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  • P phannon86

    I wonder how many people are that paranoid they actually do that. In all seriousness though, in those days I had yet to discover CP :omg: and it was a gaming rig :)

    He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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    Mycroft Holmes
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    Phannon wrote:

    wonder how many people are that paranoid

    Not may I suspect, most that I know have so little paranoia that they are probably bots anyway. I do like to take my beanie out and polish it occasionally.

    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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    • M Michael Schubert

      Steve Thresher wrote:

      WTF! Why?

      Once the Computer Gremlins/Critters have invaded the PC and deposited their eggs it takes 18 months for the young to hatch. Re-formatting gets rid of them. It's like bug spray.

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      Steve Thresher
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      The sad thing is that someone out there would actually believe that explanation :sigh:

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      • M Mycroft Holmes

        Lives in SA, different culture, domestics are common there (as they are in Singapore :-O )

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        Steve Thresher
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        Mycroft Holmes wrote:

        Lives in SA, different culture

        yeah, with no minimum wage I'm guessing!

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        • M Mycroft Holmes

          Lives in SA, different culture, domestics are common there (as they are in Singapore :-O )

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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          Ditto the Middle East, though I still can't get used to the idea.

          If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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          • 1 1 21 Gigawatts

            I tend to find that my machine works absolutely fine until a newer version of Windows can be seen on the horizon - the it starts to slow up. Although this is probably just a coincidence. ... Nah, it's definitely a global conspiracy involving everyone from the President of the USA to that fella round the corner who sells newspapers... ... Ohh, sorry just been reading some of the Back Room posts. I'll stop that.

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            Andy_L_J
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            1.21 Gigawatts wrote:

            Nah, it's definitely a global conspiracy involving everyone from the President of the USA to that fella round the corner who sells newspapers...

            channelling CSS?

            I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly I don't know what all the fuss is about with America getting it's first black president. Zimbabwe's had one for years and he's sh*t. - Percy Drake , Shrewsbury Driven to the arms of Heineken by the wife

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            • T ThePotty1

              My experience of the windows OS is that it runs pretty well for 2-3 years, and then sorta slows down for no obvious reason. You can nurse it along by dumping temp files, defragmenting, and perhaps (god help us) running a registry cleaner, but really you're gonna have to format and re-install sooner rather than later. My laptop has reached this point. It's a 3 year old core 2 duo with 2G ram running XP, but boots slower than the 2000 box I've just set up for my kids, even though that's a 6 year old AMD 1600+ with 1G. A pre-emptive disclaimer, this isn't an attack on windows, I know windows, I develop for windows, mostly I like windows. I am about to try a linux dual-boot, but expect to still mostly use XP. So, any comments? Do you upgrade your hardware often enough never to notice this, or do you, like me, nurse what you have for a decade after it's paid for itself? I should probably mention my kid's old box, a Celeron 2200 with 256M ram, is going to my mom, and her Celeron 900 is probably going to my domestic worker. ;P I'd also like to know if Vista, and by extension windows 7, still suffer from this, or if it's miraculously gone away?

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              Rob Graham
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              I't not the OS's fault, at least for the most part. Next time you get ready to reinstall because your system is slow, run msconfig and make a record of the programs in the startup tab. Do the same after a reinstall; the difference will startle you. Too many software suppliers install their own "tray notification" and/or"autoupdater" aps that run all the time, stealing a few clock cycles. After a while the sum total is a noticeable burden on the stuff you want to use. This is compounded by disk and registry fragmentation, the result of years of updates, installs and uninstalls.

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              • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                Ditto the Middle East, though I still can't get used to the idea.

                If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                Henry Minute
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                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                Ditto the Middle East, though I still can't get used to the idea.

                Never mind Mustafa, you'll get a better job soon, I'm sure! :-D

                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                • T ThePotty1

                  My experience of the windows OS is that it runs pretty well for 2-3 years, and then sorta slows down for no obvious reason. You can nurse it along by dumping temp files, defragmenting, and perhaps (god help us) running a registry cleaner, but really you're gonna have to format and re-install sooner rather than later. My laptop has reached this point. It's a 3 year old core 2 duo with 2G ram running XP, but boots slower than the 2000 box I've just set up for my kids, even though that's a 6 year old AMD 1600+ with 1G. A pre-emptive disclaimer, this isn't an attack on windows, I know windows, I develop for windows, mostly I like windows. I am about to try a linux dual-boot, but expect to still mostly use XP. So, any comments? Do you upgrade your hardware often enough never to notice this, or do you, like me, nurse what you have for a decade after it's paid for itself? I should probably mention my kid's old box, a Celeron 2200 with 256M ram, is going to my mom, and her Celeron 900 is probably going to my domestic worker. ;P I'd also like to know if Vista, and by extension windows 7, still suffer from this, or if it's miraculously gone away?

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                  ThePotty1 wrote:

                  My experience of the windows OS is that it runs pretty well for 2-3 years, and then sorta slows down for no obvious reason.

                  The reason is always obvious: the Internet. When stuff is blindly downloaded and installed, it stands to reason that Windows will soon start to complain.

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                  • R Rob Graham

                    I't not the OS's fault, at least for the most part. Next time you get ready to reinstall because your system is slow, run msconfig and make a record of the programs in the startup tab. Do the same after a reinstall; the difference will startle you. Too many software suppliers install their own "tray notification" and/or"autoupdater" aps that run all the time, stealing a few clock cycles. After a while the sum total is a noticeable burden on the stuff you want to use. This is compounded by disk and registry fragmentation, the result of years of updates, installs and uninstalls.

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                    ThePotty1
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                    I watch my startup apps like a hawk. I'm probably a bit gung-ho stopping services too, but generally everything seems to cope.

