Windows performance
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Steve Thresher wrote:
WTF! Why?
Once the Computer Gremlins/Critters have invaded the PC and deposited their eggs it takes 18 months for the young to hatch. Re-formatting gets rid of them. It's like bug spray.
The sad thing is that someone out there would actually believe that explanation :sigh:
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Lives in SA, different culture, domestics are common there (as they are in Singapore :-O )
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
Lives in SA, different culture
yeah, with no minimum wage I'm guessing!
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Lives in SA, different culture, domestics are common there (as they are in Singapore :-O )
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Ditto the Middle East, though I still can't get used to the idea.
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I tend to find that my machine works absolutely fine until a newer version of Windows can be seen on the horizon - the it starts to slow up. Although this is probably just a coincidence. ... Nah, it's definitely a global conspiracy involving everyone from the President of the USA to that fella round the corner who sells newspapers... ... Ohh, sorry just been reading some of the Back Room posts. I'll stop that.
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1.21 Gigawatts wrote:
Nah, it's definitely a global conspiracy involving everyone from the President of the USA to that fella round the corner who sells newspapers...
channelling CSS?
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My experience of the windows OS is that it runs pretty well for 2-3 years, and then sorta slows down for no obvious reason. You can nurse it along by dumping temp files, defragmenting, and perhaps (god help us) running a registry cleaner, but really you're gonna have to format and re-install sooner rather than later. My laptop has reached this point. It's a 3 year old core 2 duo with 2G ram running XP, but boots slower than the 2000 box I've just set up for my kids, even though that's a 6 year old AMD 1600+ with 1G. A pre-emptive disclaimer, this isn't an attack on windows, I know windows, I develop for windows, mostly I like windows. I am about to try a linux dual-boot, but expect to still mostly use XP. So, any comments? Do you upgrade your hardware often enough never to notice this, or do you, like me, nurse what you have for a decade after it's paid for itself? I should probably mention my kid's old box, a Celeron 2200 with 256M ram, is going to my mom, and her Celeron 900 is probably going to my domestic worker. ;P I'd also like to know if Vista, and by extension windows 7, still suffer from this, or if it's miraculously gone away?
I't not the OS's fault, at least for the most part. Next time you get ready to reinstall because your system is slow, run msconfig and make a record of the programs in the startup tab. Do the same after a reinstall; the difference will startle you. Too many software suppliers install their own "tray notification" and/or"autoupdater" aps that run all the time, stealing a few clock cycles. After a while the sum total is a noticeable burden on the stuff you want to use. This is compounded by disk and registry fragmentation, the result of years of updates, installs and uninstalls.
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Ditto the Middle East, though I still can't get used to the idea.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Ditto the Middle East, though I still can't get used to the idea.
Never mind Mustafa, you'll get a better job soon, I'm sure! :-D
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My experience of the windows OS is that it runs pretty well for 2-3 years, and then sorta slows down for no obvious reason. You can nurse it along by dumping temp files, defragmenting, and perhaps (god help us) running a registry cleaner, but really you're gonna have to format and re-install sooner rather than later. My laptop has reached this point. It's a 3 year old core 2 duo with 2G ram running XP, but boots slower than the 2000 box I've just set up for my kids, even though that's a 6 year old AMD 1600+ with 1G. A pre-emptive disclaimer, this isn't an attack on windows, I know windows, I develop for windows, mostly I like windows. I am about to try a linux dual-boot, but expect to still mostly use XP. So, any comments? Do you upgrade your hardware often enough never to notice this, or do you, like me, nurse what you have for a decade after it's paid for itself? I should probably mention my kid's old box, a Celeron 2200 with 256M ram, is going to my mom, and her Celeron 900 is probably going to my domestic worker. ;P I'd also like to know if Vista, and by extension windows 7, still suffer from this, or if it's miraculously gone away?
ThePotty1 wrote:
My experience of the windows OS is that it runs pretty well for 2-3 years, and then sorta slows down for no obvious reason.
