Nonsense, it's bit rot. Storing your computer in a dark, dry place can help a little.

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