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                    • M Michael Schubert

                      Steve Thresher wrote:

                      WTF! Why?

                      Once the Computer Gremlins/Critters have invaded the PC and deposited their eggs it takes 18 months for the young to hatch. Re-formatting gets rid of them. It's like bug spray.

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                      Wjousts
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                      Nonsense, it's bit rot. Storing your computer in a dark, dry place can help a little.

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                      • M Michael Schubert

                        Steve Thresher wrote:

                        WTF! Why?

                        Once the Computer Gremlins/Critters have invaded the PC and deposited their eggs it takes 18 months for the young to hatch. Re-formatting gets rid of them. It's like bug spray.

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                        ThePotty1
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                        Makes sense to me, I've noticed that giving my work server a fair bash on the side when it plays up seems to stun the gremlins for a bit, and also makes me feel a whole lot better. Then I go and make tea, and by the time I get back we've both got over our respective issues, and I've regained feeling in my hand :rolleyes:

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                        • T ThePotty1

                          I watch my startup apps like a hawk. I'm probably a bit gung-ho stopping services too, but generally everything seems to cope.

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                          Dan Neely
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                          It would be nice if MS offered a service setting between on startup and when needed for services that are likely to be used at some point during the session but aren't needed immediately that would have them be loaded when the system was otherwise idling.

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                          • H Henry Minute

                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                            Ditto the Middle East, though I still can't get used to the idea.

                            Never mind Mustafa, you'll get a better job soon, I'm sure! :-D

                            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                            Yes. My hopes are high. That's one of the reasons I'm pursuing a PhD in Home Studies Computer Science!

                            If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                              It would be nice if MS offered a service setting between on startup and when needed for services that are likely to be used at some point during the session but aren't needed immediately that would have them be loaded when the system was otherwise idling.

                              The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                              S Senthil Kumar
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                              Windows Vista has delayed auto-start services[^].

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                                My experience of the windows OS is that it runs pretty well for 2-3 years, and then sorta slows down for no obvious reason. You can nurse it along by dumping temp files, defragmenting, and perhaps (god help us) running a registry cleaner, but really you're gonna have to format and re-install sooner rather than later. My laptop has reached this point. It's a 3 year old core 2 duo with 2G ram running XP, but boots slower than the 2000 box I've just set up for my kids, even though that's a 6 year old AMD 1600+ with 1G. A pre-emptive disclaimer, this isn't an attack on windows, I know windows, I develop for windows, mostly I like windows. I am about to try a linux dual-boot, but expect to still mostly use XP. So, any comments? Do you upgrade your hardware often enough never to notice this, or do you, like me, nurse what you have for a decade after it's paid for itself? I should probably mention my kid's old box, a Celeron 2200 with 256M ram, is going to my mom, and her Celeron 900 is probably going to my domestic worker. ;P I'd also like to know if Vista, and by extension windows 7, still suffer from this, or if it's miraculously gone away?

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                                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                I saw this phenomenon on some machines, but not on others. My old home machine ran just fine for 5 years until the hardware died and I did not notice any slowdowns. On the other hand, my work laptop started slowing down after less than a year, so I installed Win7 and it runs fine now. At home I try to watch carefully what I install. I *never* let any program install Java runtime, and before Vista came out I had the same rule for .NET runtime (sorry... :) ). Also, I review the running processes from time to time to make sure there are not too many "parasite" ones.

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                                • M Mycroft Holmes

                                  Lives in SA, different culture, domestics are common there (as they are in Singapore :-O )

                                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                  ThePotty1
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                                  Well there is a minimum wage, but it's not a whole lot, and unemployment is so high that lots of people don't get even that. I personally employ 2 domestics and a driver 5 days a week, and a gardener/driver/painter/etc over the weekend.

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                                  • S S Senthil Kumar

                                    Windows Vista has delayed auto-start services[^].

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                                    Dan Neely
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                                    Is there a way to set that flag as a user/administrator? That writeup appeared to be focused on the service developer only.

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                                    • D Dan Neely

                                      Is there a way to set that flag as a user/administrator? That writeup appeared to be focused on the service developer only.

                                      The latest nation. Procrastination.

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                                      On my laptop running Win 7, the Service Properties dialog has a "Automatic (Delayed Start)" option, in addition to the usual Disabled, Manual and Automatic options.

                                      Regards Senthil _____________________________ My Home Page |My Blog | My Articles | My Flickr | WinMacro

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                                        On my laptop running Win 7, the Service Properties dialog has a "Automatic (Delayed Start)" option, in addition to the usual Disabled, Manual and Automatic options.

                                        Regards Senthil _____________________________ My Home Page |My Blog | My Articles | My Flickr | WinMacro

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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        hmmm, is that new or'd I manage to miss in during all the time I played with vista...

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                                        • S Steve Thresher

                                          Maximilien wrote:

                                          a PC should be re-formated every 18months.

                                          WTF! Why?

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                                          Member 1709723
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                                          while small, the influence of the earth's magnetic field does have a degrading effect on the bit quality as they are stored on the magnetically charged tapes inside your hard drive(s) this was the cause of the early systems crashing, back in the early 90s, but with the advent of Pentium class machines they have been able to die in (on cpu core die) a fix. However, the effect is still felt - it being additive, about 18 months later you start feeling the slugishness, hence the recommendation to reformat at that time. an interesting thing to note, is that if powerful solar events take place it might shorten the 18 months timeframe don't believe me? check out a history of solar flares, for instance, and match that with your pc acting up around that time frame.. while not as significant, other things could have an effect: installing/uninstalling sw and registry not being cleared correctly root kits/canals excessive pr0n viewage from questionable sites and of course pebkac

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