The reason is always obvious: the Internet. When stuff is blindly downloaded and installed, it stands to reason that Windows will soon start to complain.
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I't not the OS's fault, at least for the most part. Next time you get ready to reinstall because your system is slow, run msconfig and make a record of the programs in the startup tab. Do the same after a reinstall; the difference will startle you. Too many software suppliers install their own "tray notification" and/or"autoupdater" aps that run all the time, stealing a few clock cycles. After a while the sum total is a noticeable burden on the stuff you want to use. This is compounded by disk and registry fragmentation, the result of years of updates, installs and uninstalls.
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Steve Thresher wrote:
WTF! Why?
Once the Computer Gremlins/Critters have invaded the PC and deposited their eggs it takes 18 months for the young to hatch. Re-formatting gets rid of them. It's like bug spray.
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Steve Thresher wrote:
WTF! Why?
Once the Computer Gremlins/Critters have invaded the PC and deposited their eggs it takes 18 months for the young to hatch. Re-formatting gets rid of them. It's like bug spray.
Makes sense to me, I've noticed that giving my work server a fair bash on the side when it plays up seems to stun the gremlins for a bit, and also makes me feel a whole lot better. Then I go and make tea, and by the time I get back we've both got over our respective issues, and I've regained feeling in my hand :rolleyes:
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I watch my startup apps like a hawk. I'm probably a bit gung-ho stopping services too, but generally everything seems to cope.
It would be nice if MS offered a service setting between on startup and when needed for services that are likely to be used at some point during the session but aren't needed immediately that would have them be loaded when the system was otherwise idling.
The latest nation. Procrastination.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Ditto the Middle East, though I still can't get used to the idea.
Never mind Mustafa, you'll get a better job soon, I'm sure! :-D
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Yes. My hopes are high. That's one of the reasons I'm pursuing a PhD in Home Studies Computer Science!
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It would be nice if MS offered a service setting between on startup and when needed for services that are likely to be used at some point during the session but aren't needed immediately that would have them be loaded when the system was otherwise idling.
The latest nation. Procrastination.
Windows Vista has delayed auto-start services[^].
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My experience of the windows OS is that it runs pretty well for 2-3 years, and then sorta slows down for no obvious reason. You can nurse it along by dumping temp files, defragmenting, and perhaps (god help us) running a registry cleaner, but really you're gonna have to format and re-install sooner rather than later. My laptop has reached this point. It's a 3 year old core 2 duo with 2G ram running XP, but boots slower than the 2000 box I've just set up for my kids, even though that's a 6 year old AMD 1600+ with 1G. A pre-emptive disclaimer, this isn't an attack on windows, I know windows, I develop for windows, mostly I like windows. I am about to try a linux dual-boot, but expect to still mostly use XP. So, any comments? Do you upgrade your hardware often enough never to notice this, or do you, like me, nurse what you have for a decade after it's paid for itself? I should probably mention my kid's old box, a Celeron 2200 with 256M ram, is going to my mom, and her Celeron 900 is probably going to my domestic worker. ;P I'd also like to know if Vista, and by extension windows 7, still suffer from this, or if it's miraculously gone away?
I saw this phenomenon on some machines, but not on others. My old home machine ran just fine for 5 years until the hardware died and I did not notice any slowdowns. On the other hand, my work laptop started slowing down after less than a year, so I installed Win7 and it runs fine now. At home I try to watch carefully what I install. I *never* let any program install Java runtime, and before Vista came out I had the same rule for .NET runtime (sorry... :) ). Also, I review the running processes from time to time to make sure there are not too many "parasite" ones.
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Lives in SA, different culture, domestics are common there (as they are in Singapore :-O )
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Windows Vista has delayed auto-start services[^].
Regards Senthil _____________________________ My Home Page |My Blog | My Articles | My Flickr | WinMacro
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Is there a way to set that flag as a user/administrator? That writeup appeared to be focused on the service developer only.
The latest nation. Procrastination.
On my laptop running Win 7, the Service Properties dialog has a "Automatic (Delayed Start)" option, in addition to the usual Disabled, Manual and Automatic options.
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On my laptop running Win 7, the Service Properties dialog has a "Automatic (Delayed Start)" option, in addition to the usual Disabled, Manual and Automatic options.
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Maximilien wrote:
a PC should be re-formated every 18months.
WTF! Why?
while small, the influence of the earth's magnetic field does have a degrading effect on the bit quality as they are stored on the magnetically charged tapes inside your hard drive(s) this was the cause of the early systems crashing, back in the early 90s, but with the advent of Pentium class machines they have been able to die in (on cpu core die) a fix. However, the effect is still felt - it being additive, about 18 months later you start feeling the slugishness, hence the recommendation to reformat at that time. an interesting thing to note, is that if powerful solar events take place it might shorten the 18 months timeframe don't believe me? check out a history of solar flares, for instance, and match that with your pc acting up around that time frame.. while not as significant, other things could have an effect: installing/uninstalling sw and registry not being cleared correctly root kits/canals excessive pr0n viewage from questionable sites and of course pebkac
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My experience of the windows OS is that it runs pretty well for 2-3 years, and then sorta slows down for no obvious reason. You can nurse it along by dumping temp files, defragmenting, and perhaps (god help us) running a registry cleaner, but really you're gonna have to format and re-install sooner rather than later. My laptop has reached this point. It's a 3 year old core 2 duo with 2G ram running XP, but boots slower than the 2000 box I've just set up for my kids, even though that's a 6 year old AMD 1600+ with 1G. A pre-emptive disclaimer, this isn't an attack on windows, I know windows, I develop for windows, mostly I like windows. I am about to try a linux dual-boot, but expect to still mostly use XP. So, any comments? Do you upgrade your hardware often enough never to notice this, or do you, like me, nurse what you have for a decade after it's paid for itself? I should probably mention my kid's old box, a Celeron 2200 with 256M ram, is going to my mom, and her Celeron 900 is probably going to my domestic worker. ;P I'd also like to know if Vista, and by extension windows 7, still suffer from this, or if it's miraculously gone away?
ThePotty1 wrote:
Do you upgrade your hardware often enough never to notice this
Bit of both, I tend to buy stuff keeping in mind expansion etc. E.g. I stuck with AMD processors so that when AMD (well they now have) released the Quad cores etc they are backwards compatible with the AM2+ sockets (at least for a short while). Even though I haven't upgraded the processor yet. System has been flying along for a while now but it was a reasonably specified up system originally (about 3.5 years ago). I just keep adding to it rather than replacing it. The two biggest differences I noticed were when I added an additional 4GB of RAM (£50 at the time) and then later when I got one of these babies[^]. Seriously if you're computer has a SATA-II drive then get one of them, they're dirt cheap for the capacity, well they're dirt cheap anyway and fast. I seem to remember reading a review somewhere that for quite a few things they were almost as fast at the Raptors despite being (in some cases >10x the size and half the price). If you got the raiding right they would blitz Raptors in almost all fields. With regards to Vista mine was running quite smoothly but recently because I hardly boot to it (work has been on Linux recently and got no real need for anything other than a VM of Windows) there's a multitude of things that kick in when I try and start it up. Windows Defender always wants to scan the hard-drive, so does Avast. There's usually some Windows Updates etc and if I forget to pay attention the PC reboots and then goes back into Linux and thus have to reboot again to switch back. Incidentally I have never, and especially now, dual boot on the same hard-drive. At the moment the configuration is such that I've got:
- 120GB - openSUSE
- 500GB - Vista x64 Ultimate
- 1TB - Data
- 500GB - Backups / CD/DVD images
The 120GB openSUSE is due to be replaced with a 1TB Gentoo (excessive but I like those Samsung's so much I got another couple, one's probably not going to be for me though). Having things running on different hard-drives helps out as well, for example running VMs I tend to run them off another hard-drive than the OS. Ha